Hi all: Seems to be some new activity on the list these days so I thought I'd post my Hampshire LOVEMESS names again, in hope that someone may connect to them. William Henry LOVELESS, b. 1853, married Mary Jane MAY, b. 1857, Portsea, in DecQtr 1875, Portsea, and they had the following children: William Henry LOVELESS b. SepQtr 1876 May Grace LOVELESS b. 1880 d. DecQtr 1879, age 7. William Henry m. DecQtr 1901 at Portsmouth to either Ada May COUSINS ot Maude WEBB. I favour COUSINS as there was a connection to WILLCOCKS in the form of Thomas Cousins WILLCOCKS, and these families were in close proximity to each other, Their child, probably, was William Henry V LOVELESS b. DecQtr 1908, Portsmouth. (This would make William Henry (1853) the third to bear that name. In which case I'm still looking for William Henry LOVELESS in two earlier generations (before birth registration started.) In 1881 William (27) was aboard HMS Terror, along with brother-in-law William Henry MAY, 18. His wife, Mary Jane (24) was at 15 Malta Place with sister Grace MAY, 22, and two young children, William Henry LOVELESS (5) and Mary (or May) Grace LOVELESS (1) There are a lot more LOVELESS names in the FreeBMD list in Hampshire, in the Portsea/Portsmouth area, and I would expect some to be connected. I have NO known connections to the Tolpuddle LOVELESS line that I know of; there is no way to do DNA testing as LOVELESS is a lateral twig. My grandmother was another sister of Mary Jane. I also have NO leads to earlier generations except the surmise that William Henry 1853 was the third of that name. Any help greatly appreciated. Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Hi Martin Interesting that you should post again. I printed out your posting from the Lovelace list because it was ringing bells with me. I have a little on Postsea Loveless's but could not find anything on yours, will look again. Did have a laugh when I read that Postsea was in Victoria Australia which it is but I doubt your Loveless's come from there or I sure would know them seeing as I live just a couple of hours from Portsea OZ. I will look at Portsea England for you, must say that it rings huge bells with me, perhaps I have looked and tried before and that is all it is but will keep looking and send you the little I have to the list tomorrow on Portsea Loveless in England. Bye for now Irene -----Original Message----- From: Martin Willcocks [mailto:martinwill2@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:31 AM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TOL] LOVELESS in Hampshre Hi all: Seems to be some new activity on the list these days so I thought I'd post my Hampshire LOVEMESS names again, in hope that someone may connect to them. William Henry LOVELESS, b. 1853, married Mary Jane MAY, b. 1857, Portsea, in DecQtr 1875, Portsea, and they had the following children: William Henry LOVELESS b. SepQtr 1876 May Grace LOVELESS b. 1880 d. DecQtr 1879, age 7. William Henry m. DecQtr 1901 at Portsmouth to either Ada May COUSINS ot Maude WEBB. I favour COUSINS as there was a connection to WILLCOCKS in the form of Thomas Cousins WILLCOCKS, and these families were in close proximity to each other, Their child, probably, was William Henry V LOVELESS b. DecQtr 1908, Portsmouth. (This would make William Henry (1853) the third to bear that name. In which case I'm still looking for William Henry LOVELESS in two earlier generations (before birth registration started.) In 1881 William (27) was aboard HMS Terror, along with brother-in-law William Henry MAY, 18. His wife, Mary Jane (24) was at 15 Malta Place with sister Grace MAY, 22, and two young children, William Henry LOVELESS (5) and Mary (or May) Grace LOVELESS (1) There are a lot more LOVELESS names in the FreeBMD list in Hampshire, in the Portsea/Portsmouth area, and I would expect some to be connected. I have NO known connections to the Tolpuddle LOVELESS line that I know of; there is no way to do DNA testing as LOVELESS is a lateral twig. My grandmother was another sister of Mary Jane. I also have NO leads to earlier generations except the surmise that William Henry 1853 was the third of that name. Any help greatly appreciated. Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA. ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

Hi all Thought you might all enjoy this. Eye Subject: Romance ROMANCE An older couple were lying in bed one night. The husband was falling asleep but the wife was in a romantic mood and wanted to talk. She said: "You used to hold my hand when we were courting." Wearily he reached across, held her hand for a second and tried to get back to sleep. A few moments later she said: "Then you used to kiss me. "Mildly irritated, he reached across, gave her a peck on the cheek and settled down to sleep. Thirty seconds later she said: "Then you used to bite my neck." Angrily, he threw back the bed clothes and got out of bed. "Where are you going?" she asked. "To get my teeth!"

Irene - thanks for the funnie. Our summer is ending here in Ontario, Canada. The children are back to school and soon winter will be upon us. Hope all is well in your little corner of the world. cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eye" <eye22@bigpond.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: [TOL] Nice funny to share > > > Hi all > Thought you might all enjoy this. > Eye > > > > > > Subject: Romance > > ROMANCE > An older couple were lying in bed one night. The husband was falling > asleep but the wife was in a romantic mood and wanted to talk. She said: > "You used to hold my hand when we were courting." Wearily he reached > across, held her hand for a second and tried to get back to sleep. A few > moments later she said: "Then you used to kiss me. "Mildly irritated, he > reached across, gave her a peck on the cheek > and settled down to sleep. Thirty seconds later she said: "Then you used > to bite my > neck." Angrily, he threw back the bed clothes and got out of bed. "Where > are you going?" > she asked. > "To get my teeth!" > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Martin I do not know if this is of any help to you but a John Lovelace from Mosterton was recorded as living in Portland in the 1851 census as a Mason. His wife Anne had died in the preceding months and was buried in Mosterton but could well have been living elsewhere. John was living with his two sons from his first marriage Jonathon and Mark Rendell Loveless. John's mother's name was Grace as was the daughter of William Henry. This may be coincidence but on the other hand if you have hit a brick wall it may be worth looking into. Howard Martin. PS Have you got the marriage certificate of William Henry to Mary Jane May as this would tell you his father's name? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: [TOL] LOVELESS in Hampshre > Hi all: > > Seems to be some new activity on the list these days so I thought I'd > post my Hampshire LOVEMESS names again, in hope that someone may connect > to them. > > William Henry LOVELESS, b. 1853, married Mary Jane MAY, b. 1857, > Portsea, in DecQtr 1875, Portsea, and they had the following children: > William Henry LOVELESS b. SepQtr 1876 > May Grace LOVELESS b. 1880 d. DecQtr 1879, age 7. > > William Henry m. DecQtr 1901 at Portsmouth to either Ada May COUSINS ot > Maude WEBB. I favour COUSINS as there was a connection to WILLCOCKS in > the form of Thomas Cousins WILLCOCKS, and these families were in close > proximity to each other, > > Their child, probably, was > William Henry V LOVELESS b. DecQtr 1908, Portsmouth. > (This would make William Henry (1853) the third to bear that name. In > which case I'm still looking for William Henry LOVELESS in two earlier > generations (before birth registration started.) > > In 1881 William (27) was aboard HMS Terror, along with brother-in-law > William Henry MAY, 18. His wife, Mary Jane (24) was at 15 Malta Place > with sister Grace MAY, 22, and two young children, William Henry > LOVELESS (5) and Mary (or May) Grace LOVELESS (1) > > There are a lot more LOVELESS names in the FreeBMD list in Hampshire, in > the Portsea/Portsmouth area, and I would expect some to be connected. I > have NO known connections to the Tolpuddle LOVELESS line that I know of; > there is no way to do DNA testing as LOVELESS is a lateral twig. My > grandmother was another sister of Mary Jane. > > I also have NO leads to earlier generations except the surmise that > William Henry 1853 was the third of that name. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Martin Willcocks > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >