Hi Donna thanks for the work I think that I'm going to have to go and bash some of the parish registers when the time allows. My earliest proven relative is Robert Loveless born 1810 in Bressingham I suspect that William Loveless of Bressingham born about 1776 is his Dad but I need now to find the birth record, if it exists to prove it. Thanks again for your help. By the way has anyone drawn up a detailed family tree of the Tolpuddle Loveless'. maybe this would be a good point at which to start your suggested data base on the Loveless clan. According to Joyce Marlow's book on the Martyrs the family tree of descendants of James Brine has been worked out also she comments that there are many descendants of John Lovelesses (he was the oldest brother of James and George) children in Ohio as well as I imagine the descendants of George in Canada. When did your Loveless family emigrate as there are references to George making contact with a relative in Canada before he emigrated. I hope I'm right in thinking that you are in Canada? Best wishes David