Hi Donna, Irene has worked her magic on my line and has got me back to Loveless ancestors on the border of Dorset and Devon. I still feel there is a connection to the Martyrs extended family due to talk from my great aunt and the fact that they moved from Dorset area in the 1830s and changed their name temporarily to Lovelace - I am 'told'! The family lived in Axmouth and I know they had relations in Bridport who worked for the Bridport Ropemakers - there are some old photos in my aunt's possession. Knowing that you have traced back your ancestors through the Martyrs extended family I wonder whether you might have any links with a HENRY!? Anyway I have - Henry Loveless (later changed to Lovelace, changed again to Loveless) m. Sally Clark, 5.8.1829 - Axmouth, Devon daughters - Eliza 12.9.1830 Axmouth, Devon Sarah Ann 9.1.1833 Dover, Kent (later changed to Lovelace??) William Henry Clark 24.1.1836 (Loveless) Folkestone, Kent Henry was my g.g.g. grandfather. Hopefully I will find out more from the LDS records. A long shot but thanks Donna - how is the 'managing' going? Keep up the good work. Carol Park