Hi David William Algar Loveless is in the St Catherine's house register as being born in Dec qtr 1838 in Dover Kent, Vol 5 Pge 109. There seems to have been two sons name William Algar and the first has died. Also in the register I found a death for William Lovelass Dec qtr 1842 at Depwade. Vol 13 Page 19. 1851 census for Norfolk. Diss Depwade, Norfolk 1851. Robert head married 41 male Journeyman Cabinet Maker. born Bressingham NFK. Jane wife married 42 female born Wortham SUF Robert son 14 male Apprentice born Dover Kent Jane daughter 7 female Scholar born Diss NFK John son 9 male Scholar born Diss NFK Louis daughter 5 female Scholar born Diss NFK William son 3 male born Diss NFK Harriet niece 12 female Scholar born Pulham NFK. The address is Parsons Entry. Census place: Diss Depwade, Norfolk. PRO Ref HO/107?1821 Folio: 407 Page: 28 FHL Film 0207474. On the 1988 IGI for Kent there is the marriage of Robert Loveless to Jane Alger on 17 Aug 1834 at Dover St Mary the Virgin. Right under it is the christening of Robert Alger Loveless s/o Robert Loveless and Jane Alger Christened 12 Feb 1837 at Dover Stargate Street Formerly in St Marys Queen Elizabeth Square. There is an interesting entry in the 1851 census for Norfolk of a William Loveless head married 75 male Parish Clerk. This fellow in too old for your William born 1848 but it could be his grandfather if your family story is correct. Anyway this is the entry William head mar 75 male Parish Clerk born Bressingham NFK Maria wife mar 60 female born Stuston SUF Emily daughter Unmarried female 20 born Bressinghan NFK William grandson 6 months male born Kenninghall NFK. Address- Algate Way, Guiltcross. Census Place: Blessingham Guiltcross, Norfolk. PRO Ref: HO/107/1822 Folio:186 Page 26 FHL Film :0207476. Now at the same address, same file numbers as William age 75 is John head 48 male Blacksmith Master Employ 1 man. Born Bressingham NFK. Phoebe wife mar 40 female born Barham NRK. William son 18 male Blacksmith Journeyman born Bressingham NFK. Peter son 3 male born Bressingham NFK. Luke son 10 mths male born Bressingham NFK. Maria daughter 7 female born Bressingham NFK. I will send this lot off and continue with the 1881 census where members of teh family show up again, if you don't get it tonight or today depending on where you are David it means I piked out and fell asleep on my keyboard. Its 12.30am here in Aussie land and I badly need shut eye. I will do a little more tonight and see how I go. Anything you can tell me about your family will help me, I had the wrong wife for your William born 1848 so need to have another hunt. Anyway goodnight all Night All! Irene Oh P.S. Where are you David? If you live in Canada it will be interesting. At 14:18 10/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Irene thanks for your information I am not that far on in my research >yet! We found the information about William Alger Loveless in his obituary >in the Annual Monitor of the Religious Society of Friends for 1899 He >Married Janet Pleasance Brame. As for his Father Robert Loveless he is >mentioned in William's obituary as having a wife called Jane. that really >is the limit of my knowledge if you can point me in the direction of the >relevant census and other records that would be very helpful. > >David > >