Hello Gary (& anyone else interested) From reading various sources, it seems evident to me that the Martyrs were very active on the political front from the time they arrived at Newhouse Farm ,Nr. Ongar in Essex. George Loveless wrote a pamphlet entitled 'Victims of Whiggery'. I have never been able to obtain a complete copy of this (TUC claim not to have it) but if anyone does have a copy I would love to see it. However a quote from it reads......'Let every working man come forward, unite firmly but peacefully together as the heart of one man. Let them be determined to have a voice in and form part of the British nation. Then no longer would the interests of millions be sacrificed for the gains of a few......' The martyrs actively supported unions and strived for better conditions for farm workers. They were in contact with the London Dorchester Committee (who supported their families financially during their absence) and the Radicals and organised a Chartist Association which met frequently in Greensted (sometimes called Grinstead) which local farm labourers were encouraged to join.. Needless to say, they were not popular with local landowners or the local church. The vicar of Greensted objected to a group of convicts being brought to his parish and preached against their activities. The church still wanted to preserve the traditional order whereby everyone knew his place in society and was expected to accept his place within it without question. The vicar alerted the Home Office and once again the martyrs became 'marked men'. Even some of the once supportive newspapers attacked the government for having pardoned the men. Maybe this, together with the impending renewal date for the farm lease contributed to their decision to emigrate to Canada in 1844. Would be very interested to hear findings from anyone else on the subject. Dawn Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Chaffey" <garychaffey2@yahoo.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: [TOL] George Loveless in 1839 > If anybody has any information regarding the time > George Loveless spent on a farm in Essex, England in > 1839 during his stay back in England it would be > greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance > Gary Chaffey > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

When George arrived in London Ontario he settled on a farm two miles from the site of the first methodist church at Siloam,London.This church which he helped to build was burnt down being a wooden frame building ,it was rebuilt.He moved later to another farm and always resided in London. He was true to his princilpes and held bible classes.he preserved his love for flowers and his garden was a blaze of colour,regarded with good-natured envy by his immediate neighbours.James became caretaker of the methodist Church at Siloam wherehe remained until his death. One of Georges's daughters died on the passage as they were travelling the freezing seas of the North Atlantic. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "P.F. & D. Stewart" <stewpot20@btopenworld.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [TOL] George Loveless in 1839 > Hello Gary (& anyone else interested) > > From reading various sources, it seems evident to me that the Martyrs were > very active on the political front from the time they arrived at Newhouse > Farm ,Nr. Ongar in Essex. > > George Loveless wrote a pamphlet entitled 'Victims of Whiggery'. I have > never been able to obtain a complete copy of this (TUC claim not to have it) > but if anyone does have a copy I would love to see it. However a quote from > it reads......'Let every working man come forward, unite firmly but > peacefully together as the heart of one man. Let them be determined to have > a voice in and form part of the British nation. Then no longer would the > interests of millions be sacrificed for the gains of a few......' > > The martyrs actively supported unions and strived for better conditions for > farm workers. They were in contact with the London Dorchester Committee > (who supported their families financially during their absence) and the > Radicals and organised a Chartist Association which met frequently in > Greensted (sometimes called Grinstead) which local farm labourers were > encouraged to join.. > > Needless to say, they were not popular with local landowners or the local > church. The vicar of Greensted objected to a group of convicts being > brought to his parish and preached against their activities. The church > still wanted to preserve the traditional order whereby everyone knew his > place in society and was expected to accept his place within it without > question. The vicar alerted the Home Office and once again the martyrs > became 'marked men'. Even some of the once supportive newspapers attacked > the government for having pardoned the men. Maybe this, together with the > impending renewal date for the farm lease contributed to their decision to > emigrate to Canada in 1844. > > Would be very interested to hear findings from anyone else on the subject. > > Dawn Stewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Chaffey" <garychaffey2@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:19 AM > Subject: [TOL] George Loveless in 1839 > > > > If anybody has any information regarding the time > > George Loveless spent on a farm in Essex, England in > > 1839 during his stay back in England it would be > > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > Gary Chaffey > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >