David this is what I have on John Loveless. CONVICT GANGS IN 1821. A Preliminary Analysis of an 1821 Victualling List. NAME HOW EMPLOYED RATION ===================================================== John Loveless Boatman 1½ ===================================================== John was one of 82 boatmen in the colony in 1821. He may have had some experience in this type of work before sentencing. The only other John I have entering Australia is LOVELACE, John - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7 years Arrived in second fleet I am trying to find out if they are one in the same. Irene At 21:58 20/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Irene thanks for the question I came across his name by accident whilst >doing a geneal search for the Loveless name on a list victualling list put >out by an OZ research establishment and he didn't fit with any bits of tthe >Loeles clan i'd heard of. so my interest is curiosity! David >-----Original Message----- >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: 19 May 1999 10:10 >Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Loveless Convicts? > > >>Hi David >>John Loveless 1821 of Sydney Australia is known to me David. He's on my >>home turf. >>Can I be cheeky and ask what your interest is in him? >>Sorry for butting in Donna. >>Irene >> >> >> >>At 14:25 18/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >>>Hi Donna. >>> >>>I have just come across a reference to a John Loveless on Sidney >(Australia) >>>victualling list of 1821 he may have been a labourer or may have been a >>>convict. Is he known to anybody. >>> >>>David >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >