Thanks for that Irene. The dates you gave me before for the Powerstock Lovelaces would not work for Henry's parents as according to the 1851 census Dad would have only been 2 years old when he married Henry's mum......anyway look forward to hearing if you have anymore. I would guess there was another Thomas Lovelace in there somewhere, brother to Henry - first born son, maybe born around 1788/90?? Or maybe they had a Thomas before their marriage....? In 1785? That might be the Powerstock Thomas who was 66 in 1851??? Food for thought. How goes life? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 8:44 AM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Lovelace/Matthews > Hi all > Just to clear things up. > > In the BVRI there is a marriage > LOVELACE Thomas > wife Betty MATTHEWS > Marriage Date 1 Feb 1787 > Recorded in LONG BREDY, DORSET, ENGLAND. > Then there is > LOVELACE Henry Matthew > Christened 26 Jun 1794 > Parents Thomas LOVELACE & Elizabeth > Recorded in LONG BREDY, DORSET, ENGLAND. > > Now I don't know about the rest of your but I would call > SNAP to these two. I would also think that there would be more children > between the marriage in 1787 and the christ/birth of Henry in 1794. > Carol I did send you a Loveless family from Powerstock that I still feel > are connected but I could be wrong. I have more info being sent > on them. Powerstock is just above Long Predy in Dorset. > > Hi Barb I am trying to work on the Aussie Loveless/Lovelace's and have > found another cousin connected to Henry Lovelace from Castlemaine, hope to > have her info this week. > Bye > Irene > > > >Barb - couldn't help noticing the Long Bredy bit about Thomas Lovelass > >marrying Elizabeth Mathews in 1780s. Not sure where you got this from but > >I have been researching my ggggrandad Henry's parents who I believe were > >Thomas and Elizabeth of Long Bredy who married in 1787. Irene gave me > >'Mathews' however we have since discovered that this was another Elizabeth > >from Powerstock who also married a Thomas Lovel(ace) - he was born in 1875 > >so his wife was no doubt born around the same time. > >Just wondering whether there is a confusion here or whether you have more > >info. about the Long Bredy Loveless's?? Carol > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Barbara <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 3:16 PM > >Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Edward Hawkins Lovelace/William Edward Lovelace > > > > > >> Hi Mandy, > >> Have just looked up my photocopy of the IGI, and you may be right, but > >there > >> are two > >> different call numbers for these gentlemen. > >> Edward Hawkins Lovelace b (for Born) 20 Dec 1851, Finesbury, Saint Luke > >> 01 Dec 1955 - 15 Feb 1956 SG - 29 Jan 1986LD > >> Batch/Film No 8420790 Sheet 80 > >> > >> William Edward Lovelace b (for Born) 20 Dec 1851- No church named - > >> 1 Dec 1955 - 15 Feb 1956 SG - Pre- 1970 - > >> Batch/Film No 0452016 - Sheet Film. > >> > >> I do not know enough about the IGI setup so have just listed what is > >shown. > >> The problem with the IGI is that there are not the deaths listed as of > >> course > >> that is not the purpose of the lisitings. Perhaps if there was only > >one > >> child his name could be William Edward Hawkins Lovelace ??? > >> > >> If you have been reading about Long Bredy you will notice Thomas > >> Lovlass married Elizabeth Matthews there in 1780's, now my Benjamin > >> Lovelace married Frances Matthews in Wells, Somerset in 1796. > >> > >> > >> Have just been doing some research on the Aussie lines, and found > >> a Laura Ann Lovelace married William Henry Collins in 1915. > >> Laura died in 1948 and lo and behold her parents were Marcus Brutus > >> Lovelace and Mary Ann Watley. From London, England. > >> Had a squiz at the IGI and Marcus Brutus Lovelace was christened > >> on the 13 Sep 1835, St Pancras Old Church - parents > >> John Lovelace and Mary Gaunt. He also had a brother Charles Frederick > >> Lovelace, christened 25 Jul 1832 at the same church. > >> > >> Regards Barb Lewis. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John O. Andersen <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> Date: Saturday, 4 September 1999 6:33 PM > >> Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Edward Hawkins Lovelace/William Edward Lovelace > >> > >> > >> >Barb - I called my mother last night with some of the information you > >sent > >> >to me, that I felt was news to her. She told me that Edward Hawkins > >> >Lovelace and William Edward Lovelace were the same person. I forgot to > >> >suggest to her that there may have been a twin, but as this was her > >> >grandfather, I feel inclined to accept her thoughts. I will broach the > >> >subject the next time we talk. > >> >Mary Ann Lovelace WAS news! (so maybe a twin might not be out of the > >> >question?....) Thank you so much for the information. > >> > > >> >Mandy Andersen > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >