Martin In my records and Irenes John older brother of martyrs married a Way.I actually have written down from 10 years ago when I went to Dorchester it looked as if it was Way or May to me. I will look back at your email soon Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [TOL] Captain Loveless > Martin - sorry I have no Mays in my family tree. Does anybody else have > anything on the MAY family. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:55 PM > Subject: [TOL] Captain Loveless > > > > Does anyone know who Captain LOVELESS was? > > > > The Sussex Weekly Advertiser, Monday, September 18th, 1809 has an > > alphabetical list under Game Duty, of individuals who obtained licenses > > for killing of Game in Sussex, September 16th 1809, including Loveless, > > Captain, of Brighton, Sussex. Also included are May, Thomas jun. and > > May, Richard, both of Billingshurst, Sussex. These entries may be > > relevant to the later marriage of William Henry LOVELESS to Mary Jane > > MAY in Portsea, Hampshire, in 1875 DecQtr, as William was in the Royal > > Navy, b. 1854, Portsea (age 27 in 1881 Census.) Mary Jane MAY was a > > daughter of William MAY and Mary Ann CLEMENTS, and William MAY was born > > in 1822 in Brighton, Sussex to Celia MAY, widow of Dean MAY (who died in > > 1817). William claimed Dean as his father in 1854 when he married Mary > > Ann. It is not clear who was his actual father! There may have been > > some longtime connection, therefore, between the LOVELESS and MAY > > families in the Brighton area. > > > > My conjecture is that Capt. Loveless could have been William Henry's > > father or grandfather, or a great-uncle, perhaps. I don't even have a > > first name, though I suspect that W.H's father and grandfather were also > > named William Henry, based on a son William Henry LOVELESS and a > > possible grandson named William Henry V LOVELESS. The MAY family > > definitely was in Brighton for a good portion of the 18th century, and > > Thomas could have been a son of Richard, though what connection if any > > Richard has to Dean, I do not know. There is a Thomas MAY b. 1744, s/o > > James MAY and Mary DEAN, but I do not have any Richard MAYs in the lines > > so far researched. Thomas's brothers John and Edward were married, but > > I don't have any children for John and no Richard among Edward's > > children (there is a seven year gap between the second and third.) Two > > other brothers James and William, may have married but I have no > > details, so there are plenty of possibilities for a Richard in the mid > > 1700's and a son Thomas in the late 1700's. > > > > Any information on either of these names would be helpful! I still have > > no known parents for William Henry LOVELESS and no known connections > > between him and any Dorset LOVELESS family. It is VERY frustrating not > > to be able to find him or his ancestry. (No birth or baptism record > > found in Portsea, either, only the 1881 census to go on!) Doesn't > > anyone have any connections to Hampshire or Sussex? > > > > Regards > > Martin Willcocks > > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

Martin - if it is Way vice May then myself, Jacki and Jo all have Ways in our family tree. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley WICKHAM" <lesley@maultway.fsnet.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [TOL] Captain Loveless > Martin > In my records and Irenes John older brother of martyrs married a Way.I > actually have written down from 10 years ago when I went to Dorchester it > looked as if it was Way or May to me. > I will look back at your email soon > > Lesley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [TOL] Captain Loveless > > > > Martin - sorry I have no Mays in my family tree. Does anybody else have > > anything on the MAY family. > > > > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> > > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:55 PM > > Subject: [TOL] Captain Loveless > > > > > > > Does anyone know who Captain LOVELESS was? > > > > > > The Sussex Weekly Advertiser, Monday, September 18th, 1809 has an > > > alphabetical list under Game Duty, of individuals who obtained licenses > > > for killing of Game in Sussex, September 16th 1809, including Loveless, > > > Captain, of Brighton, Sussex. Also included are May, Thomas jun. and > > > May, Richard, both of Billingshurst, Sussex. These entries may be > > > relevant to the later marriage of William Henry LOVELESS to Mary Jane > > > MAY in Portsea, Hampshire, in 1875 DecQtr, as William was in the Royal > > > Navy, b. 1854, Portsea (age 27 in 1881 Census.) Mary Jane MAY was a > > > daughter of William MAY and Mary Ann CLEMENTS, and William MAY was born > > > in 1822 in Brighton, Sussex to Celia MAY, widow of Dean MAY (who died in > > > 1817). William claimed Dean as his father in 1854 when he married Mary > > > Ann. It is not clear who was his actual father! There may have been > > > some longtime connection, therefore, between the LOVELESS and MAY > > > families in the Brighton area. > > > > > > My conjecture is that Capt. Loveless could have been William Henry's > > > father or grandfather, or a great-uncle, perhaps. I don't even have a > > > first name, though I suspect that W.H's father and grandfather were also > > > named William Henry, based on a son William Henry LOVELESS and a > > > possible grandson named William Henry V LOVELESS. The MAY family > > > definitely was in Brighton for a good portion of the 18th century, and > > > Thomas could have been a son of Richard, though what connection if any > > > Richard has to Dean, I do not know. There is a Thomas MAY b. 1744, s/o > > > James MAY and Mary DEAN, but I do not have any Richard MAYs in the lines > > > so far researched. Thomas's brothers John and Edward were married, but > > > I don't have any children for John and no Richard among Edward's > > > children (there is a seven year gap between the second and third.) Two > > > other brothers James and William, may have married but I have no > > > details, so there are plenty of possibilities for a Richard in the mid > > > 1700's and a son Thomas in the late 1700's. > > > > > > Any information on either of these names would be helpful! I still have > > > no known parents for William Henry LOVELESS and no known connections > > > between him and any Dorset LOVELESS family. It is VERY frustrating not > > > to be able to find him or his ancestry. (No birth or baptism record > > > found in Portsea, either, only the 1881 census to go on!) Doesn't > > > anyone have any connections to Hampshire or Sussex? > > > > > > Regards > > > Martin Willcocks > > > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >