Greg, Will my husband's line count? Even though the last two/three generations were born in Michigan, they came from Canada at least two generations. I have not found for sure were Ebenezer comes into the lines but my guess is into the New York line. Ebenezer and Elizabeth ROBERTS LOVELESS - William W and Rachel WIRMER LOVELESS - - Willard W and Mary CARROLL LOVELESS - - - Forrest W and Bernice SHAW LOVELESS - - - - Shirley LOVELESS and Dewey HEISLER - - - - - Kim HEISLER My husband is stubborn and won't do it, but I bet I can get one of the other Lovelesses (descendants of Forrest) to do it. ... Ann