No replies to previous call for help. Still seeking birth details of the above. If Pallington is not in Tolpuddle could sks please tell me where it is? Regards, Pat Hounsell NZ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp?banner=emailtag&referrer=hotmail

I am looking for the baptism details of the above b <1823>. She married John GOODFELLOW in 1848 and moved to Child Okeford. Not sure where Pallington is but grateful for many assistance. Pat _________________________________________________________________ Love Movies? You'll love HomeScreen. Rental DVDs - no late fees! Go to: http://www.ninemsn.homescreen.com.au/account/freetrial/?.promo=9msn_hotmail_ tagline

I have Loveless conections in Portsmouth but mine went there after 1890. Have you looked at the earlier censuses yet? Donna, I also would be interested to know where your Lovelesses come from as Robert and Esther are both re-occuring names in my Lovelesses. Michelle

Hi Donna: Thanks for your welcome letter. Seeing all the US traffic on the LOVELACE list, I was becoming more than a little discouraged in my efforts to find anyone at all with English LOVELESS roots. Since LOVELESS is a "twig" on my tree, I can't contribute anything to the Y-DNA testing they are all so rapturous about! You did not mention whether your 1875 William Henry was from Hampshire or somewhere else. As you will see from my previous post, the Portsea area of Hampshire is where my family connections are thickest. My father went to Portsmouth Grammar School, for example, and my William Henry MAY and William Henry LOVELESS were both his uncles. I never found a marriage for his Aunt Grace MAY, who lived with her married sister in 1881. Since I have NO previous generations of the LOVELESS family of interest as yet, I also have no way of reaching back to the Tolpuddle martyrs, nor into Dorset, nor to people who emigrated to America in the 1600's. In fact, almost without exception, I haven't found any of my family lines back much before the early 1700's. My WILLCOCKS line came from Devon, but even there the father of Robert WILLCOCKS b. 1764 is an open question, as there were several possibilities, and no census data etc. to help. On my maternal side, I have KING relatives way back in Kent, in the region around Woodchurch. We could possibly connect there. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Hello everyone. I was wondering if any of you who live in England could obtain a birth certificate for me. This is for my paternal grandmother. Some one was kind enough to send me her birth particulars. If anyone could do this I would send you a money order for whatever the amount. Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Clark To: tolpuddle4@dorset-opc.com Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: Jones, Rebecca Warwick Dear Donna, I tried sending this message to deking@rogers.com, but got a delivery failure. then I found this other address which I hope is correct. I saw your interest in Rebecca Warwick JONES, on the Jones web site and you didn't know her parents. I found this birth in FreeBMD. Births Jun 1886 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Rebecca Warwick Lambeth 1d 450 If you get her birth certificate and find her parents names I'd be interested as I'm looking for JONES in London. Best wishes Elizabeth

Martin - Welcome to the Tolpuddle Mailing List. My name is Donna King and I'm the List Manager. The Tolpuddle List was set up for the research of the Loveless/Lovelace name in England, Canada, and Australia. Also for the research of the Tolpuddle Martyrs and descendents of the other surnames that are connected to the Loveless and Lovelace names. This list is a small in numbers compared to some other Mailing Lists but the people who subcribe to this list are friendly and caring. Funnies are allowed on this list but must not be offensive. Reference your email below I'm not sure if my Lovelesses are connected to yours. I do have a William Henry Loveless but he was born 1875 and his parents were Robert and Esther Loveless. I will review your email more thoroughly to see if any of my family connects. Can anyone else help Martin? Irene?? Hope everyone in Canada had a good Canada Day on Thursday. Mine was very quiet. I'm getting my feet wet at school and I have three more weeks to finish and tied up loose ends for my military life. Take care all, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: [TOL] Posting LOVELESS interests > Hi All: > > I am new to this list, but Greg Lovelace has suggested I try my query > here, as LOVELESS apparently has connections to the Tolpuddle martyrs. > My LOVELESS connections are in Hampshire, though, and as they are only > in the 1881 and 1891 censuses so far I have only one known connected > family - the others may be, but since I haven't found parents etc., I > don't yet know. Hence my enquiry. Please check all the names below if > you have LOVELESS connections: > > In the 1881 census for Portsea, Hampshire, my immediate relative (a > great-uncle by marriage) is William Henry LOVELESS: > > Dwelling: 15 Malta Road Census Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England > Mary J. LOVELESS M 24 Head F Southsea, Hampshire, England (nee MAY) > Seaman's wife (Mary Jane) > Wiulliam H. LOVELESS - 5 Son M Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar > (should be William Henry) > Mary G. LOVELESS - 1 Daur F Southsea, Hampshire, England (may be May Grace) > Grace MAY U 22 Sister F Southsea, Hampshire, England Dressmaker > (my great aunt) > (William Henry LOVELESS b. SepQ 1876 Portsea) > > William Henry LOVELESS, 27, (Mary's husband) was aboard HMS Terror, as > was Mary's younger brother, William Henry MAY, 18. > > Vessel: "Terror" > Census Place: Royal Navy, At sea or in a foreign port. > Source: FHL Film 1342354 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5633 Folio > 127 Page 10 > William H. LOVELESS M 27 F Portsea, Hampshire, England > Occ: Capt Qr Deck > Also on HMS Terror: > Vessel: "Terror" > Census Place: Royal Navy, At sea or in a foreign port. > Source: FHL Film 1342354 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5633 Folio > 124 Page 4 > William H. MAY U 18 M Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Occ: Ships Stewards Asst > William MAY got married some years after this: > Marriages Dec 1887 > MAY William Henry Alverstoke 2b 1012a > DOLING Kate Emily Alverstoke 2b 1012a > > From FreeBMD, William Henry LOVELESS married Mary Jane MAY in DecQtr > 1875, and William Henry LOVELESS jr. was born in SepQtr 1876. Mary > Grace LOVELESS is not yet in FreeBMD, but I suspect a date in 1880. She > appears to be May Grace LOVELESS, who died age 7 in MarQtr 1888. > Considering the close relationship between Grace MAY and Mary Jane > LOVELESS, it would hardly be surprising that she would name her daughter > May Grace, although Mary Grace also possible, depending on where the > transcription error occurred.. > William Henry LOVELESS (jr.) apparently survived and married: > > William Henry LOVELESS (2) m. Ada May COUSINS or Maude WEBB DecQ 1901 > Portsmouth 2b 1068. Because of the MAY surname and a possible COUSINS > connection in the WILLCOCKS side (Thomas Cousins WILLCOCKS), I favour > Ada May COUSINS, but obviously need a sanity check here. (May have to > get the cert.) > Finally, they had a son: William Henry V. LOVELESS b. DecQ 1908 > Portsmouth 2b 367 > > Mary Jane's other sister was my grandmother, Alice Ann MAY, by 1881 a > WILLCOCKS, living with her father William MAY and my father: > Dwelling: 9 York St > Census Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341283 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1156 Folio > 75 Page 28 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William MAY M 59 M Brighton, Sussex, England (my > great grandfather) > Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Shipbuilding Dock Yard > Alice A. WILLCOCKS M 20 F Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > (my grandmother) > Rel: Daur Occ: Seamans Wife > Edmund W. WILLCOCKS 5 m M Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > (my father) > Rel: Grandson > Mary BROWN M 22 F Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Rel: Visitor Occ: Seamans Wife > > Marriages Mar 1880 (this was at St. Mary's Portsea, 6 Feb 1880) > MAY Alice Ann Portsea 2b 609 > WILLCOCKS Edmund Squire Portsea 2b 609 > > I searched FreeBMD and IGI for William H. Loveless, but there appear to > be no births prior to 1852 on FreeBMD yet (only one then) and no William > H in 1854! Also, found no christenings in IGI for William H. LOVELESS > in 1853-4. So no parents. > > I did find evidence of at least five LOVELESS families in Portsea, > Hampshire, and expect that some will turn out to be connected. To allow > others to link to them, I'm including them in this posting, but as I > have no definite relationship to them, much ill depend on whether or not > they have common ancestry with William H. I haven't been able to get > any results for 1871 (Hampshire not indexed) or 1861 (same reason) but > perhaps someone can find them in 1851 (too early for William H, though!) > > 1881: > Dwelling Garden Lane Ridge Cott Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, > England > James H. LOVELESS Head M Male 65 Portsea, Hampshire, England > Plasterer > Mary LOVELESS Wife M Female 46 Dinton, Wiltshire, England Laundress > James H. LOVELESS Son U Male 18 Ridge, Wiltshire, England Plasterer > Ellen F. LOVELESS Daur U Female 17 Landport, Hampshire, England > Milliner > Laura M. LOVELESS Daur U Female 12 Southsea, Hampshire, England > Scholar > Charley J. LOVELESS Son U Male 11 Southsea, Hampshire, England > Scholar > Minnie K. LOVELESS Daur U Female 8 Southsea, Hampshire, England > Scholar > Lilley A. LOVELESS Daur U Female 6 Southsea, Hampshire, England > Scholar > William T. LOVELESS Son U Male 3 Southsea, Hampshire, England > These being the only connections to Wiltshire that I know of, but there > were several LOVELESS families all living in the Portsmouth area of > Hampshire in the late 1800's: > > in 1891 they are: > Garden Lane, Bridge Cottage, Landport, Portsea, Hampshire > (based on above, it could have been Ridge Cottage) > Mary Loveless, Head, Widow, 55, Laundress, Portsmouth Hants > (b. 1836 bef. registration began) (Widow of James in 1881 above.) > Ellen F do, Daughter, S, 26, do, do do (b. 1865, not in FreeBMD) > Elizh M do, do, S, 22, do, do do (b. 1869, not in FreeBMD) > Minnie K do, do, S, 18, do, do do (b. 1873 - Minnie Kate SepQtr 1872) > Lily A do, do, S, 16, do, do do (b. 1875 - Lily Alice DecQtr 1874) > Wm Tho do, Son, , 13, Gardener, do do (b, 1878 - William Thomas SepQtr > 1877) > > Charley John was also in FreeBMD. > > 1881: > Dwelling 29 Wells St Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England > George LOVELESS Head M Male 35 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Plasterer > Amelia LOVELESS Wife M Female 32 Portsmouth, Hampshire, > England > Amelia LOVELESS Daur Female 10 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Scholar > Emma LOVELESS Daur Female 8 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar > George LOVELESS Son Male 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar > Henry LOVELESS Son Male 4 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar > Ellen LOVELESS Daur Female 2 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > Alfred LOVELESS Son Male 4 m Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > (22 Jan 1870 in IGI, George Stephen LOVELESS m. Amelia CUSS MarQ 1870 > Portsea 2b 476) > > 1881: > Dwelling 3 Town St. Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England > Henry LOVELESS Head M Male 34 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Iron > Driller H M Dk Yd > Martha LOVELESS Wife M Female 33 Portsmouth, Hampshire, > England > Mary LOVELESS Daur Female 9 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar > Henry LOVELESS Son Male 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar > George LOVELESS Son Male 3 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England > > These are in 1891 but don't know relationships: > 37 Clarence St, Kingston, Portsea, Hampshire > Mary Loveless, Head, Widow, 73, Living on own means, Hants Portsea (b. > 1818) > Ellen do, Daur, S, 31, Corset Maker, do Landport (b. 1860, not in FreeBMD) > Celia do, Do, S, 29, do, do (b. 1862, not in FreeBMD) > > Also a BURRIDGE family related to the LOVELESS family by marriage: > 61 Up Church Road, Landport, Portsea, Hampshire > Charles Burridge, Head, M, 43, Skilled Labourer (Torpedoes) (Ships > Stores), Hants Cosham > Ellen L do, Wife, M, 38, do Portsmouth (Ellen Louisa b. JunQtr 1852) > Charles W do, Son, S, 15, Shop Boy, do do > George H do, Son, 12, Scholar, do do > Alfred J do, Son, 11, do, do do > Ernest F J do, Son, 9, do, do do > Albert V L do, Son, 5, do, do do > Fearless B J do, Daug, 4, do, do do > Arthur F H do, Son, 2, do, do do > William Loveless, Wife's Father, Widr, 81, Past Work, Hants Portsmouth > (b. 1810) > > Both William b.1810 and Mary b. 1818 ought to be in the 1851 census in > different families, since the oldest children are still youngsters or > born after 1851. The 1861 is really the most likely to provide more > clues, but without an index I despair of being able to find out more. > Charles Burridge and Ellen Louisa Loveless are in both IGI and FreeBMD > Charles BURRIDGE married Ellen Louisa LOVELESS married at St. Mary's, > Portsea, 26 Mar 1873. > > 26 Aug 1866 John LOVELESS m. Georgina PAYNE St. Mary's Portsea, SepQ > 1866 Portsea 2b 699 (no sign in 1881 or 1891 census) > 18 Jul 1875 Susan Charlotte LOVELESS m. Charles WHITE St. Mary's, rec. > SepQ 1875 Portsea 2b 682. (haven't looked them up yet in 1881.) > > I would like to hear from someone if they have any ties, however remote, > to any of these families. This is the extent of my research so far. > > Regards > Martin Willcocks > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

Hi All: I am new to this list, but Greg Lovelace has suggested I try my query here, as LOVELESS apparently has connections to the Tolpuddle martyrs. My LOVELESS connections are in Hampshire, though, and as they are only in the 1881 and 1891 censuses so far I have only one known connected family - the others may be, but since I haven't found parents etc., I don't yet know. Hence my enquiry. Please check all the names below if you have LOVELESS connections: In the 1881 census for Portsea, Hampshire, my immediate relative (a great-uncle by marriage) is William Henry LOVELESS: Dwelling: 15 Malta Road Census Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England Mary J. LOVELESS M 24 Head F Southsea, Hampshire, England (nee MAY) Seaman's wife (Mary Jane) Wiulliam H. LOVELESS - 5 Son M Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar (should be William Henry) Mary G. LOVELESS - 1 Daur F Southsea, Hampshire, England (may be May Grace) Grace MAY U 22 Sister F Southsea, Hampshire, England Dressmaker (my great aunt) (William Henry LOVELESS b. SepQ 1876 Portsea) William Henry LOVELESS, 27, (Mary's husband) was aboard HMS Terror, as was Mary's younger brother, William Henry MAY, 18. Vessel: "Terror" Census Place: Royal Navy, At sea or in a foreign port. Source: FHL Film 1342354 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5633 Folio 127 Page 10 William H. LOVELESS M 27 F Portsea, Hampshire, England Occ: Capt Qr Deck Also on HMS Terror: Vessel: "Terror" Census Place: Royal Navy, At sea or in a foreign port. Source: FHL Film 1342354 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5633 Folio 124 Page 4 William H. MAY U 18 M Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Occ: Ships Stewards Asst William MAY got married some years after this: Marriages Dec 1887 MAY William Henry Alverstoke 2b 1012a DOLING Kate Emily Alverstoke 2b 1012a From FreeBMD, William Henry LOVELESS married Mary Jane MAY in DecQtr 1875, and William Henry LOVELESS jr. was born in SepQtr 1876. Mary Grace LOVELESS is not yet in FreeBMD, but I suspect a date in 1880. She appears to be May Grace LOVELESS, who died age 7 in MarQtr 1888. Considering the close relationship between Grace MAY and Mary Jane LOVELESS, it would hardly be surprising that she would name her daughter May Grace, although Mary Grace also possible, depending on where the transcription error occurred.. William Henry LOVELESS (jr.) apparently survived and married: William Henry LOVELESS (2) m. Ada May COUSINS or Maude WEBB DecQ 1901 Portsmouth 2b 1068. Because of the MAY surname and a possible COUSINS connection in the WILLCOCKS side (Thomas Cousins WILLCOCKS), I favour Ada May COUSINS, but obviously need a sanity check here. (May have to get the cert.) Finally, they had a son: William Henry V. LOVELESS b. DecQ 1908 Portsmouth 2b 367 Mary Jane's other sister was my grandmother, Alice Ann MAY, by 1881 a WILLCOCKS, living with her father William MAY and my father: Dwelling: 9 York St Census Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341283 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1156 Folio 75 Page 28 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William MAY M 59 M Brighton, Sussex, England (my great grandfather) Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Shipbuilding Dock Yard Alice A. WILLCOCKS M 20 F Portsmouth, Hampshire, England (my grandmother) Rel: Daur Occ: Seamans Wife Edmund W. WILLCOCKS 5 m M Portsmouth, Hampshire, England (my father) Rel: Grandson Mary BROWN M 22 F Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Seamans Wife Marriages Mar 1880 (this was at St. Mary's Portsea, 6 Feb 1880) MAY Alice Ann Portsea 2b 609 WILLCOCKS Edmund Squire Portsea 2b 609 I searched FreeBMD and IGI for William H. Loveless, but there appear to be no births prior to 1852 on FreeBMD yet (only one then) and no William H in 1854! Also, found no christenings in IGI for William H. LOVELESS in 1853-4. So no parents. I did find evidence of at least five LOVELESS families in Portsea, Hampshire, and expect that some will turn out to be connected. To allow others to link to them, I'm including them in this posting, but as I have no definite relationship to them, much ill depend on whether or not they have common ancestry with William H. I haven't been able to get any results for 1871 (Hampshire not indexed) or 1861 (same reason) but perhaps someone can find them in 1851 (too early for William H, though!) 1881: Dwelling Garden Lane Ridge Cott Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England James H. LOVELESS Head M Male 65 Portsea, Hampshire, England Plasterer Mary LOVELESS Wife M Female 46 Dinton, Wiltshire, England Laundress James H. LOVELESS Son U Male 18 Ridge, Wiltshire, England Plasterer Ellen F. LOVELESS Daur U Female 17 Landport, Hampshire, England Milliner Laura M. LOVELESS Daur U Female 12 Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar Charley J. LOVELESS Son U Male 11 Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar Minnie K. LOVELESS Daur U Female 8 Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar Lilley A. LOVELESS Daur U Female 6 Southsea, Hampshire, England Scholar William T. LOVELESS Son U Male 3 Southsea, Hampshire, England These being the only connections to Wiltshire that I know of, but there were several LOVELESS families all living in the Portsmouth area of Hampshire in the late 1800's: in 1891 they are: Garden Lane, Bridge Cottage, Landport, Portsea, Hampshire (based on above, it could have been Ridge Cottage) Mary Loveless, Head, Widow, 55, Laundress, Portsmouth Hants (b. 1836 bef. registration began) (Widow of James in 1881 above.) Ellen F do, Daughter, S, 26, do, do do (b. 1865, not in FreeBMD) Elizh M do, do, S, 22, do, do do (b. 1869, not in FreeBMD) Minnie K do, do, S, 18, do, do do (b. 1873 - Minnie Kate SepQtr 1872) Lily A do, do, S, 16, do, do do (b. 1875 - Lily Alice DecQtr 1874) Wm Tho do, Son, , 13, Gardener, do do (b, 1878 - William Thomas SepQtr 1877) Charley John was also in FreeBMD. 1881: Dwelling 29 Wells St Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England George LOVELESS Head M Male 35 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Plasterer Amelia LOVELESS Wife M Female 32 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Amelia LOVELESS Daur Female 10 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Emma LOVELESS Daur Female 8 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar George LOVELESS Son Male 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Henry LOVELESS Son Male 4 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Ellen LOVELESS Daur Female 2 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Alfred LOVELESS Son Male 4 m Portsmouth, Hampshire, England (22 Jan 1870 in IGI, George Stephen LOVELESS m. Amelia CUSS MarQ 1870 Portsea 2b 476) 1881: Dwelling 3 Town St. Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England Henry LOVELESS Head M Male 34 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Iron Driller H M Dk Yd Martha LOVELESS Wife M Female 33 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Mary LOVELESS Daur Female 9 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Henry LOVELESS Son Male 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar George LOVELESS Son Male 3 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England These are in 1891 but don't know relationships: 37 Clarence St, Kingston, Portsea, Hampshire Mary Loveless, Head, Widow, 73, Living on own means, Hants Portsea (b. 1818) Ellen do, Daur, S, 31, Corset Maker, do Landport (b. 1860, not in FreeBMD) Celia do, Do, S, 29, do, do (b. 1862, not in FreeBMD) Also a BURRIDGE family related to the LOVELESS family by marriage: 61 Up Church Road, Landport, Portsea, Hampshire Charles Burridge, Head, M, 43, Skilled Labourer (Torpedoes) (Ships Stores), Hants Cosham Ellen L do, Wife, M, 38, do Portsmouth (Ellen Louisa b. JunQtr 1852) Charles W do, Son, S, 15, Shop Boy, do do George H do, Son, 12, Scholar, do do Alfred J do, Son, 11, do, do do Ernest F J do, Son, 9, do, do do Albert V L do, Son, 5, do, do do Fearless B J do, Daug, 4, do, do do Arthur F H do, Son, 2, do, do do William Loveless, Wife's Father, Widr, 81, Past Work, Hants Portsmouth (b. 1810) Both William b.1810 and Mary b. 1818 ought to be in the 1851 census in different families, since the oldest children are still youngsters or born after 1851. The 1861 is really the most likely to provide more clues, but without an index I despair of being able to find out more. Charles Burridge and Ellen Louisa Loveless are in both IGI and FreeBMD Charles BURRIDGE married Ellen Louisa LOVELESS married at St. Mary's, Portsea, 26 Mar 1873. 26 Aug 1866 John LOVELESS m. Georgina PAYNE St. Mary's Portsea, SepQ 1866 Portsea 2b 699 (no sign in 1881 or 1891 census) 18 Jul 1875 Susan Charlotte LOVELESS m. Charles WHITE St. Mary's, rec. SepQ 1875 Portsea 2b 682. (haven't looked them up yet in 1881.) I would like to hear from someone if they have any ties, however remote, to any of these families. This is the extent of my research so far. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Thanks, we plan to attend on the Sunday. Hope the weather forecast is good. cheers Sally McMahon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Martin" <hgmartin@tiscali.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: [TOL] Tolpuddle Martyrs Festival 2004 > For anyone who is interested, this years festival takes place from Friday to Sunday July 16 - 18. > > Further details can be obtained from the TUC website: > > www.tuc.org.uk/tolpuddle > > Howard Martin > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

For anyone who is interested, this years festival takes place from Friday to Sunday July 16 - 18. Further details can be obtained from the TUC website: www.tuc.org.uk/tolpuddle Howard Martin

I have a blond joke: Two bowling teams were to travel to the city for the League final. The Blondes and the Brunettes. They travelled on a double decker coach, the blondes went upstairs and the brunettes below. The brunettes cracked bottles of champagne, played disco music and had a party as they travelled. They were having a ball until one of them commented, "It's very quiet upstairs, do you think they're OK??" Another Brunette said, "I think we should go up and check" So, with balloons and streamers in hand they went upstairs to find all the Blondes seated, completely silent, staring straight ahead gripping the rail of the seat in front, knuckles white. The 1st Brunettesaid, "Hey what's up? We're having a ball downstairs, party party, what's wrong with all of you?" The blonde nearest them replied, "It's OK for you lot, you've got a driver!!" I told this joke to some 10 year olds and they didn't quite get it.........hope you did! Hi eye. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Eye <eye22@bigpond.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: RE: [TOL] Fw: Sending this joke against my better judgment > Hi Donna and gang! > Great joke!!! > Thanks for thinking of me Donna. I have been slack with my blond jokes > for some time now. > Here at the bottom end of the land of OZ, it is freezing, expecting hail > anytime now. > My life is hectic, glad to hear about your changes Donna, well done :-) > I miss tracking down Loveless's; hope to get back to it one day soon. > I hope you are all having great success in your family research. > Toodles for now > > Irene > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna King [mailto:emily04@rogers.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:27 PM > To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TOL] Fw: Sending this joke against my better judgment > > Hi All. This one is for Irene. > > Donna > > The Blonde > and the Coke Machine > > > There was a beautiful young blonde who was going to a soda machine > and she arrived there just before a business man coming to quench his > thirst. She opened her purse and put in 50 cents, studied the machine a > little, pushed a Diet Coke selection, and out came a Diet Coke which she > placed on a counter by the machine. > > Then she reached in her purse again and pulled out a dollar and > inserted it in the machine. Studying the machine carefully, she pushed > the button for Coke Classic and out came a Coke Classic and 50 cents > change. > > She immediately took the 50 cents and put it in the machine, > studied it for a moment and pushed the Mountain Dew button. Out came a > Mountain Dew. As she was reaching into her purse again, the business man > who had been waiting patiently for several minutes now spoke up. > > "Excuse me Ms. but are you done yet?" She looked at him and > indignantly replied: "Well Duhhh!, I'm still winning" > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004 > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hi Donna and gang! Great joke!!! Thanks for thinking of me Donna. I have been slack with my blond jokes for some time now. Here at the bottom end of the land of OZ, it is freezing, expecting hail anytime now. My life is hectic, glad to hear about your changes Donna, well done :-) I miss tracking down Loveless's; hope to get back to it one day soon. I hope you are all having great success in your family research. Toodles for now Irene -----Original Message----- From: Donna King [mailto:emily04@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:27 PM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TOL] Fw: Sending this joke against my better judgment Hi All. This one is for Irene. Donna The Blonde and the Coke Machine There was a beautiful young blonde who was going to a soda machine and she arrived there just before a business man coming to quench his thirst. She opened her purse and put in 50 cents, studied the machine a little, pushed a Diet Coke selection, and out came a Diet Coke which she placed on a counter by the machine. Then she reached in her purse again and pulled out a dollar and inserted it in the machine. Studying the machine carefully, she pushed the button for Coke Classic and out came a Coke Classic and 50 cents change. She immediately took the 50 cents and put it in the machine, studied it for a moment and pushed the Mountain Dew button. Out came a Mountain Dew. As she was reaching into her purse again, the business man who had been waiting patiently for several minutes now spoke up. "Excuse me Ms. but are you done yet?" She looked at him and indignantly replied: "Well Duhhh!, I'm still winning" ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004

Hi All. This one is for Irene. Donna The Blonde and the Coke Machine There was a beautiful young blonde who was going to a soda machine and she arrived there just before a business man coming to quench his thirst. She opened her purse and put in 50 cents, studied the machine a little, pushed a Diet Coke selection, and out came a Diet Coke which she placed on a counter by the machine. Then she reached in her purse again and pulled out a dollar and inserted it in the machine. Studying the machine carefully, she pushed the button for Coke Classic and out came a Coke Classic and 50 cents change. She immediately took the 50 cents and put it in the machine, studied it for a moment and pushed the Mountain Dew button. Out came a Mountain Dew. As she was reaching into her purse again, the business man who had been waiting patiently for several minutes now spoke up. "Excuse me Ms. but are you done yet?" She looked at him and indignantly replied: "Well Duhhh!, I'm still winning"

Molinda - Thank you for your email and the offer of photo of Grace and John Loveless. Unfortunately, I have no record of a Grace (Grow) Loveless in my family tree. I do however, have a number of John Loveless' that do not have a spouse listed. Do you have any more information? Such as marriage date and place? Good luck with your family research. Donna King Tolpuddle List Manager emily04@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molinda Karpman (by way of Greg Lovelace <gregl@starfishnet.com>)" <mkarpman@pacbell.net> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: [TOL] [LL] LOVELESS Photo > Hi everyone: > > Do you have a connection to: Grace Grow LOVELESS and John LOVELESS? > > Have been working with my 2nd cousin for genealogy on my Hawaiian side of > the family, and Cousin Pat (Grow-Panzer) and Bob came across a PHOTO of a > LOVELESS from England. The description is below in Bob's email to me, AND > if any of you out there, are interested or think you are related or want a > copy of the photo, please email me at mkarpman@pacbell.net and I will be > happy to pop it over to your email. > Molinda (Lovelace) Karpman > mkarpman@pacbell.net > > May 19, 2004 > Molinda, > This is a picture of (left) Grace Grow Loveless from England and her husband > (2nd from left) John Loveless In between them > is Judy who is Uncle Art's daughter. Uncle Art is Pat's dad's (Walter Grow) > brother. > Love, Bob > > > > > > > > ==== LOVELACE Mailing List ==== > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

Hi everyone: Do you have a connection to: Grace Grow LOVELESS and John LOVELESS? Have been working with my 2nd cousin for genealogy on my Hawaiian side of the family, and Cousin Pat (Grow-Panzer) and Bob came across a PHOTO of a LOVELESS from England. The description is below in Bob's email to me, AND if any of you out there, are interested or think you are related or want a copy of the photo, please email me at mkarpman@pacbell.net and I will be happy to pop it over to your email. Molinda (Lovelace) Karpman mkarpman@pacbell.net May 19, 2004 Molinda, This is a picture of (left) Grace Grow Loveless from England and her husband (2nd from left) John Loveless In between them is Judy who is Uncle Art's daughter. Uncle Art is Pat's dad's (Walter Grow) brother. Love, Bob ==== LOVELACE Mailing List ==== --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Hello all. These answers to Correspondents G.O.P. are from The Girl's wn - January 1887. Forwarded from the Surrey List. Donna > > DIE JUNGE MAUS - Although you have attained to the patriarchal age > of twenty-one, and your bones have only just become hard, we see no > objection to your learning to pain. There are works on the subject you name > in French as well as English. Write to the publisher, Mr. Tarn. Ours is the > editorial department. > > EMILY KAIGHIN - A milking-stool is round in the seat, about ten inches in > diameter, and has three wooden legs sloping outwards. People use it more as > a means for the practice of their artistic ideas than as a restful appliance > > > A.M.B. - to Acquire the art of painting on glass or china, you might be > taken as an apprentice at various firms, such as that of Mr. Cameron, 69, > Wigmore Street, Cavendish Square W.; or the Messrs. Powell of the > Whitefriars Glass Company, Whitefriars Street, E.C. This company receives > ladies, who work in a separate room for six hours daily and four on > Saturdays. The Messrs. Simpson and Messrs. Mortlock likewise employ ladies. > The average earnings are from £60 to £70 per annum for the lower branches of > art, and as much as £100 for the higher. > > WOULD-BE PROFESSIONAL - Certainly, a livelihood could be made out of wood > engraving, but then you should have more than one qualification for to. > Practical Skill, persevering industry, good sight, a firm, steady, yet > delicate touch, and natural artistic taste. The work has the advantage of > being home work, and needs little outlay - a good set of tools, and the > boxwood blocks purchased as required. A skilled engraver can earn from £3 > upwards a week. If you study at the South London Technical Art School, 122 > and 124 Kennington Park Road, you will have £3 to pay per annum for fees, > half-yearly and in advance. When you have acquired the art, illustrate some > popular work or picture initial letters for articles, and little end > sketches for the same, and take then to a publisher as specimens. You might > obtain advice at the central office of the City and Guilds of London > Institute, Gresham College London E.C. the director and secretary is Philip > Magnus, Esq. > > YOUNG INQURIER - Yes, there is such a thing as a "singing flame," and it is > not like a singing kettle nor a windy gaspipe, and it is as great a wonder > as the fabulous "singing tree," had that been real. A very delicate jet of > flame, introduced through a small pipe into a narrow glass tube of a foot > long, will respond to the singing of any note, if set in tune to it. > Professor Tyndall says, "With a little practice, one is able to command a > flame to sing and to stop singing, while it strictly obeys the injunction. > When the proper pitch has been ascertained the experiment is sure to succeed > and from a distance of twenty or thirty feet, the flame when sung to is > caused to sing responsively. If it do not respond, it is because it has not > been spoken to in the proper tone; but a note of somewhat higher pitch > causes it to stretch its tongue and sing vigorously. > > ZEARN - A butler has care of the wine cellar, decants the wine, and serves > it at table. He places the chief dish on the table, or carves it at the side > table, and his place is behind his master's chair, while the footman (if > one) stands behind his mistress. The butler also stands behind the footman > when the latter opens the hall door to visitors. The servant, improperly > called a butler, who holds a single-handed place combines the duties of both > butler and footman, with the exception of the care of the wine cellar, > unless in exceptional cases of special trust. > > > > > >

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Hi again my fellow Tolpuddlians. My darling daughter sent me this and I had to ask her if perhaps she wrote it, there are quite a few quotes here that I have used over the years. Enjoy Irene WHAT MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME! My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE - "If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning!" My mother taught me RELIGION - "You better pray that will come out of the carpet." My mother taught me about TIME TRAVEL - "If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" My mother taught me LOGIC - "Because I said so, that's why." My Mother taught me more LOGIC - "If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me." My mother taught me FORESIGHT - "Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident." My mother taught me IRONY - "Keep crying and I'll give you something to cry about." My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS - "Shut your mouth and eat your supper!" My mother taught me about CONTORTIONIST - "Will you "look" a t the dirt on the back of your neck!" My mother taught me about STAMINA - "You'll sit there 'till all that spinach is finished." My mother taught me about WEATHER - "It looks as if a tornado swept through your room." My mother taught me how to solve PHYSICS PROBLEMS - "If I yelled because I saw a meteor coming toward you; would you listen THEN?" My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY - "If I've told you once, I've told you a million times - Don't Exaggerate!!!" My mother taught me THE CIRCLE OF LIFE - "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out." My mother taught me about BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION - "Stop acting like your father!" My mother taught me about ENVY - "There are millions of less fortunate children in this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do!" My Mother taught me about ANTICIPATION - "Just wait until we get home." My Mother taught me about RECEIVING - "You are going to get it when we get home!" My Mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE - "If you don't stop crossing your eyes, they are going to freeze that way." My Mother taught me to THINK AHEAD - "If you don't pass your spelling test, you'll never get a good job." My Mother taught me ESP - "Put your sweater on; don't you think I know when you're cold?" My mother taught me HUMOR - "When that lawn mower cuts off your toes, don't come running to me." My mother taught me how to BECOME AN ADULT - "If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll never grow up." My Mother taught me about GENETICS - "You're just like your father." My Mother taught me about my ROOTS - "Do you think you were born in a barn?" My Mother taught me about WISDOM OF AGE - "When you get to be my age, you will understand." And my all time favorite... JUSTICE - "One day you'll have kids ... and I hope they turn out just like you!"

Hi all, now this is the way I like to think and thought you would all enjoy this logic. Enjoy Irene Chocolate is a Vegetable!! Chocolate is derived from cocoa beans. Bean = vegetable. Sugar is derived from either sugar cane or sugar BEETS. Both of them are plants, in the vegetable category. Thus, chocolate is a vegetable. To go one step further, chocolate candy bars also contain milk, which is dairy. So candy bars are a health food. Chocolate-covered raisins, cherries, orange slices and strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want. Remember - - - "STRESSED" spelled backward is "DESSERTS"

Subject: Jobs > > > > > > > > My first job was working in an orange juice factory, > > > but I got canned. Couldn't concentrate. > > > > > > Then I worked in the woods as a lumberjack, but I just > > > couldn't hack it, and so they gave me the ax. > > > > > > After that I tried to be a tailor, but I just wasn't > > > suited for it, mainly because it was a so-so job. > > > > > > Next, I tried working in a muffler factory, but that > > > was too exhausting. > > > > > > Then I tried to be a chef. I figured it would add a > > > little spice to my life, but I just didn't have the > > > thyme. > > > > > > I attempted to be a deli worker, but, any way I sliced > > > it, I couldn't cut the mustard. > > > > > > My best job was being a musician, but eventually I > > > found I wasn't note worthy. > > > > > > I studied a long time to become a doctor, but I didn't > > > have any patience. > > > > > > Next was a job in a shoe factory. I tried but I just > > > didn't fit in. > > > > > > I became a professional fisherman but discovered that > > I > > > couldn't live on my net income. > > > > > > I managed to get a good job working for a pool > > > maintenance company, but the work was just too > > > draining. > > > > > > So then I got a job in a workout center, but they said > > > I wasn't fit for the job. > > > > > > After many years of trying to find steady work I > > > finally got a job as a historian until I realized > > there > > > was no future in it. > > > > > > My last job was working at Starbucks, but I had to > > quit > > > because it was always the same old grind. > > > > > > SO I RETIRED . . . AND I FOUND I AM JUST PERFECT FOR > > > THE JOB!! What a life !!!!! > > > > The secret of happiness is to admire without the > > desire to grasp. > > . > >Donna King List Owner Tolpuddle/Cannell Mailing Lists deking@rogers.com LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs Donna's Genealogy Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3288 We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors...but they all have to learn to live in the same box.

Hello all. I thought these answers were interesting as it shows the chance in mind set over the years. These answers are from 1886 and are like those answers of Anne Landers to people who have written to her of their problems. > > VANITY - We have pleaure in directing attention to the opening of a home for > destitute children of the upper classes at Tunbridge Wells. So much is done > for the lower orders, and so very little for poor gentry, that we sincerely > wish this little institution will meet with abundant support. Address Mrs. > Laddis, hon. Secretary, 11, South-grove, Tunbridge Wells. The objects are > twofold - to provide a home for the children till able to earn a livelihood, > and to offer temporary change of air to those whose parents (military, naval > or proffessional) can only make a small payment for it. > > JEANETTE -You would be both rash and imprudent in marrying so unreliable a > man. His saying that he "could do so much with you" is mere talk, when every > act has contradicted the assertion. Besides, he has no right to reckon uopn > leaning on you. You have right to expect to lean upon him. He is a broken > reed to depend uopn, and would drag you down to poverty , and then, when > failures and want have tried his weak nature, who knows the result? Drink > might follow. It is unmanly and dishonourable in a man who has no home nor > money to ask any woman to marry him, and you are fully justified in > withdrawing from the engagement without asking his permission, having > already excused his failures so often. Ask your parents to dismiss him if > troublesome. > > JUST EIGHTEEN - The mutual opening of each other's letters should be made > from the beginning a matter of distinct agreement between a husband and > wife. However great the mutual confidence may be, expediency may often > render the the indiscriminate opening of letters undesirable as a regular > rule. In fact, it would be better, in our opinion, that each should open > their own, and respect those of the other, thereby showing the greater > confidence in that respect. Voluntarily to read aloud the ordinary letters > to each other is certainly desirable. > > A CONSTANT READER - tells us that she has become so deaf from a severe > cold, that she could not hear the clock strike when close to it. For this > deafness she tried the following prescription , for which, she says, a lady > paid a physician three guineas. She moistened a little wool with the fat of > uncooked bacon, and put it in her ears, changing it every second day. The > weather being cold, she tied a lace lappet over her ears, and when out of > doors covered them with her bonnet strings. In less than a fortnight her > hearing was restored, and she has had no return of deafness. Another lady > recovered her hearing by means of taking a strong tonic, taking also > nourishing food, and so strengthening the entire system, and with equally > satisfactory results. > Donna King List Owner Tolpuddle/Cannell Mailing Lists deking@rogers.com LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs Donna's Genealogy Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3288 We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors...but they all have to learn to live in the same box.