Hello all. Lorraine Standfield has more information on the Tolpuddle Martyrs to share with us. Lorraine would also like to know if someone has a copy of George Loveless's writings on the Tolpuddle Martyrs. It is perhaps called "Victims of Whiggery" or "Tolpuddle: An account through the eyes of George Loveless" or even something quite different. Cheers, Donna > > > The Tolpuddle Martyrs Story > Also known as The Dorchester Labourers. > > Tolpuddle (also called Tolpuddell and Tolpiddle) is a village and parish on > the River Trent or Piddle; it is 7 miles north-east from Dorchester. These > days it is famous for being the birthplace of the Tolpuddle Martyrs. > > Between 1770 and 1830, enclosures changed the English rural > landscape forever. Landowners annexed vast acreages, producing even greater > wealth from the small hedged fields. Peasants no longer had plots to grow > vegetables nor open commons for grazing their one cow or sheep and pigs. > > Diet was basic - tea, bread and potatoes. As a result, the people > were badly nourished and small. Low wages reduced families to starvation > level unless they could be supplemented by working wives and children. > > The labourers at Tolpuddle lived in meagre poverty on just 7 > shillings a week and wanted an increase to 10 shillings (A$1 in today's > money), but instead the wages were cut to 6 shillings a week. > > At the turn of the 19th century high corn prices and low > labourers' wages led to several years of unrest, with incidents of rural > sabotage and numerous uprisings. The Swing Riots with their brutal > punishments in the early 1830s was still fresh in people's memories, and the > men were determined to fight for their cause peacefully. > > The Whig government [which came into being after 1688 & by the > 19th C. was the Liberal Party] had become alarmed at the working class > discontent in the country at this time. The government and the landowners, > led by James Frampton, were determined to squash the society and to control > increasing outbreaks of dissent. > > Six of the Tolpuddle labourers: George and James Loveless, James > Brine, James Hammett, Thomas Standfield and his son John were arrested at > dawn on February 24 1834 - their crime being that they had created a "The > Friendly Society of Agricultural Workers", and had participated in the > taking of illegal oaths in an upper room of Thomas Standfield's cottage. The > group held a somewhat bizarre initiation rite based on a 14th century wool > combers' ceremony. The ceremony also included a solemn oath of brotherhood > and the intention of fighting for better wages. > > Although Trade Unions had been declared legal in England since > 1824 the six men were charged under the preamble to the 1797 Mutiny and > Seditions Act, which declared that anyone administering a secret oath was > committing an illegal act. This 1797 Act was intended to prevent mutiny in > the Royal Navy! > > It was George Loveless who was the leader and it was he who > established the Tolpuddle Friendly Society of Agricultural Workers. As well > as leader of the Society, he was also a Dissenter, following Wesley's > Methodism, as did his brother and the Standfields. He was a Lay Preacher, > and knew about the law. > > At their [2 day] trial at Dorchester Assizes on 17th March the > judge, Mr. Baron Williams, was openly hostile and informed a carefully > chosen jury before the proceedings began, that trade unions and everything > about them was evil. The two-day trial was a farce - with an obviously > pre-determined verdict and the six men were found guilty of administering > the secret oaths. Two local labourers, John Lock and Edward Legg, gave > evidence against them. [I believe at least one of them took the oath.] > > In March [18th]1834 the labourers were sentenced to 7 years > transportation to the penal colonies of New South Wales and Van Diemen's > Land [Now Tasmania] in Australia for their activities. > > The harshness and injustice of their treatment caused massive > public outcry. On 21st April 1834, one month after the trial many public > protest meetings were held and there was uproar throughout the country at > this sentence; so the prisoners were hastily transported to Australia > without delay, shackled to thieves and murderers in convict ships- with six > convicts to a space of about 5'6" square. > > The people were incensed at this treatment, and after 250,000 > people signed a petition a procession of 30,000 people marched down > Whitehall to present the petition to the home secretary, Lord Melbourne, in > support of the labourers. He refused to accept it. > > Mounting public pressure at home, led by reformers eventually > resulted in King William IV granting the Martyrs a royal pardon. The > sentences were remitted. > > On the 14th March 1836, Melbourne's successor, the enlightened > and liberal-minded Lord John Russell, announced to Parliament that free > pardons had been granted to all six men. Due to distance and delay in > Australia, George Loveless did not return to England until the 13th June > 1837. James Loveless, James Brine and Thomas and John Stanfield came home on > the 16th March 1838 and James Hammett some time in August 1839. > > To make amends to those who were soon dubbed the Tolpuddle > Martyrs, farms had been purchased for them in Essex from a public fund, the > Dorchester Labourers' Farm Tribute. However, these brought them neither > peace nor satisfaction. Mud had been slung and it stuck. > > The neighbours were antagonistic, regarding the Tolpuddle six as > convicts, indelibly stamped with the taint of a criminal past. More > importantly, their names sprang first to reactionary minds whenever some > hint of unrest occurred in the vicinity. Worse still, the Loveless family > were linked to the latest threat to the 'ideal' unchanging society, the > Chartist Movement, which sought to secure the right to vote for every man, > however humble. > > In 1844, disgusted with the notoriety and the pointing fingers, > all the men except James Hammett emigrated to London, Ontario, Canada where > they bought land and prospered. John Standfield eventually became the Mayor > of his district. James Brine married Elizabeth, John Standfield's sister > in1839. Their descendents live there today and the name of Tolpuddle is > remembered in several local organisations. The émigrés all wrote about their > experiences. [Does anyone know if they did?] > > Only one of the six, James Hammett, settled again in Tolpuddle, > where he died in 1891. His grave is in the churchyard. > > The tree under which the 'martyrs' met is now very old and > reduced to a stump, but it has become a place of pilgrimage in Tolpuddle, > where it is known as the 'Martyrs Tree'. > > The wealthy London draper Sir Ernest Debenham erected a > commemorative seat and shelter in 1934 on the green. > > An annual festival is held in Tolpuddle, organised by the Trades > Union Congress (TUC), featuring a parade of banners from many trade unions, > a memorial service, speeches and music. Recent festivals have featured > speakers such as Tony Benn and musicians such as Billy Bragg [singer], as > well as others from all around the world. The festival is usually held in > the third week of July. > > > > > > More to follow

hi all my understanding was that Tolpuddle boys were expected to work for 6 shillings a week, and it was this that spurred it all on. In 1830 the labourer's wages were nine, then eight, and seven until 1834 the threat of six being introduced. Since 1824 unions alone were not illegal, but the Mutiny Act of 1797 forbad the taking of unlawful oaths, and this is where they were trapped. Cheers from sunny and warm (for once) West London, England. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: [TOL] MARCH 18, 1834 > Hello all. I was forwarded this by Greg Lovelace, and it concerns our own > Tolpuddle Martyrs. I will never look at the day after St Patricks Day the > same way anymore. > > Donna > > > >Subject: March 18, 1834 > > > > > >1834 Tolpuddle Martyrs banished to Australia > > >In England, six English agricultural laborers are sentenced to seven > years of > > > banishment to Australia's New South Wales penal colony for their trade > > > union > > > activities. > > >In 1833, after several years of reductions in their agricultural wages, a > > >group of workers in Tolpuddle, a small village east of Dorchester, > England, > > >formed the Friendly Society of Agricultural Labourers. Led by George > > >Loveless, a > > >farm laborer, the union rapidly grew in the area, and it was agreed that > the > > >men would not accept work for less than 10 shillings a week. With the > urging > > >of the British government, which feared a repetition of the rural unrest > of > > >1830, local authorities arrested Loveless and five others on charges of > > >taking > > >an unlawful oath, citing an outdated law that had been passed in the > late > > >18th century to deal with naval mutiny. In March 1834, these six men, > > >including > > >one who had never taken the oath, were sentenced to seven years > imprisonment > > >at an Australian penal colony. > > >Public reaction throughout the country made the six into popular heroes, > and > > >in 1836, after continual agitation, the sentence against the so-called > > >"Tolpuddle Martyrs" was finally remitted. Only one of the six returned to > > >Tolpuddle; the rest emigrated to Canada, where one Tolpuddle Martyr--John > > >Standfield--became mayor of his district. The popular movement > surrounding > > >the Tolpuddle > > >controversy is generally regarded as the beginning of trade unionism in > > >Great Britain. > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > >

Hello all. I was forwarded this by Greg Lovelace, and it concerns our own Tolpuddle Martyrs. I will never look at the day after St Patricks Day the same way anymore. Donna > >Subject: March 18, 1834 > > > >1834 Tolpuddle Martyrs banished to Australia > >In England, six English agricultural laborers are sentenced to seven years of > > banishment to Australia's New South Wales penal colony for their trade > > union > > activities. > >In 1833, after several years of reductions in their agricultural wages, a > >group of workers in Tolpuddle, a small village east of Dorchester, England, > >formed the Friendly Society of Agricultural Labourers. Led by George > >Loveless, a > >farm laborer, the union rapidly grew in the area, and it was agreed that the > >men would not accept work for less than 10 shillings a week. With the urging > >of the British government, which feared a repetition of the rural unrest of > >1830, local authorities arrested Loveless and five others on charges of > >taking > >an unlawful oath, citing an outdated law that had been passed in the late > >18th century to deal with naval mutiny. In March 1834, these six men, > >including > >one who had never taken the oath, were sentenced to seven years imprisonment > >at an Australian penal colony. > >Public reaction throughout the country made the six into popular heroes, and > >in 1836, after continual agitation, the sentence against the so-called > >"Tolpuddle Martyrs" was finally remitted. Only one of the six returned to > >Tolpuddle; the rest emigrated to Canada, where one Tolpuddle Martyr--John > >Standfield--became mayor of his district. The popular movement surrounding > >the Tolpuddle > >controversy is generally regarded as the beginning of trade unionism in > >Great Britain. > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >

Good day all. That time has come again when it is necessary to review the Researcher's Interests on the Tolpuddle website. Please check out our website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs Please send me an email if you wish to have your research interests amended or deleted. Please send me an email if you wish to have your research interests added to the list. I have already checked out at least one email address and that email wasn't valid and that person is no longer subcribed to the list. I created the website but have said time and time again that it is a website for the list. I known some html for websites but what I know has been self taught. If there is anyone out there that has some ideas and our time to help design the website please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned. Take care, Donna King emily04@rogers.com

Hi All Has anyone come across the parents of a Bartholomue/Bartholomew Gale born 1823 Fordington? Believe his wife and daughter there in 1851. Wanted to know who his parents were. Regards Sally

Chris - Welcome to the Tolpuddle Mailing List. My name is Donna King and I'm the List Manager. The Tolpuddle List was originally created for the research of the LOVELESS/LOVELACE surname in Canada, England and Australia. It has since then evolved to include all the surnames that married into the LOVELESS/LOVELACE family and for the research of the Tolpuddle Matryrs. Funnies are allowed on this list. Check out our website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs Please send me an email if you wish to have your research interests added to the list. Feel free to post your research interests to list as soon as you feel comfortable. I believe that you will find that the people on this list are very helpful and friendly. We all love a mystery, the harder the thread to untangle the better. Once again welcome, Donna King emily04@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Talbot" <Chris@CrownPhoto.co.uk> To: <tolpuddle-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: subscribe > > >

Hi all: I have been following this thread, but my William Henry LOVELESS married Mary Jane MAY, my great-aunt, in Portsea, which seems to have nothing to do with the Tolpuddle lot. If the tentative genealogy I have is correct, his father and grandfather were both named William and lived in the Portsea area, and this gives some plausibility to his grandson being William Henry V LOVELESS, there being five successive generations of William LOVELESS in the same family (who knows if they all had a middle name Henry?) Three of them certainly were William Henry. It's just that nobody seems to have connections to these folks, and if there is a Tolpuddle connection it has to be before the early nineteenth century. I hope _someone_ will be able to trace thier LOVELESS roots back to Hampshire, instead of Dorset! Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Thanks Donna The only other thing I found is this baptism Hannah Pierce bapt 11 May 1804. Tolpuddle. Father (no mention) Mother- Hannah Pierce Fair guess is that this is our girl. Will keep looking, however my work week has started and therefore I won't get much time now till the weekend. Toodles for now Irene -----Original Message----- From: Donna King [mailto:emily04@rogers.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:00 AM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census Irene - YOU GO GIRL!!!. All I have is William and Hannah's marriage in 1831 in Tincleton, Dorset. Witnesses - John Loveless & Thomas House LOVELESS, William Marriage Wife: Hannah PIERCE Marriage Date: 1 May 1831 Recorded in: Tincleton, Dorset, England Source: FHL Number 1239251 Dates: 1733-1847 Yes, my descendancy chart says that they are 1st cousins once removed. I have just checked my index for the 1851 Census for Tincleton, Dorset and they are not listed, nor are they listed in Tolpuddle. I was going to check the 1861 census for Dorset but I doubt that they would be there. Does anyone have earlier censuses for Hampshire? Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eye" <eye22@bigpond.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > Hi there gang, Donna and Martin who this might interest. > > Whilst having a little search today for someone's Loveless's for a > friend I came across this entry in the 1881 census. > > William Lovless (yes spelt Lovless) Head M Male. Age 74. > Born- Tolpuddle Dorset . Chapel Keeper and Local Methodist Preacher. > Hannah Lovless Wife M Female. Age 76. > Born- Southover Dorset. > > Dwelling- Holme Cott Victoria Rd > Census Place- Christchurch Hampshire England. > > > William is the great grandson of John Loveless and Thomasina Gould, > grandson of William Loveless and Judith Hibbs, son of William Loveless > and Jane Hoare all of Tolpuddle. > Therefore cousin to the Tolpuddle Martyrs, please correct me if I am > wrong Donna, its been awhile:-) > > Married Hannah Pierce on 1 May 1831 at Tincleton Dorset. > Witnesses at the marriage are John Loveless and Thomas House > > I don't seem to have the family of William and Hannah and am wondering > how long they had been in Hampshire, perhaps Martin this is your > connection. > I must admit that I have not looked at my Loveless families for along > time so perhaps I do have the children of William and Hannah. > Another search begins:-)) > > Must go and get out of my dressing gown, its lunch time and these > Loveless's have had me enthralled all morning. > > Has anyone anything to add to make my search easy:-)) > > Toodles for now > Irene > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McMahon" <kevin@emmcmahon.fsnet.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > This is very exciting, I have Pierce/Pearse from Southover. Do we know who > the father of Hannah was? I think she might be Hannah Pierce bapt 11/5/1804 > Tolpuddle (Southover came under this parish) mother Jane. She could be an > unmarried mother or wife of Richard Pearce who had son Charles bapt > 28/4/1802, and poss known as Jenny Hoare who wed Richard Pearce 1790. 1804 > Richard was a diaryman at Southover with 4 females and 4 males in household. > What would be the connection between my line of James Pearse bapt 1755, > father John and Richard/Jane Hoare daugter Hannah? > > Regards > > Sally > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > > > > Irene - YOU GO GIRL!!!. All I have is William and Hannah's marriage in > > 1831 in Tincleton, Dorset. > > > > Witnesses - John Loveless & Thomas House > > > > LOVELESS, William Marriage > > Wife: Hannah PIERCE > > Marriage Date: 1 May 1831 Recorded in: Tincleton, Dorset, England > > Source: FHL Number 1239251 Dates: 1733-1847 > > > > Yes, my descendancy chart says that they are 1st cousins once removed. > > > > I have just checked my index for the 1851 Census for Tincleton, Dorset and > > they are not listed, nor are they listed in Tolpuddle. I was going to > check > > the 1861 census for Dorset but I doubt that they would be there. > > > > Does anyone have earlier censuses for Hampshire? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eye" <eye22@bigpond.com> > > To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:02 PM > > Subject: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > > > > > > > Hi there gang, Donna and Martin who this might interest. > > > > > > Whilst having a little search today for someone's Loveless's for a > > > friend I came across this entry in the 1881 census. > > > > > > William Lovless (yes spelt Lovless) Head M Male. Age 74. > > > Born- Tolpuddle Dorset . Chapel Keeper and Local Methodist Preacher. > > > Hannah Lovless Wife M Female. Age 76. > > > Born- Southover Dorset. > > > > > > Dwelling- Holme Cott Victoria Rd > > > Census Place- Christchurch Hampshire England. > > > > > > > > > William is the great grandson of John Loveless and Thomasina Gould, > > > grandson of William Loveless and Judith Hibbs, son of William Loveless > > > and Jane Hoare all of Tolpuddle. > > > Therefore cousin to the Tolpuddle Martyrs, please correct me if I am > > > wrong Donna, its been awhile:-) > > > > > > Married Hannah Pierce on 1 May 1831 at Tincleton Dorset. > > > Witnesses at the marriage are John Loveless and Thomas House > > > > > > I don't seem to have the family of William and Hannah and am wondering > > > how long they had been in Hampshire, perhaps Martin this is your > > > connection. > > > I must admit that I have not looked at my Loveless families for along > > > time so perhaps I do have the children of William and Hannah. > > > Another search begins:-)) > > > > > > Must go and get out of my dressing gown, its lunch time and these > > > Loveless's have had me enthralled all morning. > > > > > > Has anyone anything to add to make my search easy:-)) > > > > > > Toodles for now > > > Irene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > > > > > > >

Irene - I have just searched all the baptisms, burials, marriages etc that Jo researched for us a long time ago and no baptisms of children for Hannah and William Loveless. Of course these lists are primarily for parishes in and around Tolpuddle and dates mostly from 1838 - 1996. I will check my LDS CDs later today to see if I can find any births for Hannah and William perhaps in Hampshire. Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eye" <eye22@bigpond.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > Hi there gang, Donna and Martin who this might interest. > > Whilst having a little search today for someone's Loveless's for a > friend I came across this entry in the 1881 census. > > William Lovless (yes spelt Lovless) Head M Male. Age 74. > Born- Tolpuddle Dorset . Chapel Keeper and Local Methodist Preacher. > Hannah Lovless Wife M Female. Age 76. > Born- Southover Dorset. > > Dwelling- Holme Cott Victoria Rd > Census Place- Christchurch Hampshire England. > > > William is the great grandson of John Loveless and Thomasina Gould, > grandson of William Loveless and Judith Hibbs, son of William Loveless > and Jane Hoare all of Tolpuddle. > Therefore cousin to the Tolpuddle Martyrs, please correct me if I am > wrong Donna, its been awhile:-) > > Married Hannah Pierce on 1 May 1831 at Tincleton Dorset. > Witnesses at the marriage are John Loveless and Thomas House > > I don't seem to have the family of William and Hannah and am wondering > how long they had been in Hampshire, perhaps Martin this is your > connection. > I must admit that I have not looked at my Loveless families for along > time so perhaps I do have the children of William and Hannah. > Another search begins:-)) > > Must go and get out of my dressing gown, its lunch time and these > Loveless's have had me enthralled all morning. > > Has anyone anything to add to make my search easy:-)) > > Toodles for now > Irene > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hi there gang, Donna and Martin who this might interest. Whilst having a little search today for someone's Loveless's for a friend I came across this entry in the 1881 census. William Lovless (yes spelt Lovless) Head M Male. Age 74. Born- Tolpuddle Dorset . Chapel Keeper and Local Methodist Preacher. Hannah Lovless Wife M Female. Age 76. Born- Southover Dorset. Dwelling- Holme Cott Victoria Rd Census Place- Christchurch Hampshire England. William is the great grandson of John Loveless and Thomasina Gould, grandson of William Loveless and Judith Hibbs, son of William Loveless and Jane Hoare all of Tolpuddle. Therefore cousin to the Tolpuddle Martyrs, please correct me if I am wrong Donna, its been awhile:-) Married Hannah Pierce on 1 May 1831 at Tincleton Dorset. Witnesses at the marriage are John Loveless and Thomas House I don't seem to have the family of William and Hannah and am wondering how long they had been in Hampshire, perhaps Martin this is your connection. I must admit that I have not looked at my Loveless families for along time so perhaps I do have the children of William and Hannah. Another search begins:-)) Must go and get out of my dressing gown, its lunch time and these Loveless's have had me enthralled all morning. Has anyone anything to add to make my search easy:-)) Toodles for now Irene

Irene - YOU GO GIRL!!!. All I have is William and Hannah's marriage in 1831 in Tincleton, Dorset. Witnesses - John Loveless & Thomas House LOVELESS, William Marriage Wife: Hannah PIERCE Marriage Date: 1 May 1831 Recorded in: Tincleton, Dorset, England Source: FHL Number 1239251 Dates: 1733-1847 Yes, my descendancy chart says that they are 1st cousins once removed. I have just checked my index for the 1851 Census for Tincleton, Dorset and they are not listed, nor are they listed in Tolpuddle. I was going to check the 1861 census for Dorset but I doubt that they would be there. Does anyone have earlier censuses for Hampshire? Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eye" <eye22@bigpond.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: [TOL] William Loveless in Hampshire in 1881 census > Hi there gang, Donna and Martin who this might interest. > > Whilst having a little search today for someone's Loveless's for a > friend I came across this entry in the 1881 census. > > William Lovless (yes spelt Lovless) Head M Male. Age 74. > Born- Tolpuddle Dorset . Chapel Keeper and Local Methodist Preacher. > Hannah Lovless Wife M Female. Age 76. > Born- Southover Dorset. > > Dwelling- Holme Cott Victoria Rd > Census Place- Christchurch Hampshire England. > > > William is the great grandson of John Loveless and Thomasina Gould, > grandson of William Loveless and Judith Hibbs, son of William Loveless > and Jane Hoare all of Tolpuddle. > Therefore cousin to the Tolpuddle Martyrs, please correct me if I am > wrong Donna, its been awhile:-) > > Married Hannah Pierce on 1 May 1831 at Tincleton Dorset. > Witnesses at the marriage are John Loveless and Thomas House > > I don't seem to have the family of William and Hannah and am wondering > how long they had been in Hampshire, perhaps Martin this is your > connection. > I must admit that I have not looked at my Loveless families for along > time so perhaps I do have the children of William and Hannah. > Another search begins:-)) > > Must go and get out of my dressing gown, its lunch time and these > Loveless's have had me enthralled all morning. > > Has anyone anything to add to make my search easy:-)) > > Toodles for now > Irene > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

What wonderful news Donna, CONGRATULATIONS Granny. Enjoy, I too am jealous but will wait a little longer. And yes what a gorgeous name. Best wishes Irene -----Original Message----- From: Donna King [mailto:emily04@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:30 AM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TOL] NEW GRANDDAUGHTER Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first grandchild: Sierra Donna King born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. Cheers, Donna ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs

Many congratulations - --- grandmere? - sounds so much nicer than grandma, granny or nanny. Beautiful names - especially the middle one. You must feel very happy and proud of yourself - and I am very jealous. Enjoy that baby - as all us 'old' mums know, they grow up so qu..........yes. Regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [TOL] NEW GRANDDAUGHTER > Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first > grandchild: > > Sierra Donna King > born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM > > weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Many congrats. Donna you must be very proud. Best wishes to all concerned! ~Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: [TOL] NEW GRANDDAUGHTER > Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first > grandchild: > > Sierra Donna King > born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM > > weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs >

Congratulations Donna. Cheers Teena -----Original Message----- From: Donna King [mailto:emily04@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:30 AM To: TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TOL] NEW GRANDDAUGHTER Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first grandchild: Sierra Donna King born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. Cheers, Donna ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 7/02/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 7/02/05

Sally - Frederick Loveless descends from Stephen Lovelesse's Uncle William. born 1751 Tolpuddle, Dorset. William's brother John born 1783 was Stephen's father. Frederick Loveless born 1880 Manchester, Lancaster parents are: Thomas and Alison Loveless. Thomas born 1854 Tolpuddle, Dorset and Alison born 1853 Stilton, Cheshire. Thomas Loveless's parents are the same as for my Kate Loveless - William and Ellen. William born 1831 Tolpuddle and Ellen (COSH/CORISH) born Blandford, Dorset. Let me know if you want a copy of the family tree. I warn you now, that I have lost some of the details I had inputted and am in process of restoring my files. I'm not sure about Francis. I don't have a Francis born circa 1890. Will check further. Cheers, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McMahon" <kevin@emmcmahon.fsnet.co.uk> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: [TOL] WW1 Loveless > Hi All > > Does anyone know if > Francis Loveless born circ 1890 Dorset, 1915 living Harewood Leeds, wife Alice, WW1 in Royal Warwick Reg and > Frederick Loveless born circ 1881 Manchester wife Martha, in 1917 living Kearsley, Bolton, Lancs, WW1 in RE > are from the family tree of Elizabeth Hammett and Stephen Loveless? > > Regards > Sally > > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Congratulations to you all, what a lovely start to the New Year. Sally & family in England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna King" <emily04@rogers.com> To: <TOLPUDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: [TOL] NEW GRANDDAUGHTER > Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first > grandchild: > > Sierra Donna King > born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM > > weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > ==== TOLPUDDLE Mailing List ==== > LOVELESS/LOVELACE GENEALOGY PAGE - > UNITED KINGDOM/CANADA/AUSTRALIA > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~martyrs > >

Hello all. I would like to let you know about the birth of my first grandchild: Sierra Donna King born February 8, 2005 at 5:16 PM weights in a 7 lbs 14 oz. Cheers, Donna

Hi All Does anyone know if Francis Loveless born circ 1890 Dorset, 1915 living Harewood Leeds, wife Alice, WW1 in Royal Warwick Reg and Frederick Loveless born circ 1881 Manchester wife Martha, in 1917 living Kearsley, Bolton, Lancs, WW1 in RE are from the family tree of Elizabeth Hammett and Stephen Loveless? Regards Sally