More details for those interested: 1891 Census for Yetminster Loveless Names Ann 28 wife no occ b.Leigh Folio 31A Beatrice M 3 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B Bertha A 5 dau Scholar b.Leigh Folio 31A David 34 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 34A Elizabeth Jane 1 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B Elizabeth Jane 8 dau b.Redford Folio 93A Emily Jane 36 wife Charwoman b.Batcombe Folio 93A Enos 67 head gen lab b.Leigh Folio 32B Fannie Annie 6 dau b. Batcombe Folio 93A Frank 18 son Asst Gardener b.Leigh Folio 32B Frederick David 4 son b.Cattistock Folio 93A Frederick Henry 2 son b.Leigh Folio 31A Georgina 14 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 92B Jane 28 dau Cook Dom b.Leigh Folio 32B Joseph Jno 4 son Scholar b.Holnest Folio 32B Judith 64 wife Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A Kate Harriet 23 wife b.Glanville Wotton Folio 32b Mabel Sarah 2 dau b.Alweston Folio 93A Margaret 10m dau b.Leigh Folio 31A Martha 33 wife b.Leigh Folio 34A Mary Ellen 12 dau b.Batcombe Folio 93A Samuel John 30 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 32B Sarah 19 dau Glover b.Leigh Folio 32B Sarah 61 wife b.Sydling St Nicholas Folio 32B Sarah Ann 18 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 94B William 62 head Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A William George 36 head Farm Labourer b.Leigh Folio 93A William Thomas 10 son b.Batcombe Folio 93A William (Jnr) 31 head Ag Lab b.Leigh Folio 31A I do not have the actual census so it is not possible to see the exact relationships although the folio numbers are a good guide bearing in mind one family may be on two pages. So from the above it seems Bertha Ann is the daughter of William Junior and his wife Anne with other children being Frederick Henry and Margaret with William Jnr possibly being the son of William and Judith. Hope this is useful. Howard

Howard - thank you for this wealth of information. I'm sure that those of our people who have Lovelesses from that area will appreciate this. Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Martin" <hgmartin@tiscali.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: [TOL] Bertha Ann Loveless 1891 Census > More details for those interested: > > 1891 Census for Yetminster > > Loveless Names > > Ann 28 wife no occ b.Leigh Folio 31A > Beatrice M 3 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B > Bertha A 5 dau Scholar b.Leigh Folio 31A > David 34 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 34A > Elizabeth Jane 1 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B > Elizabeth Jane 8 dau b.Redford Folio 93A > Emily Jane 36 wife Charwoman b.Batcombe Folio 93A > Enos 67 head gen lab b.Leigh Folio 32B > Fannie Annie 6 dau b. Batcombe Folio 93A > Frank 18 son Asst Gardener b.Leigh Folio 32B > Frederick David 4 son b.Cattistock Folio 93A > Frederick Henry 2 son b.Leigh Folio 31A > Georgina 14 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 92B > Jane 28 dau Cook Dom b.Leigh Folio 32B > Joseph Jno 4 son Scholar b.Holnest Folio 32B > Judith 64 wife Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A > Kate Harriet 23 wife b.Glanville Wotton Folio 32b > Mabel Sarah 2 dau b.Alweston Folio 93A > Margaret 10m dau b.Leigh Folio 31A > Martha 33 wife b.Leigh Folio 34A > Mary Ellen 12 dau b.Batcombe Folio 93A > Samuel John 30 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 32B > Sarah 19 dau Glover b.Leigh Folio 32B > Sarah 61 wife b.Sydling St Nicholas Folio 32B > Sarah Ann 18 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 94B > William 62 head Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A > William George 36 head Farm Labourer b.Leigh Folio 93A > William Thomas 10 son b.Batcombe Folio 93A > William (Jnr) 31 head Ag Lab b.Leigh Folio 31A > > I do not have the actual census so it is not possible to see the exact relationships although the folio numbers are a good guide bearing in mind one family may be on two pages. > > So from the above it seems Bertha Ann is the daughter of William Junior and his wife Anne with other children being Frederick Henry and Margaret with William Jnr possibly being the son of William and Judith. > > Hope this is useful. > > Howard > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

Woo now we are cookin!!! Great Howard and Derek I can add to this :-)) Before I start is Joyce Hardy on our list, if so Joyce this is your tree too. If she is not on the list Derek I will forward you her email address, she descends from Arthur. William Jnr in this census who seems to be Bertha's dad is the son of William and Judith. This connects into the tree I have so here goes. William snr born abt 1829 Leigh Dorset, parents Joshua Loveless and Ann Bush (more on them later) From the 1881 census William 52 labourer, born Leigh. Leigh. Judith 54 born Leigh. Leigh. William 21 labourer. Born Leigh. Leigh. Samuel J 20 Labourer. Born Leigh. Leigh. Jane (daughter of William and Judith not in this household at time of census) Arthur (son of William and Judith not in this household at time of census) Elizabeth 13. born Leigh. Leigh Sarah 9 born Leigh. Leigh. 1851 census William 22 born Leigh. Leigh. Judith 24 born Leigh. Leigh. William not being born until 1859 could possibly mean there would be more children to William and Judith. Eno and Loveless in this 1891 census is the brother of William Snr and possibly also David, I have a son David listed but he should be 38. Enough for this email To be continued Irene -----Original Message----- From: Howard Martin [mailto:hgmartin@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:23 AM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TOL] Bertha Ann Loveless 1891 Census More details for those interested: 1891 Census for Yetminster Loveless Names Ann 28 wife no occ b.Leigh Folio 31A Beatrice M 3 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B Bertha A 5 dau Scholar b.Leigh Folio 31A David 34 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 34A Elizabeth Jane 1 dau b.Leigh Folio 32B Elizabeth Jane 8 dau b.Redford Folio 93A Emily Jane 36 wife Charwoman b.Batcombe Folio 93A Enos 67 head gen lab b.Leigh Folio 32B Fannie Annie 6 dau b. Batcombe Folio 93A Frank 18 son Asst Gardener b.Leigh Folio 32B Frederick David 4 son b.Cattistock Folio 93A Frederick Henry 2 son b.Leigh Folio 31A Georgina 14 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 92B Jane 28 dau Cook Dom b.Leigh Folio 32B Joseph Jno 4 son Scholar b.Holnest Folio 32B Judith 64 wife Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A Kate Harriet 23 wife b.Glanville Wotton Folio 32b Mabel Sarah 2 dau b.Alweston Folio 93A Margaret 10m dau b.Leigh Folio 31A Martha 33 wife b.Leigh Folio 34A Mary Ellen 12 dau b.Batcombe Folio 93A Samuel John 30 head Gen Lab b.Leigh Folio 32B Sarah 19 dau Glover b.Leigh Folio 32B Sarah 61 wife b.Sydling St Nicholas Folio 32B Sarah Ann 18 serv Domestic Servant b.Batcombe Folio 94B William 62 head Parish Relief b.Leigh Folio 32A William George 36 head Farm Labourer b.Leigh Folio 93A William Thomas 10 son b.Batcombe Folio 93A William (Jnr) 31 head Ag Lab b.Leigh Folio 31A I do not have the actual census so it is not possible to see the exact relationships although the folio numbers are a good guide bearing in mind one family may be on two pages. So from the above it seems Bertha Ann is the daughter of William Junior and his wife Anne with other children being Frederick Henry and Margaret with William Jnr possibly being the son of William and Judith. Hope this is useful. Howard ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

Hi again Joshua Loveless father of William Snr and grandfather of William Jnr therefore g grandfather to you Bertha Ann, so what great is that to you Derek? Joshua Loveless born 1791 Leigh Dorset. Son of Joshua Loveless and Catherine Taylor. Joshua Loveless married Ann Bush 6 Jan 1816 at Icllington Dorset. Joshua Died in 1852. Ann Bush was born (I have two dates for her birth) 1792 & 1796 at Hermitage. Children of Joshua and Ann are 1/ Johnathon bapt 27 Nov 1814. Leigh. ( this bapt date may be incorrect because of the marriage date of parents) Maybe married Jane Trott 12 Aug 1859, on this marriage lists Joshua as father of groom. 2/ George bapt 14 Jul 1816 Leigh. Married Caroline ? 3/ John Bapt 22 Feb 1818 Leigh. Married Emily Foot 17 Dec 1844. 4/ Mary Ann bapt 9 Jan 1820 Leigh. Died 1830 age 10. Buried 10 Oct 1830. Leigh. 5/ Enos bapt 2 Jul 1824. Leigh. Married Nov 1849 Sarah A ? 6/ William bapt 1 Jan 1828. Leigh. Married Judith JEANES (didn't have that in early email) Nov 1856. 7/ Jane bapt 21 Jul 1830 Leigh Died 1833 Age 3. Buried 15 Sep 1833. 8/ Anna bapt 30 Sep 1832 Leigh. Died 1833 age 1. Buried 15 Sep 1833. Might have been a sad accident here. 9/ Catherine born 1835. Leigh. Married George Budden 7 Apr 1866 Leigh. Catherine had two children one born before her marriage. John 12 Nov 1864 and Alicia b 7 Dec 1866. I also have a Mary Ann Loveless listed with this family in the 1851 census, she is possible a granddaughter. Mary Ann born 1845, age 5 in census. Must continue tomorrow now because have to get to work. But here is a little run down 1/Bertha Ann Loveless daughter of William Loveless and Ann 2/William Loveless son of William Loveless and Judith Jeanes. 3/William Loveless son of Joshua Loveless and Ann Bush. 4/Joshua Loveless son of Joshua Loveless and Catherine Taylor 5/Joshua Loveless (born 1746)son of Jonathon Loveless and Ann Bird 6/Jonathon Loveless (born 1719) son of Joshua Loveless and Mary ? 7/Joshua Loveless (born 1683) son of Robert All in Leigh. 8/Robert born 1634 possibly son of John Loveless and Joane? Hermitage 9/John Loveless born 1610. THE END hopefully not:-) Have typed this up very fast because fast running out of time, please tell me if I typed a dumb date that does not fit. Derek I never say that this research is correct but hopefully you can use it to add on and verify. So my good pals until tomorrow when we will look at another branch of the Leigh Tree. Toodles Irene