Sorry if this comes through twice, posted this to the list 12 hours ago and have not seen it come through, perhaps there is a problem with Rootsweb as I am receiving emails normally from everyone else. Fingers crossed this goes through. Hello everyone, John and Carol Carol, I don't think that John is not on the Tolpuddle list, he posted to the Dorset list. I have corresponded with John years ago and email him a g'day when I saw his name. I will cc this email to him, Hi John we are inviting you to join our list. Perhaps Donna could forward how to subscribe, please. John's Loveless's descends from 1/William Loveless and Joanna Aish married in Bincombe in 1744 2/ William Loveless and Dorothy Folkes 3/Robert Folkes Loveless and Mary Read then I think there son Joseph Loveless and Sarah Ann Bushrod all of Bincombe. I am waiting for John's reply to refresh my memory as my research also is on my old computer. Melissa (eldest daughter) has taken this computer and burnt all my research to disc, won't be long and I will have it all again. There were quite a few people that descended from this line, I am not sure if they are still on this list or the Lovelace list. I do have a list of them. John Loveless who I corresponded with in 2002 descended from Charles Loveless s/o Robert and Dorothy. Peter Loveless and Wendy Wareham (brother & sister) descended from Charles as well, they were both in contact with the Lovelace list for some time but I have lost touch with them. Wendy lived in Queensland Cas. Andrew Brooke, who I think was with us for some time. Jenny Bartlett who descends from Joseph and Sarah, we corresponded for a long time but I have lost touch with her, will try contacting her because she would love this, not sure if she came onto the Tolpuddle list. Jenny Hodgson, can't remember were she fits in but I have her in my book as researching this line as well. I have not found the birth or baptism of William Loveless who married Joanna Aish and therefore he could connect anywhere, hopefully to you Carol. Someone else on the list may have him. From the time of there marriage this family seem to stay around Bincombe. We have often had a lot of interest on the list about this family. Robert Fookes Loveless's brother migrated to Canada and is the William of Scarborough that we have talked on the list about before. My email Carol is eye22@bigpond.com Hope all this is a help. Have a great Sunday all :-)) Irene -----Original Message----- From: carol&brian [mailto:brecas@dnet.net.au] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:22 PM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher Hi John, can you tell us what you have for your Loveless line thus far? Not sure whether I can link at all, my relies aren't from Bincombe - but near by. Hi Irene - please send me your email address!!!! i have three computers on the go in the house, the original one (with my original address book) is 'dead' - all these others ( belonging to kids and Brian's business, have few if any useful addresses in..!) Cheers, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:10 AM Subject: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher > > Hello all. Greg Lovelace has forwarded this email from the Dorset > List. > > Carol - here is some one who is also researching Loveless in Bincombe. > Perhaps you can email him. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > > >From: John <johnsgenealogy@yahoo.com.au> > > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: My Dorset Interests > > > > <<snip>>

Sorry if this comes through twice, posted this to the list 12 hours ago and have not seen it come through, perhaps there is a problem with Rootsweb as I am receiving emails normally from everyone else. Fingers crossed this goes through. Hello everyone, John and Carol Carol, I don't think that John is not on the Tolpuddle list, he posted to the Dorset list. I have corresponded with John years ago and email him a g'day when I saw his name. I will cc this email to him, Hi John we are inviting you to join our list. Perhaps Donna could forward how to subscribe, please. John's Loveless's descends from 1/William Loveless and Joanna Aish married in Bincombe in 1744 2/ William Loveless and Dorothy Folkes 3/Robert Folkes Loveless and Mary Read then I think there son Joseph Loveless and Sarah Ann Bushrod all of Bincombe. I am waiting for John's reply to refresh my memory as my research also is on my old computer. Melissa (eldest daughter) has taken this computer and burnt all my research to disc, won't be long and I will have it all again. There were quite a few people that descended from this line, I am not sure if they are still on this list or the Lovelace list. I do have a list of them. John Loveless who I corresponded with in 2002 descended from Charles Loveless s/o Robert and Dorothy. Peter Loveless and Wendy Wareham (brother & sister) descended from Charles as well, they were both in contact with the Lovelace list for some time but I have lost touch with them. Wendy lived in Queensland Cas. Andrew Brooke, who I think was with us for some time. Jenny Bartlett who descends from Joseph and Sarah, we corresponded for a long time but I have lost touch with her, will try contacting her because she would love this, not sure if she came onto the Tolpuddle list. Jenny Hodgson, can't remember were she fits in but I have her in my book as researching this line as well. I have not found the birth or baptism of William Loveless who married Joanna Aish and therefore he could connect anywhere, hopefully to you Carol. Someone else on the list may have him. From the time of there marriage this family seem to stay around Bincombe. We have often had a lot of interest on the list about this family. Robert Fookes Loveless's brother migrated to Canada and is the William of Scarborough that we have talked on the list about before. My email Carol is eye22@bigpond.com Hope all this is a help. Have a great Sunday all :-)) Irene -----Original Message----- From: carol&brian [mailto:brecas@dnet.net.au] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:22 PM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher Hi John, can you tell us what you have for your Loveless line thus far? Not sure whether I can link at all, my relies aren't from Bincombe - but near by. Hi Irene - please send me your email address!!!! i have three computers on the go in the house, the original one (with my original address book) is 'dead' - all these others ( belonging to kids and Brian's business, have few if any useful addresses in..!) Cheers, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:10 AM Subject: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher > > Hello all. Greg Lovelace has forwarded this email from the Dorset > List. > > Carol - here is some one who is also researching Loveless in Bincombe. > Perhaps you can email him. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > > >From: John <johnsgenealogy@yahoo.com.au> > > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: My Dorset Interests > > > > <<snip>>

Hello everyone, John and Carol Carol, I don't think that John is not on the Tolpuddle list, he posted to the Dorset list. I have corresponded with John years ago and email him a g'day when I saw his name. I will cc this email to him, Hi John we are inviting you to join our list. Perhaps Donna could forward how to subscribe, please. John's Loveless's descends from 1/William Loveless and Joanna Aish married in Bincombe in 1744 2/ William Loveless and Dorothy Folkes 3/Robert Folkes Loveless and Mary Read then I think there son Joseph Loveless and Sarah Ann Bushrod all of Bincombe. I am waiting for John's reply to refresh my memory as my research also is on my old computer. Melissa (eldest daughter) has taken this computer and burnt all my research to disc, won't be long and I will have it all again. There were quite a few people that descended from this line, I am not sure if they are still on this list or the Lovelace list. I do have a list of them. John Loveless who I corresponded with in 2002 descended from Charles Loveless s/o Robert and Dorothy. Peter Loveless and Wendy Wareham (brother & sister) descended from Charles as well, they were both in contact with the Lovelace list for some time but I have lost touch with them. Wendy lived in Queensland Cas. Andrew Brooke, who I think was with us for some time. Jenny Bartlett who descends from Joseph and Sarah, we corresponded for a long time but I have lost touch with her, will try contacting her because she would love this, not sure if she came onto the Tolpuddle list. Jenny Hodgson, can't remember were she fits in but I have her in my book as researching this line as well. I have not found the birth or baptism of William Loveless who married Joanna Aish and therefore he could connect anywhere, hopefully to you Carol. Someone else on the list may have him. From the time of there marriage this family seem to stay around Bincombe. We have often had a lot of interest on the list about this family. Robert Fookes Loveless's brother migrated to Canada and is the William of Scarborough that we have talked on the list about before. My email Carol is eye22@bigpond.com Hope all this is a help. Have a great Sunday all :-)) Irene -----Original Message----- From: carol&brian [mailto:brecas@dnet.net.au] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:22 PM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher Hi John, can you tell us what you have for your Loveless line thus far? Not sure whether I can link at all, my relies aren't from Bincombe - but near by. Hi Irene - please send me your email address!!!! i have three computers on the go in the house, the original one (with my original address book) is 'dead' - all these others ( belonging to kids and Brian's business, have few if any useful addresses in..!) Cheers, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:10 AM Subject: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher > > Hello all. Greg Lovelace has forwarded this email from the Dorset List. > > Carol - here is some one who is also researching Loveless in Bincombe. > Perhaps you can email him. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > > >From: John <johnsgenealogy@yahoo.com.au> > > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: My Dorset Interests > > > > <<snip>> > > > > >I am finally getting round to post a list of my Dorset interests. Guess > I > > >have reached the "brickwall" stage and now seeking some help to move > > >forward - or should I say backward seeing it is ancestry we researching! > > <<snip>> > > >Loveless (Bincombe) > > <<snip>> > > >Regards to all and happy researching in 2005. > > > > > >John Heath in Sunny Australia > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

Hi John, can you tell us what you have for your Loveless line thus far? Not sure whether I can link at all, my relies aren't from Bincombe - but near by. Hi Irene - please send me your email address!!!! i have three computers on the go in the house, the original one (with my original address book) is 'dead' - all these others ( belonging to kids and Brian's business, have few if any useful addresses in..!) Cheers, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:10 AM Subject: [TOL] Fw: [PML] Dorset researcher > > Hello all. Greg Lovelace has forwarded this email from the Dorset List. > > Carol - here is some one who is also researching Loveless in Bincombe. > Perhaps you can email him. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > > >From: John <johnsgenealogy@yahoo.com.au> > > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: My Dorset Interests > > > > <<snip>> > > > > >I am finally getting round to post a list of my Dorset interests. Guess > I > > >have reached the "brickwall" stage and now seeking some help to move > > >forward - or should I say backward seeing it is ancestry we researching! > > <<snip>> > > >Loveless (Bincombe) > > <<snip>> > > >Regards to all and happy researching in 2005. > > > > > >John Heath in Sunny Australia > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hello gang Hope you all are keeping well. I wanted to give you all an update on my little nephew Adam because you were all so wonderful with your prayers and support. My sister Donna and Adam take the one hour trip to Melbourne weekly were they stay overnight, he has had so many needles and lumber punchers and takes it all in his stride, Donna says he cries and carries on at the time but as soon as she says, all over, he comes around really quickly, he never gives her trouble going down there or in between the treatment, he is such a brave boy that he astounds his Aunty every day,. He has been very well during his chemo, (thank God) it's a strange thing he was so sick for ten months before he was diagnosed with leukemia that he has sailed through the treatment. Next week starts the final 14 weeks of the most intense treatment. He is to have a tube inserted into his little stomach for Donna to inject him every other day. He lost hair but not all of it, he became puffy but was still gorgeous. The chemo medication turned his eyes but they are improving and he is under the best eye specialist who is watching him closely. He started school last week and loves it, we are very proud of him and he has set the bench mark for our family on how to handle yourself through difficult times. I want to send a special thanks to you Donna, Adam was thrilled with his parcel, thank you so much for your kindness, he says he is going on holidays to Maine is the USA to see the lady who sent him a moose, now he wants to know if Canada is on the way so he can come and say thank you to you, he so cute and studies my globe of the world to see where you are. Thank you Donna for making him feel special. To finish off I have a funny for you all, even through I didn't laugh only felt tired after reading it :-)))) Lovely to see some action on the list and a huge welcome to the new folk, good luck in your search. Toodles for now Love Irene (Eye) PS -- Cas are you all settled?????? Send me you new address please. Voted Women's Favorite Email of the Year A man was sick and tired of going to work every day while his wife stayed home. He wanted her to see what he went through so he prayed: "Dear Lord: I go to work every day and put in 8 hours while my wife merely stays at home. I want her to know what I go through, so please allow her body to switch with mine for a day. Amen. God, in his infinite wisdom, granted the man's wish. The next morning, sure enough, the man awoke as a woman. He arose, cooked breakfast for his mate, awakened the kids, Set out their school clothes, fed them breakfast, packed their lunches, Drove them to school, came home and picked up the dry cleaning, took it to the cleaners And stopped at the bank to make a deposit, went grocery shopping, Then drove home to put away the groceries, Paid the bills and balanced the checkbook. He cleaned the cat's litter box and bathed the dog. Then it was already 1 P.M. and he hurried to make the beds, do the laundry, vacuum, dust, and sweep and mop the kitchen floor. Ran to the school to pick up the kids and got into an argument with them on the way home. Set out milk and cookies and got the kids organized to do their homework, Then set up the ironing board and watched TV while he did the ironing. At 4:30 he began peeling potatoes and washing vegetables for salad, breaded the pork chops and snapped fresh beans for supper. After supper, he cleaned the kitchen, ran the dishwasher, folded laundry, bathed the kids, and put them to bed. At 9 P.M. he was exhausted and, though his daily chores weren't finished, he went to bed where he was expected to make love, which he managed to get through without complaint. The next morning, he awoke and immediately knelt by the bed and said, Lord, I don't know what I was thinking. I was so wrong to envy my wife's being able to stay home all day. Please, oh please, let us trade back." The Lord, in his infinite wisdom, replied, "My son, I feel you have learned your lesson and I will be happy to change things back to the way they were. You'll just have to wait nine months, though. You got pregnant last night." Voted Women's Favorite Email of the Year

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Hello again gang. Here is an email forwarded from the Dorset List by Greg Lovelace. Can anyone help Wanda? If so, email her at wandagarrett@nl.rogers.com Cheers, Donna > > >From: "WANDA GARRETT" <wandagarrett@nl.rogers.com> > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [DOR] My Dorset Interests > > > >Hi John > > > >I have a Mary Ann Loveless in my husband's family tree. Mary Ann was born > >in Alton Pancras in 1828. She married Thomas Howe of Upwey in Corfe Castle > >in 1851. > > > >Wanda Garrett > >Newfoundland and Labrador > >Canada > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >

Hello all. Greg Lovelace has forwarded this email from the Dorset List. Carol - here is some one who is also researching Loveless in Bincombe. Perhaps you can email him. Cheers, Donna > > >From: John <johnsgenealogy@yahoo.com.au> > >Source: DORSET-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: My Dorset Interests > > <<snip>> > > >I am finally getting round to post a list of my Dorset interests. Guess I > >have reached the "brickwall" stage and now seeking some help to move > >forward - or should I say backward seeing it is ancestry we researching! > <<snip>> > >Loveless (Bincombe) > <<snip>> > >Regards to all and happy researching in 2005. > > > >John Heath in Sunny Australia > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >

Hello all. Here is the response from Michael. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cromey-Hawke" <michael@cromeyhawke.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: LOVELESS OF HERMITAGE > Hi Donna, > Lovely to hear from you after such a long time. I am afraid a lot of water > has flown under the bridge here since we last communicated so my efforts on > the family tree have been on the back burner, however I have just had a knee > replacement operation which will restrict my other activities but allow me > to spend more time on my computer (hopefully). > I desperately need to update quite a lot of detail I have accumulated. > Once I have done that I will send you a copy of the Gedcom. > All the best, > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> > To: "Michael Cromey-Hawke" <michael@cromeyhawke.fsnet.co.uk> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:00 PM > Subject: LOVELESS OF HERMITAGE > > > > Michael - hope that this email finds you. Hope all is well in your > little > > corner of the world. > > > > Recently on the Tolpuddle List we have someone who is descended from > Robert > > Loveless, one of the sons of John and Joanne of Hermitage, Dorset. > > > > Due to moves and computer crashes I'm not sure if I still have your > original > > gedcom of the Loveless family. I was wondering if you could resend it to > > me. I would really appreciate it. Anything that I use I have stated that > > it comes from your GEDCOM. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you. My email address has changed. It is > > now emily04@rogers.com > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Donna King > > List Manager > > Tolpuddle Mailing List > > > > e > > > > > >

Hi guys. Thought I had sent this email to the list but it ended up being sent only to Carol. That's what I get for sending emails late at night. I'm in process of sending an email to Michael and asking for a resend of his original file. I decided that would be faster and I would be sure of what his findings were. Will let you know when I receive a response. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: "carol&brian" <brecas@dnet.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [TOL] The Leigh Loveless Clan > Carol and all - here is what I have for the Hermitage Loveless clan > courtesy of Michael Cromrey-Hawke as it fits in the Tolpuddle Loveless Clan. > > I may have more but with all my moves and computer problems. I will try to > find Michael's original correspondence > > Cheers, Donna > > > > Descendants of John Loveless > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. JOHN1 LOVELESS was born 1610 in Hermitage, Dorset, England, and died Bef. > 1661. He married JOANE. She died 28 October 1661 in Frampton, Dorset, > England. > > > Children of JOHN LOVELESS and JOANE are: > > 2. i. ROBERT2 LOVELESS, b. 08 January 1633/34, Hermitage, Dorset, England; > d. 12 December 1700, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > ii. ANNA LOVELESS, b. 1636, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > Notes for ANNA LOVELESS: > > Christening recorded in BVRI > > LOVELACE, Anna Christening > > Sex: Female > > Christening Date: 10 Apr 1636 Recorded in: Hermitage, Dorset, England > > Father: John LOVELACE > > Mother: Joane > > Source: FHL Number 1279500 Dates: 1605-1880 > > 3. iii. JAMES LOVELESS, b. 1645, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > 4. iv. HUMPHREY LOVELESS, b. 1647, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > 5. v. THOMAS LOVELESS, b. 1650, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > 2. ROBERT2 LOVELESS (JOHN1) was born 08 January 1633/34 in Hermitage, > Dorset, England, and died 12 December 1700 in Hermitage, Dorset, England. He > married (1) SARAH. She died 1681. He married (2) UNKNOWN. > > Notes for ROBERT LOVELESS: > > Christening recorded in BVRI > > LOVELACE, Robert Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 8 Jan 1634 Recorded in: Hermitage, Dorset, England > > Father: John LOVELACE > > Mother: Joane > > Source: FHL Number 1279500 Dates: 1605-1880 > > > Children of ROBERT LOVELESS and UNKNOWN are: > > i. SARAH3 LOVELESS, b. 1660; d. 1681, Leigh, Dorset, England. > > ii. ANDREW LOVELESS, b. 1665, Leigh, Dorset, England; d. 02 July 1695, > Leigh, Dorset, England. > > iii. JOSHUA LOVELESS, b. 1683, Leigh, Dorset, England; d. 1744. > > > > 3. JAMES2 LOVELESS (JOHN1) was born 1645 in Hermitage, Dorset, England. He > married UNKNOWN. > > > Children of JAMES LOVELESS and UNKNOWN are: > > i. JOHN3 LOVELESS, b. 1676, Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > Notes for JOHN LOVELESS: > > Presumably twin. > > ii. ANN LOVELESS, b. 1676, Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > Notes for ANN LOVELESS: > > Presumably twin. Maybe born at beginning of 1677 > > > > 4. HUMPHREY2 LOVELESS (JOHN1) was born 1647 in Hermitage, Dorset, England. > He married UNKNOWN. > > > Child of HUMPHREY LOVELESS and UNKNOWN is: > > i. JOHN3 LOVELESS, b. 1676, Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > > > 5. THOMAS2 LOVELESS (JOHN1) was born 1650 in Hermitage, Dorset, England. He > married MARY. She died 30 July 1709 in Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > > Children of THOMAS LOVELESS and MARY are: > > i. MARGARET3 LOVELESS, b. 1674, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > 6. ii. THOMAS LOVELESS, b. 1676, Buckland Newton, Berkshire, England. > > iii. MARY LOVELESS, b. 1678, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > iv. EDITH LOVELESS, b. 1679, Hermitage, Dorset, England; d. 1690, > Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > v. JOHN LOVELESS, b. 03 October 1679, Yetminster, Dorset, England; d. 1690, > Yetminster, Dorset, England. > > vi. HANNAH LOVELESS, b. 1683, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > vii. JOAN LOVELESS, b. 1693, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > viii. BETTY LOVELESS, b. 14 January 1701/02, Hermitage, Dorset, England. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > 6. THOMAS3 LOVELESS (THOMAS2, JOHN1) was born 1676 in Buckland Newton, > Berkshire, England. He married (1) HESTER HUTCHINS 06 April 1702. He married > (2) MARGARET DAVIS 06 April 1713 in Buckland Newton, Berkshire, England. She > was born 1695 in Buckland Newton, Berkshire, England. > > Notes for THOMAS LOVELESS: > > Info taken from Martys Family Tree sent by Michael Cromey-Hawke. > > Notes for MARGARET DAVIS: > > Information taken from gedcom for Martys Family by Michael Cromey-Hawke. > > > Children of THOMAS LOVELESS and MARGARET DAVIS are: > > 7. i. JAMES4 LOVELESS, b. 1724. > > 8. ii. JOHN LOVELESS, b. 1731, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; d. 1781. > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > 7. JAMES4 LOVELESS (THOMAS3, THOMAS2, JOHN1) was born 1724. He married (1) > MARY COBB. He married (2) CHRISTIAN SYMES 11 September 1751 in Tolpuddle, > Dorset, England. She died 1756. He married (3) SARAH HUGHES 13 April 1757 in > Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. She died 1760. He married (4) BETTY DOVER 12 > April 1762 in Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. She died 1771. > > Notes for JAMES LOVELESS: > > Info supplied by gedcom of Martyrs family sent by Michael Cromey-Hawke > > Marriage Notes for JAMES LOVELESS and CHRISTIAN SYMES: > > Marriage recorded in Tolpuddle Parish Register > > September 11, 1751 - James Loveless & Christian Symes - Married. > > Marriage Notes for JAMES LOVELESS and SARAH HUGHES: > > Witnesses - Henry Slade and Leonard Coish > > Marriage Notes for JAMES LOVELESS and BETTY DOVER: > > Witnesses - James Bullen and Leonard Coish > > > Children of JAMES LOVELESS and MARY COBB are: > > i. ALICE5 LOVELESS, b. 1778. > > ii. JOHN LOVELESS, b. 1782. > > > Children of JAMES LOVELESS and CHRISTIAN SYMES are: > > iii. BETTY5 LOVELESS, b. 1753, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; m. JOHN VYE, 28 > November 1775, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. > > Notes for BETTY LOVELESS: > > LOVELESS, Betty Christening > > Gender: Female > > Christening Date: 9 Sep 1753 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELESS > > Mother: Christian > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > > > Marriage Notes for BETTY LOVELESS and JOHN VYE: > > Witnesses - Thos. Masters and Ann Galton > > iv. MARY LOVELESS, b. 1755, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; d. 1755. > > Notes for MARY LOVELESS: > > LOVELESS, Mary Christening > > Gender: Female > > Christening Date: 20 Jul 1755 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELESS > > Mother: Christian > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > Baptism recorded in Tolpuddle Parish Register > > July 20, 1755 - Mary, daughter of - James & Christian Loveless - baptisted > > > Children of JAMES LOVELESS and SARAH HUGHES are: > > v. JAMES5 LOVELESS, b. 1757, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. > > Notes for JAMES LOVELESS: > > LOVELESS, James Christening > > Gender: Male > > Christening Date: 3 Feb 1757 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELESS > > Mother: Sarah > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > vi. SARAH LOVELESS, b. 1760, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; d. 04 July 1762, > Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. > > Notes for SARAH LOVELESS: > > LOVELESS, Sarah Christening > > Gender: Female > > Christening Date: 21 Nov 1760 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELESS > > Mother: Sarah > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > > > Sarah, daughter of James Loveless buried July 4, 1762 at Tolpuddle, Dorset. > > > Children of JAMES LOVELESS and BETTY DOVER are: > > vii. JAMES5 LOVELESS, b. 1763; d. 1763. > > Notes for JAMES LOVELESS: > > LOVELESS, James Christening > > Gender: Male > > Christening Date: 3 Jun 1763 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELESS > > Mother: Betty > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > > > viii. JENNY LOVELESS, b. 1769, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; d. 1769. > > Notes for JENNY LOVELESS: > > LOVELASS, Jenney Christening > > Gender: Female > > Christening Date: 7 May 1769 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELASS > > Mother: Betty > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > ix. JENNY LOVELESS, b. 1770, Tolpuddle, Dorset, England; d. 1771. > > Notes for JENNY LOVELESS: > > LOVELASS, Jenny Christening > > Gender: Female > > Christening Date: 3 Apr 1771 Recorded in: Tolpuddle, Dorset, England > > Father: James LOVELASS > > Mother: Betty > > Source: FHL Film 1239251 Dates: 1739 - 1775 > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol&brian" <brecas@dnet.net.au> > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:16 AM > Subject: Re: [TOL] The Leigh Loveless Clan > > > > Hi Dawn, > > Any chance of getting a look at some of that tree? John of Hermitage and > > his sons?? perhaps it has been posted before but I have never heard of > this > > one and the relationship with the TMs, would be very interested to see the > > lines from Robert and thomas. Thanks, Cheers, Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PAUL STEWART" <hudrud03@btinternet.com> > > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:16 AM > > Subject: [TOL] The Leigh Loveless Clan > > > > > > > Hello Ann and Everyone; > > > > > > I had hoped that Michael Cromey-Hawke would come on List to tell you > about > > these folk as they are from his wife's tree. (If you are still on List > > Michael - greetings & hope life is treating you well). I haven't checked > > all the details right back for myself but I'm sure Michael's findings are > > accurate as he put in a great deal of work to trace this line. You may > have > > a copy Donna. > > > > > > The good news for you Ann is that, yes, there is a connection from your > > Elizabeth b 1867 to George & James Loveless. I'm not awfully hot at > working > > out relationships but, I think, she was something like their 4th cousin > > twice removed! Her line goes back up to John of Hermitage whose date of > > birth is a bit open to question and he had 2 sons Thomas bc1650 ( TM James > & > > George's line & our line Donna) and Robert bc 1634 which is Elizabeth's > > line. > > > > > > Hope this makes your day Ann and it looks as if we have another new > cousin > > Donna (Hello Mr. Matthews) but please don't even think of asking me to > work > > out exactly how!!!! > > > > > > Cheers > > > Dawn Stewart > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > >

Donna this funny really cheered me up today. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: [TOL] Fw: Funny things kids say in the classroom > Message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > -----> > > > >TEACHER : Maria, go to the map and find North America. > > > >MARIA : Here it is! > > > >TEACHER : Correct. Now class, who discovered America? > > > >CLASS : Maria! > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >TEACHER : Why are you late, Frank? > > > >FRANK : Because of the sign. > > > >TEACHER : What sign? > > > >FRANK : The one that says, "School Ahead, Go Slow." > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER: John, why are you doing your math multiplication on the floor? > > > >JOHN : You told me to do it without using tables! > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >TEACHER : Glenn, how do you spell "crocodile?" > > > >GLENN : K-R-O-K-O-D-A-I-L" > > > >TEACHER : No, that's wrong > > > >GLENN : Maybe it s wrong, but you asked me how I spell it! > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Donald, what is the chemical formula for water? > > > >DONALD : H I J K L M N O!! > > > >TEACHER : What are you talking about? > > > >DONALD : Yesterday you said it's H to O! > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >TEACHER : Winnie, name one important thing we have today that we > > >didn't have ten years ago. > > > >WINNIE : Me! > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Goss, why do you always get so dirty? > > > >GOSS : Well, I'm a lot closer to the ground than you are. > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Millie, give me a sentence starting with "I." > > > >MILLIE : I is... > > > >TEACHER : No, Millie..... Always say, "I am." > > > >MILLIE : All right... "I am the ninth letter of the alphabet." > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Can anybody give an example of COINCIDENCE? > > > >TINO: Sir, my Mother and Father got married on the same day, same time." > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER: George Washington not only chopped down his father's cherry > > > > tree, but also admitted doing it. Now, Louie, do you know why his father > > >didn't punish him?" > > > >LOUIS : Because George still had the ax in his hand. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Now, Simon, tell me frankly, do you say prayers before > > >eating? > > > >SIMON : No sir, I don't have to, my Mom is a good cook. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Clyde, your composition on "My Dog" is exactly the same as > > >your brother's. Did you copy his? > > > >CLYDE : No sir, it's the same dog!; > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Harold, what do you call a person who keeps on talking when > > >people are no longer interested? > > > >HAROLD : A teacher. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hi Dawn, Any chance of getting a look at some of that tree? John of Hermitage and his sons?? perhaps it has been posted before but I have never heard of this one and the relationship with the TMs, would be very interested to see the lines from Robert and thomas. Thanks, Cheers, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL STEWART" <hudrud03@btinternet.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:16 AM Subject: [TOL] The Leigh Loveless Clan > Hello Ann and Everyone; > > I had hoped that Michael Cromey-Hawke would come on List to tell you about these folk as they are from his wife's tree. (If you are still on List Michael - greetings & hope life is treating you well). I haven't checked all the details right back for myself but I'm sure Michael's findings are accurate as he put in a great deal of work to trace this line. You may have a copy Donna. > > The good news for you Ann is that, yes, there is a connection from your Elizabeth b 1867 to George & James Loveless. I'm not awfully hot at working out relationships but, I think, she was something like their 4th cousin twice removed! Her line goes back up to John of Hermitage whose date of birth is a bit open to question and he had 2 sons Thomas bc1650 ( TM James & George's line & our line Donna) and Robert bc 1634 which is Elizabeth's line. > > Hope this makes your day Ann and it looks as if we have another new cousin Donna (Hello Mr. Matthews) but please don't even think of asking me to work out exactly how!!!! > > Cheers > Dawn Stewart > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hi all I am tracing my Pearse line in Tolpuddle/Southover/Affpuddle areas. Looking for death/burial details of John Pearce (alive Southover 1776) and wife Hannah/Anna Regards Sally McMahon

Hello Ann and Everyone; I had hoped that Michael Cromey-Hawke would come on List to tell you about these folk as they are from his wife's tree. (If you are still on List Michael - greetings & hope life is treating you well). I haven't checked all the details right back for myself but I'm sure Michael's findings are accurate as he put in a great deal of work to trace this line. You may have a copy Donna. The good news for you Ann is that, yes, there is a connection from your Elizabeth b 1867 to George & James Loveless. I'm not awfully hot at working out relationships but, I think, she was something like their 4th cousin twice removed! Her line goes back up to John of Hermitage whose date of birth is a bit open to question and he had 2 sons Thomas bc1650 ( TM James & George's line & our line Donna) and Robert bc 1634 which is Elizabeth's line. Hope this makes your day Ann and it looks as if we have another new cousin Donna (Hello Mr. Matthews) but please don't even think of asking me to work out exactly how!!!! Cheers Dawn Stewart

Dawn - thank you for your email. Yes, Michael Cromey-Hawke did send me a copy of the family tree as he had researched it. It probably somewhere here in my dungeon. Dawn - reference Fordington. What exactly are you looking for. I can send you what I have on CDs for the parish. Let me know. Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL STEWART" <hudrud03@btinternet.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: [TOL] The Leigh Loveless Clan > Hello Ann and Everyone; > > I had hoped that Michael Cromey-Hawke would come on List to tell you about these folk as they are from his wife's tree. (If you are still on List Michael - greetings & hope life is treating you well). I haven't checked all the details right back for myself but I'm sure Michael's findings are accurate as he put in a great deal of work to trace this line. You may have a copy Donna. > > The good news for you Ann is that, yes, there is a connection from your Elizabeth b 1867 to George & James Loveless. I'm not awfully hot at working out relationships but, I think, she was something like their 4th cousin twice removed! Her line goes back up to John of Hermitage whose date of birth is a bit open to question and he had 2 sons Thomas bc1650 ( TM James & George's line & our line Donna) and Robert bc 1634 which is Elizabeth's line. > > Hope this makes your day Ann and it looks as if we have another new cousin Donna (Hello Mr. Matthews) but please don't even think of asking me to work out exactly how!!!! > > Cheers > Dawn Stewart > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----> > >TEACHER : Maria, go to the map and find North America. > >MARIA : Here it is! > >TEACHER : Correct. Now class, who discovered America? > >CLASS : Maria! > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Why are you late, Frank? > >FRANK : Because of the sign. > >TEACHER : What sign? > >FRANK : The one that says, "School Ahead, Go Slow." > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER: John, why are you doing your math multiplication on the floor? > >JOHN : You told me to do it without using tables! > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Glenn, how do you spell "crocodile?" > >GLENN : K-R-O-K-O-D-A-I-L" > >TEACHER : No, that's wrong > >GLENN : Maybe it s wrong, but you asked me how I spell it! > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Donald, what is the chemical formula for water? > >DONALD : H I J K L M N O!! > >TEACHER : What are you talking about? > >DONALD : Yesterday you said it's H to O! > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >TEACHER : Winnie, name one important thing we have today that we >didn't have ten years ago. > >WINNIE : Me! > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Goss, why do you always get so dirty? > >GOSS : Well, I'm a lot closer to the ground than you are. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Millie, give me a sentence starting with "I." > >MILLIE : I is... > >TEACHER : No, Millie..... Always say, "I am." > >MILLIE : All right... "I am the ninth letter of the alphabet." > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Can anybody give an example of COINCIDENCE? > >TINO: Sir, my Mother and Father got married on the same day, same time." > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER: George Washington not only chopped down his father's cherry > > tree, but also admitted doing it. Now, Louie, do you know why his father >didn't punish him?" > >LOUIS : Because George still had the ax in his hand. > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Now, Simon, tell me frankly, do you say prayers before >eating? > >SIMON : No sir, I don't have to, my Mom is a good cook. > > ___________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Clyde, your composition on "My Dog" is exactly the same as >your brother's. Did you copy his? > >CLYDE : No sir, it's the same dog!; > > __________________________________________________________ > >TEACHER : Harold, what do you call a person who keeps on talking when >people are no longer interested? > >HAROLD : A teacher. > > _____ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi all, I will put my Matthews into the equation here, a long shot I know. I have Elizabeth Mathews marrying my ancestor, Thomas Loveless in 1787. Her parents were Abigail and Benjamin Mathews from Dorset. Betty and Thomas married in Long Bredy, Dorset, I have nothing further on Benjamin and Abigail at present although I believe there is more to be found on the IGI concerning this family. I haven't found a direct link with Toldpuddle Martyrs although my brother is direct male line through the Dorset Loveless family and am hoping he will contribute to the DNA testing. Donna/Greg I know info was sent to me before Chrsitmas re. this DNA testing in Canada, which 2 'collapsed' computers in our family managed to lose. Any chance of a re-send?? If I find anything further on my Matthews line I will post. Cheers, Carol PS How are you Irene?? Did you ever get my card and email over Christmas?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <AASWEEP@aol.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [TOL] LOVELESS in Hampshire > Hi. > My husband has always been told that he was related to one of > the Tolpuddle Martyrs --but we cannot find the connection. > His father was Reginald Matthews (b.1905) > He married Kathleen Watts > His grandfather was Thomas Matthews,he married Elizabeth Loveless(b.9/4/1867) > Her father was William Loveless( b.1829---parish clerk Leigh,dorset). > He married Judith Jeans (b. 1827).The father of William was Joshua > Loveless,(b.1791-d.1865.he was parish clerk 1841 census) > He married Ann(b.1796-d.1852). > If anyone could make a connection with a Tolpuddle Martyr ,that would be > great! > Ann Matthews. > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Martin - hope that you have success on the 1837 online although I found it not too useful as it doesn't give much information. There is no way to tell whether you have the reference for the right birth etc. Too easy to end up with the wrong certificate. I'm not sure if Ann's William is related. Elizabeth born 1837 was born in Leigh, Dorset. I have just done a search on the British Isles Vital Records Index Second Edition and I was not able to find a christening for William Henry Loveless born circa 1854 or William Henry Loveless born circa 1876. Nor was I able to find a christening for Mary G. Loveless born circa 1880. Now although they don't show up on the CD doesn't meant that the records don't exist. Good luck, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: [TOL] Re: LOVELESS in Hamshire > Hi Donna & all: > > Thanks for your kind offer to look up William Henry through 1837online, > unfortunate that you were unable to so so. I am sure there are other > subscribers who can do this lookup for me, perhaps on a > Hampshire-related list. > > As to William's parents, since I haven't been able to find out when he > was born, exactly, although the marriage register may provide the name > of his father and possibly his occupation, another case where I do have > the marriage register information has not resulted in any further > success - this is in the GILES family, where Sarah J GILES (b. St. > Albans, Herts.) married another Dorset-related Robert Joice SQUIRE (I > have his baptism from the Winterborne Zelston OPC), but though Sarah's > father George and his occupation were shown in the marriage register, > the earlier censuses have not turned up any additional information. I > suspect that William Henry's father may well have been another William > Henry (if the V in his grandson's name is a Roman 5, for example) though > by no means the only possibility. > > Could Ann's William b. 1829 be related? Where was Elizabeth b. 1867 born? > > Regards to all > Martin Willcocks > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hello Everyone, I have recently been in touch with a distant cousin who is fairly sure that Alfred was born in 1874 but his mother Fanny Pearce didn't marry James (the policeman) Loveless (1854-1926 s/o Stephen Loveless & Elizabeth Hammett) until 2 years later so I suppose his birth could have been registered as Alfred Pearce. Apparently Alfred never married and spent his life as a 'Gentleman of the Road' so I don't suppose he filled in too many census returns.................... Cheers Dawn Kevin McMahon <kevin@emmcmahon.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: Hi List and a Happy New Year. I am looking for birth date/quarter details of Alfred Loveless, son of James. 1881 census says born circ 1874 Briantspuddle, but I cannot find this in the birth fiche. Also cannot find him in 1901 and he is not with his family who are in Bolton. Regards Sally ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

Hi Donna & all: Thanks for your kind offer to look up William Henry through 1837online, unfortunate that you were unable to so so. I am sure there are other subscribers who can do this lookup for me, perhaps on a Hampshire-related list. As to William's parents, since I haven't been able to find out when he was born, exactly, although the marriage register may provide the name of his father and possibly his occupation, another case where I do have the marriage register information has not resulted in any further success - this is in the GILES family, where Sarah J GILES (b. St. Albans, Herts.) married another Dorset-related Robert Joice SQUIRE (I have his baptism from the Winterborne Zelston OPC), but though Sarah's father George and his occupation were shown in the marriage register, the earlier censuses have not turned up any additional information. I suspect that William Henry's father may well have been another William Henry (if the V in his grandson's name is a Roman 5, for example) though by no means the only possibility. Could Ann's William b. 1829 be related? Where was Elizabeth b. 1867 born? Regards to all Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.