Carol, I have cheated and copied over the bit that I first posted on TOLPUDDLE-L which goes like this: JOHN LOVELACE, born ?, place?, married? father of: ............ Benjamin LOVELACE b. 6 Jan 1824, London, England; married 16 December 1894, Holborn, London, England to..... Sarah Rebecca HAWKINS b. 15 April 1820, City of London, England. They had 7 children that we know of: - Sarah Harriot (m. Thomas Corless)b. 1 October 1845, Shoreditch, London, England. - Benjamin John (m. twice we think, initially to Emma Jane Randal[l]) b. 19 February 1848, East Cripplegate, London, England. - George Abraham (m. Sarah Elizabeth Jeary) b. 18 November 1849, Shoreditch, London, England - William Edward (m. Martha Emily SHEA - my g.grandparents), b. 28 December 1851, London, England. - Harriet Alice (spinster), b. 26 August 1853, Shoreditch, London, England. - Margaret Ellen (spinster), b. 27 December 1857, Islington, London, England. - Esther (spinster), b. 28 November 1859, Walworth, London, England. I also have death dates for these children and their parents. I have a note that this information was obtained from "Ernest B. Lovelace, Grandson of Benjamin Lovelace, and certificates" in possession of my family. Do you have some Lovelace/less characters in London area? Mandy ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian and Carol <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Anyone home? > Hey Mandy, thanks so much for that. Those places you have 'found' are > perfect for me since I am still convinced that my family have some > connection with the Tolpuddle set of Loveless's and needed to know proximity > of Tolpuddle and Long Bredy and Bridport. Obviously not too far apart. As > I said before it now seems that Loveless can be registered as anything from > LoveLACE, LISS, LASS, LEES AND LEECH! Would be very interesting to plough > into the depths of time to find out whether these 2 names LOVELACE AND > LOVELESS share the same family root or whether illiteracy got the better of > many registrations. Thanks again. HAppy hunting - which part of London?? > Carol