Hi Donna this is what I have on John. Yes he is the eldest child of Thomas and Dinnah Loveless John B 1786. I think I was wrong with him marrying Mary Ann (Ann) Moore, this is what was on the large tree I have but I now believe he may have married Mary Ann Way 23/4/1812 at Tolpuddle. John and his brother William were flaxdressers in Bridport in 1834, John and Mary Ann migrated to Canada, Mary Ann died at sea on the way over in 1865. John's children settled in Ontario Canada, Girard Ohio and Trumbull Ohio. I have lots of branches of this family and would love to hear from anyone that thinks they descend from this family. Bye for now Irene, Brrrr its cold here, send the heat. At 19:45 8/06/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi guys. > >I believe that a John Loveless was a flax dresser from Bridport. He was >related to George and James Loveless and perhaps a brother? I'm not sure of >the direct relationship. > >Okay just going through some of my old emails from you Irene. John Married >Mary Ann Moore or Ann Moore. Flax dresser Bridport 1834. Born Tolpuddle in >1786 - mother Dinah Loveless (nee Stickland), father Thomas Loveless.. So >therefore, he was the oldest brother - oldest child of 11. > >I'm having technical difficulties with my Southwestern disc, which has >Dorset county on, for my 1881 census. Hopefully, I can replace it. > >Looks like Bridport might be important for the Lovelesses next to Tolpuddle. > >Donna King >Tolpuddle List Manager >oldest Loveless ancestor - John Loveless born 1731 Tolpuddle, Dorset, >england >----- Original Message ----- >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 6:57 AM >Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family > > >> Hi Elizabeth >> Thanks for telling me were Symondsbury was I looked all day for it. Near >> Bridport well you are in the thick of things. Bridport Loveless/Lovelace's >> seem to be close to the Tolpuddle Loveless's. >> I did have a look on the 1881 census but didn't find any, one possiblity >> for William C 1834 now that you tell me near Bridport. >> >> >> Name-Lovelace William >> Age 45 >> Relationship-Head >> Census place- Melcombe R+ >> Occupation- Builder Emplo+ Self >> Where born-Dor Bridport >> >> >> Name-Lovelace Marian >> Age 30 >> Relationship-Wife >> Census place- Melcombe R+ >> Where born-Southhampton >> >> Hang on there's George >> >> >> Name-Lovelace George >> Age 76 >> Relationship-Head >> Census place- Symondsbury >> Occupation- Ag Lab >> Where born-Symondsbury >> Oh this George has a wife name Charlotte >> Name-Lovelace Charlotte >> Age 66 >> Relationship- George Lovelace >> Census place- Symondsbury >> Occupation- >> Where born-Symondsbury >> >> I need to study this and get back to you, George and Charlotte seem to be >> living with a James and Caroline Lovelace. >> There is more but I badly need sleep. >> Will do more tomorrow >> Bye Irene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 13:29 8/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >> >Dear Irene, >> > >> >Many thanks for all the information. >> > >> >The names themselves are interesting as my grandmother, Marina's >> >granddaughter, was called Sarah Jane and her sister was Harriet Caroline. >> > >> >I find this very interesting. >> > >> >I have ordered the LDS 1881 census so may be able to find them there when >it >> >comes. They were not on the 1851 Devon, Warwicks and Norfolk one as some >> >Werst Dorset people are. >> > >> >I live in Hampshire in England but I was born and raised in Bridport. >> >Symondsbury is a village just outside it. >> > >> >Many thanks for your help I will keep you posted of further developments >if >> >you are interested. >> > >> >Best wishes >> >Elizabeth (HOLLICK nee ROBERTS) >> >1 Glyn Way >> >FAREHAM >> >Hants. >> >PO13 2PH >> >England >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >Date: 08 June 1999 05:17 >> >Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family >> > >> > >> >>Hi Elizabeth >> >>This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another >> >>Loveless. >> >>Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads >> >>you in the right direction to finding your family. >> >>This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. >> >> >> >>Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury >> >>Mother- Marina Lovelace. >> >>_______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to >> >>William Eveleigh Symondsbury >> >> >> >>Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >>______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of >> >>William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. >> >> >> >> >> >>Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to >> >>Hannah Hine Symondsbury >> >> >> >>Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury >> >>Parents William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >> >> >>Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available >> >>films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved >to >> >far. >> >>Anyway enjoy >> >>Bye for now >> >>Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >> >>>Dear Irene, >> >>> >> >>>I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. >> >>> >> >>>I look forward to my birthday! >> >>> >> >>>Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) >> >>>1 Glyn Way >> >>>FAREHAM >> >>>Hants, >> >>>PO13 2PH >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: [email protected] ><[email protected]> >> >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >>>Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 >> >>>Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >