HI Donna thanks for your response. I should know the answer to this, but what actually is the scope of this list? Is it for Loveless research, or Martyr research (eg Brine Standfield, Hammett, Loveless descendents) , or people from the Tolpuddle Dorset area? At any rate, I have done quite a bit of research that is Tolpuddle Martyr related in Ontario amd would be glad to help someone with specific questions, be they Brine, Standfield or Loveless. regards, Geoff

Geoff - thanks for your posting. Sorry these surnames are not familar to me. My Lovelesses married Hibbs, Hoare, Bartlett, Sanson or Sansom, Legg, Cornish, Cake, and White. Who on this list has the Canadian connection for Loveless/Lovelace? My research hasn't gotten that far. Susan, can you help with this? I know that you have been researching the Tolpuddle Martyrs in Ontario. Perhaps it would be useful if we all knew who is researching what where? Any suggestions gratefully received. I would like to see this list become active and productive. Donna King Tolpuddle List Manager Oldest Loveless ancestor - John Loveless born circa 1731 Tolpuddle, Dorset, England. -- Original Message ----- From: Geoff <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 11:26 AM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Loveless-Callander, Crabb, Cooper > Hi, > I am looking for connections to the Lovelesses from Callander, Crabb, and > Cooper, particularly in Ontario and Ohio. > Andrew Callander married two Loveless women: first Sarah in 1873, dau of > John Loveless and Thirza Sylvester, and then Geneva(?) in 1901, dau of > Thomas Loveless and Mary Ann Crabb. It is believed Andrew lived with his > first wife in London and his second in Ohio. > > A Sarah Ann Loveless (1827-1865) married a John Crabb. Who are they? How > do they relate to John and Thirza? It is believed they lived in London, > Ont > > Did one of Robert Loveless's(1800-1883) daughters marry a Cooper (name, not > profession)? This Robert was a brother of the TM's and lived in London > Ont. > > Thanks and regards, > > Geoff >

Hi Gang I would like to tell all that on Saturday 26th June we will have our first list wedding. So to Carol Park and Brian Vernon all the very best for your wedding and here's to a long and happy life to both of you. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!! Irene

Hi, I am looking for connections to the Lovelesses from Callander, Crabb, and Cooper, particularly in Ontario and Ohio. Andrew Callander married two Loveless women: first Sarah in 1873, dau of John Loveless and Thirza Sylvester, and then Geneva(?) in 1901, dau of Thomas Loveless and Mary Ann Crabb. It is believed Andrew lived with his first wife in London and his second in Ohio. A Sarah Ann Loveless (1827-1865) married a John Crabb. Who are they? How do they relate to John and Thirza? It is believed they lived in London, Ont Did one of Robert Loveless's(1800-1883) daughters marry a Cooper (name, not profession)? This Robert was a brother of the TM's and lived in London Ont. Thanks and regards, Geoff

Hi Geoff Joyce Marlow says in her book on the martyrs that Joseph joined his brother James to live with George and James Loveless at New House Farm in 1839 she does not mention him being married then. Best Wishes David

Hi Geoff I can't help directly with your request but Joyce Marlow does say in her book that Joseph Brine had gone to live at New House farm in Essex in 1839 where he lived with George and James Loveless and his older brother James she makes no mention of his being married then. best wishes David -----Original Message----- From: Geoff <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 19 June 1999 19:05 Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Standfield and Brine >Hi, >TM James Brine had a brother Joseph Parnacott Brine. They emigrated to >Canada with TM's George and James Loveless in 1844. >Does anyone know who Ann and Susan Standfield married, daughters of TM >Thomas? >Was Joseph married when he came, and if so to whom? It is understood that >he married a Jane Laidlaw in Canada, but I think this may be a second wife. > >Thanks, > and regards, > >Geoff > >

Hi, TM James Brine had a brother Joseph Parnacott Brine. They emigrated to Canada with TM's George and James Loveless in 1844. Does anyone know who Ann and Susan Standfield married, daughters of TM Thomas? Was Joseph married when he came, and if so to whom? It is understood that he married a Jane Laidlaw in Canada, but I think this may be a second wife. Thanks, and regards, Geoff

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Hi Carol I can add to your list of stray Loveless/Lovelace's. You never said if they were births/marriages or deaths. I took them as births. To everybody, never take my research as accurate, they might be wrong but this is the closest I can get. I can add families to these people if anyone wants more. >From Irene freezing my buns off in Victoria Australia. Elizabeth Ann 1867 - Bridport Loveless Elizabeth born Dorset Age 13 daughter of William & Judith of Leigh Dorset. (from 1881 census) Richard C. 1866 Bridport Loveless Richard G born Dorset Age 14 son of William & Sarah of Handsworth Dorset. (1881 census) Walter H. 1866 Bridport Lovelace Walter Henry C 12 Mar 1866 Mother Dinah Lovelace Bridport. (Vital Records) Sarah A 1866 Dorchester Loveless Sarah Ann born Dorchester Age 15 Father James Dorchester. (1881 census) Reuben Stoodley 1867 Bridport Nothing on Rueben. James Sansom Dorchester 1867 Loveless James S born Tolpuddle son of Robert & Esther of Moreton. (1881 census) Frederick Alban 1867 Weymouth A Maybe! Loveless Frederick A born Upwey Age 14 mother Martha of Upwey. (1881 census) William George 1868 Bridport Lovelace William George Christened 12 Oct 1870 Bridport Mother Ellen Lovelace. (Vital records) William Loveless 1838 Bridport A maybe! William G born Piddletrenthide Age 40 of Puddletrenthide wife Elizabeth. (1881 census)

----- Original Message ----- From: J Errett <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 11:15 PM Subject: More Vital Records from England > > Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Halse/Hmar_D.html > Halse Marriages 1559-1812 England > > Grant Jane Charles Lovelace 16 Oct 1743 > > Hawkins William Mary Lovelace 22 May 1716 > > Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Halse/Hmar_A.html > More Halse Marriages 1559-1812 England > Bruford Elizabeth Robert Lovelace 08 Jun 1669 > Collard Mary Thomas Lovelace 24 Jun 1702 > > Information found at Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Halse/Hmar_I.html > More Halse Marriages 1559-1812 England > Jermaine Mary Robert Lovelace 26 Jun 1717 > Lovelace Charles Jane Grant 16 Oct 1743 > Lovelace Grace John Priddy 15 Sep 1707 > Lovelace Joane John Nation 14 Oct 1672 > Lovelace Katherine Henry Norman 10 Feb 1702 > Lovelace Margery Philip Wall 04 Oct 1752 > Lovelace Mary William Hawkins 22 May 1716 > Lovelace Robert Elizabeth Bruford 08 Jun 1669 > Lovelace Robert Mary Jermaine 26 Jun 1717 > Lovelace Thomas Mary Collard 24 Jun 1702 > Lovelace William Susannah Pearse 30 Aug 1756 > Lovelesse Nicholas Johane Baseley 24 Nov 1635 Lovelesse Robert Marie Hoopper 06 Nov 1634 > Lovelis Agnes John Hankcocke 01 May 1667 > Lovelis Elizabeth William Burge 11 Nov 1602 > Lovelis Grace Christopher Nation 12 Apr 1662 > Lovelis John Mary Burge 01 Nov 1665 > Lovelis Thomas Margery Bruford 29 Jun 1664 > > > > Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/NortonFitzwarren/BapNor_J.html > > Norton Fitwarren Baptisms 1726-1812 England > > Lovelace Jane 16 Jan 1736 d Robert/Sarah > Lovelace John 12 Oct 1735 s Robert/Joan > Lovelace John 05 Sep 1728 s Robert/Joan > Lovelace Robert 23 Mar 1739 s Robert/Joan > Lovelace William 22 Jul 1732 s Robert/Joan > > Note: dates given are baptismal dates not birth dates. No birth dates given. > > > Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/NortonFitzwarren/BurNor.html > > > Norton Fitzwarren Burials 1726-1780 England > > Lovelace Eleanor 23 Nov 1729 w William > Lovelace John 25 Dec 1735 s Robert/Joan > Lovelace Robert 13 Jun 1740 > Lovelace William 14 Dec 1729 > > Information found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Pitminster/BurPit_L.html > > Pitminster, St Mary & St Andrew, Burials 1683-1886 England > Lovelace Robert 11 Jul 1773 > >

Irene, Thanks for your posting. Like Irene has said - Post your family trees and keep your fingers crossed that someone somewhere has some information on your family. I did and Irene was great and she not only pointed me in the right direction but handed me some of my family. I would really like to help Irene find her Robert. So if any of you have any information that will help Irene, plse pass it to her directly or post it to the list. Irene, I will check my 1881 census and will let you know if I come across anything. Donna King Tolpuddle list Manager ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 8:13 PM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] POSTING MY FAMILY > Hi again > I don't know that I have ever posted my family and maybe, just maybe, there > is a relo out there waiting for me. > On another mailing list they did a rollcall ( this means posting your > interests) with great success so if you are out there and wondering why > your family hasn't been mentioned on this site or maybe like me you have > been just living in hope, follow my lead and post your family. > I know some of you have posted your interests and you have all had answers > and some great success from your postings. So it does work. > At my last count there was about thirty people subscribed to this mailing > list so come on gang lets see who you are all looking for. > Here goes, this is my family, any help or advise would be greatly > appreciated. My Robert is a very difficult to find and I have been > searching for him for five years now. > I was hoping that my Robert was the cousin of the Tolpuddle Martyr > Loveless's living in London in the 1830's that is mentioned in books about > the Tolpuddle Martyrs, but I won't hold my breath. > My family story like a lot of the rest of your is that we connect to the > Tolpuddle Martyrs. > > My ggg grandfather was Robert William Loveless born between 1791-1805 in > Sommerset Bristol England. > Robert married Elizabeth Withers in 1830 at St Giles Cripplegate London. > Their children are listed as being born in Surrey, in the census they are > living in Bermondsey London and they were all christened at St John's > Horsleydowns Bermondsey London. > > They are- > > Anne B 1830 ? > Maria B 1830? > Elizabeth B 1832 > William B 1834 > John Robert B 1837 D 1837 > John Robert B 1841 (twin) > Ellen (Ellia) B 1841 (twin) > Thomas Walter B 1843 my gg grandfather. > > Most of the family migrated in the 1850's to Australia. > Maria went to New Zealand and Anne and Ellen seemed to have stayed in England. > Robert, Elizabeth the boys and Elizabeth settled in Castlemaine Victoria. > > Thanks for reading this folks. > I look forward to seeing lots of posting, well fingers crossed. > Bye > Irene > > > >

Hi Irene, good to see YOUR family on the website. Hope someone might come up with something! I have been looking over my old Catherine House Index (England Registration) and have various 'odd' Lovelesses from the Bridport area that might interest someone - doesn't look too hopeful for Roberts tho'. Anyway - I have following names/places/and I have the C.House Reg Nos. if anyone is interested Elizabeth Ann 1867 - Bridport Richard C. 1866 Bridport Walter H. 1866 Bridport Sarah A 1866 Dorchester Reuben Stoodley 1867 Bridport James Sansom Dorchester 1867 Frederick Alban 1867 Weymouth William George 1868 Bridport William Loveless 1838 Bridport Happy hunting, Carol

Hi again I don't know that I have ever posted my family and maybe, just maybe, there is a relo out there waiting for me. On another mailing list they did a rollcall ( this means posting your interests) with great success so if you are out there and wondering why your family hasn't been mentioned on this site or maybe like me you have been just living in hope, follow my lead and post your family. I know some of you have posted your interests and you have all had answers and some great success from your postings. So it does work. At my last count there was about thirty people subscribed to this mailing list so come on gang lets see who you are all looking for. Here goes, this is my family, any help or advise would be greatly appreciated. My Robert is a very difficult to find and I have been searching for him for five years now. I was hoping that my Robert was the cousin of the Tolpuddle Martyr Loveless's living in London in the 1830's that is mentioned in books about the Tolpuddle Martyrs, but I won't hold my breath. My family story like a lot of the rest of your is that we connect to the Tolpuddle Martyrs. My ggg grandfather was Robert William Loveless born between 1791-1805 in Sommerset Bristol England. Robert married Elizabeth Withers in 1830 at St Giles Cripplegate London. Their children are listed as being born in Surrey, in the census they are living in Bermondsey London and they were all christened at St John's Horsleydowns Bermondsey London. They are- Anne B 1830 ? Maria B 1830? Elizabeth B 1832 William B 1834 John Robert B 1837 D 1837 John Robert B 1841 (twin) Ellen (Ellia) B 1841 (twin) Thomas Walter B 1843 my gg grandfather. Most of the family migrated in the 1850's to Australia. Maria went to New Zealand and Anne and Ellen seemed to have stayed in England. Robert, Elizabeth the boys and Elizabeth settled in Castlemaine Victoria. Thanks for reading this folks. I look forward to seeing lots of posting, well fingers crossed. Bye Irene

Hi gang I had an interesting email from a fellow name Donald Loveless from Montana U.S.A. He is just starting out with his family tree and we can all remember what that was like. His grandfather was FIRMAN LOVELESS born 1901 in Kalispell Montana. He has been told that Firman's parents came from London England and that they may have been watchmakers. If there is anyone out there that could help here it would be greatly appreciated. Bye for now Irene in freezing cold, blowing a gale, Victoria Australia. First day of the ski season YUCK!

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Hi Donna this is what I have on John. Yes he is the eldest child of Thomas and Dinnah Loveless John B 1786. I think I was wrong with him marrying Mary Ann (Ann) Moore, this is what was on the large tree I have but I now believe he may have married Mary Ann Way 23/4/1812 at Tolpuddle. John and his brother William were flaxdressers in Bridport in 1834, John and Mary Ann migrated to Canada, Mary Ann died at sea on the way over in 1865. John's children settled in Ontario Canada, Girard Ohio and Trumbull Ohio. I have lots of branches of this family and would love to hear from anyone that thinks they descend from this family. Bye for now Irene, Brrrr its cold here, send the heat. At 19:45 8/06/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi guys. > >I believe that a John Loveless was a flax dresser from Bridport. He was >related to George and James Loveless and perhaps a brother? I'm not sure of >the direct relationship. > >Okay just going through some of my old emails from you Irene. John Married >Mary Ann Moore or Ann Moore. Flax dresser Bridport 1834. Born Tolpuddle in >1786 - mother Dinah Loveless (nee Stickland), father Thomas Loveless.. So >therefore, he was the oldest brother - oldest child of 11. > >I'm having technical difficulties with my Southwestern disc, which has >Dorset county on, for my 1881 census. Hopefully, I can replace it. > >Looks like Bridport might be important for the Lovelesses next to Tolpuddle. > >Donna King >Tolpuddle List Manager >oldest Loveless ancestor - John Loveless born 1731 Tolpuddle, Dorset, >england >----- Original Message ----- >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 6:57 AM >Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family > > >> Hi Elizabeth >> Thanks for telling me were Symondsbury was I looked all day for it. Near >> Bridport well you are in the thick of things. Bridport Loveless/Lovelace's >> seem to be close to the Tolpuddle Loveless's. >> I did have a look on the 1881 census but didn't find any, one possiblity >> for William C 1834 now that you tell me near Bridport. >> >> >> Name-Lovelace William >> Age 45 >> Relationship-Head >> Census place- Melcombe R+ >> Occupation- Builder Emplo+ Self >> Where born-Dor Bridport >> >> >> Name-Lovelace Marian >> Age 30 >> Relationship-Wife >> Census place- Melcombe R+ >> Where born-Southhampton >> >> Hang on there's George >> >> >> Name-Lovelace George >> Age 76 >> Relationship-Head >> Census place- Symondsbury >> Occupation- Ag Lab >> Where born-Symondsbury >> Oh this George has a wife name Charlotte >> Name-Lovelace Charlotte >> Age 66 >> Relationship- George Lovelace >> Census place- Symondsbury >> Occupation- >> Where born-Symondsbury >> >> I need to study this and get back to you, George and Charlotte seem to be >> living with a James and Caroline Lovelace. >> There is more but I badly need sleep. >> Will do more tomorrow >> Bye Irene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 13:29 8/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >> >Dear Irene, >> > >> >Many thanks for all the information. >> > >> >The names themselves are interesting as my grandmother, Marina's >> >granddaughter, was called Sarah Jane and her sister was Harriet Caroline. >> > >> >I find this very interesting. >> > >> >I have ordered the LDS 1881 census so may be able to find them there when >it >> >comes. They were not on the 1851 Devon, Warwicks and Norfolk one as some >> >Werst Dorset people are. >> > >> >I live in Hampshire in England but I was born and raised in Bridport. >> >Symondsbury is a village just outside it. >> > >> >Many thanks for your help I will keep you posted of further developments >if >> >you are interested. >> > >> >Best wishes >> >Elizabeth (HOLLICK nee ROBERTS) >> >1 Glyn Way >> >FAREHAM >> >Hants. >> >PO13 2PH >> >England >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >Date: 08 June 1999 05:17 >> >Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family >> > >> > >> >>Hi Elizabeth >> >>This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another >> >>Loveless. >> >>Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads >> >>you in the right direction to finding your family. >> >>This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. >> >> >> >>Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury >> >>Mother- Marina Lovelace. >> >>_______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >> >> >>Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to >> >>William Eveleigh Symondsbury >> >> >> >>Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >>______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of >> >>William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. >> >> >> >> >> >>Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to >> >>Hannah Hine Symondsbury >> >> >> >>Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury >> >>Parents William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >>Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury >> >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >> >> >> >>Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available >> >>films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved >to >> >far. >> >>Anyway enjoy >> >>Bye for now >> >>Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >> >>>Dear Irene, >> >>> >> >>>I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. >> >>> >> >>>I look forward to my birthday! >> >>> >> >>>Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) >> >>>1 Glyn Way >> >>>FAREHAM >> >>>Hants, >> >>>PO13 2PH >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: [email protected] ><[email protected]> >> >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >>>Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 >> >>>Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >

Hi guys. I believe that a John Loveless was a flax dresser from Bridport. He was related to George and James Loveless and perhaps a brother? I'm not sure of the direct relationship. Okay just going through some of my old emails from you Irene. John Married Mary Ann Moore or Ann Moore. Flax dresser Bridport 1834. Born Tolpuddle in 1786 - mother Dinah Loveless (nee Stickland), father Thomas Loveless.. So therefore, he was the oldest brother - oldest child of 11. I'm having technical difficulties with my Southwestern disc, which has Dorset county on, for my 1881 census. Hopefully, I can replace it. Looks like Bridport might be important for the Lovelesses next to Tolpuddle. Donna King Tolpuddle List Manager oldest Loveless ancestor - John Loveless born 1731 Tolpuddle, Dorset, england ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family > Hi Elizabeth > Thanks for telling me were Symondsbury was I looked all day for it. Near > Bridport well you are in the thick of things. Bridport Loveless/Lovelace's > seem to be close to the Tolpuddle Loveless's. > I did have a look on the 1881 census but didn't find any, one possiblity > for William C 1834 now that you tell me near Bridport. > > > Name-Lovelace William > Age 45 > Relationship-Head > Census place- Melcombe R+ > Occupation- Builder Emplo+ Self > Where born-Dor Bridport > > > Name-Lovelace Marian > Age 30 > Relationship-Wife > Census place- Melcombe R+ > Where born-Southhampton > > Hang on there's George > > > Name-Lovelace George > Age 76 > Relationship-Head > Census place- Symondsbury > Occupation- Ag Lab > Where born-Symondsbury > Oh this George has a wife name Charlotte > Name-Lovelace Charlotte > Age 66 > Relationship- George Lovelace > Census place- Symondsbury > Occupation- > Where born-Symondsbury > > I need to study this and get back to you, George and Charlotte seem to be > living with a James and Caroline Lovelace. > There is more but I badly need sleep. > Will do more tomorrow > Bye Irene > > > > > > > > At 13:29 8/06/99 +0100, you wrote: > >Dear Irene, > > > >Many thanks for all the information. > > > >The names themselves are interesting as my grandmother, Marina's > >granddaughter, was called Sarah Jane and her sister was Harriet Caroline. > > > >I find this very interesting. > > > >I have ordered the LDS 1881 census so may be able to find them there when it > >comes. They were not on the 1851 Devon, Warwicks and Norfolk one as some > >Werst Dorset people are. > > > >I live in Hampshire in England but I was born and raised in Bridport. > >Symondsbury is a village just outside it. > > > >Many thanks for your help I will keep you posted of further developments if > >you are interested. > > > >Best wishes > >Elizabeth (HOLLICK nee ROBERTS) > >1 Glyn Way > >FAREHAM > >Hants. > >PO13 2PH > >England > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: 08 June 1999 05:17 > >Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family > > > > > >>Hi Elizabeth > >>This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another > >>Loveless. > >>Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads > >>you in the right direction to finding your family. > >>This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. > >> > >>Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury > >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >> > >>Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury > >>Mother- Marina Lovelace. > >>_______________________________________________________ > >> > >>Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury > >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >> > >>Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury > >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >> > >>Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to > >>William Eveleigh Symondsbury > >> > >>Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury > >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >>______________________________________________________ > >> > >>This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of > >>William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. > >> > >> > >>Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury > >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >>Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury > >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >>Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury > >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >>Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to > >>Hannah Hine Symondsbury > >> > >>Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury > >>Parents William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >>Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury > >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >>Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury > >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >> > >> > >>Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available > >>films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved to > >far. > >>Anyway enjoy > >>Bye for now > >>Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: > >>>Dear Irene, > >>> > >>>I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. > >>> > >>>I look forward to my birthday! > >>> > >>>Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) > >>>1 Glyn Way > >>>FAREHAM > >>>Hants, > >>>PO13 2PH > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>>Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 > >>>Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > >

Hi Elizabeth Thanks for telling me were Symondsbury was I looked all day for it. Near Bridport well you are in the thick of things. Bridport Loveless/Lovelace's seem to be close to the Tolpuddle Loveless's. I did have a look on the 1881 census but didn't find any, one possiblity for William C 1834 now that you tell me near Bridport. Name-Lovelace William Age 45 Relationship-Head Census place- Melcombe R+ Occupation- Builder Emplo+ Self Where born-Dor Bridport Name-Lovelace Marian Age 30 Relationship-Wife Census place- Melcombe R+ Where born-Southhampton Hang on there's George Name-Lovelace George Age 76 Relationship-Head Census place- Symondsbury Occupation- Ag Lab Where born-Symondsbury Oh this George has a wife name Charlotte Name-Lovelace Charlotte Age 66 Relationship- George Lovelace Census place- Symondsbury Occupation- Where born-Symondsbury I need to study this and get back to you, George and Charlotte seem to be living with a James and Caroline Lovelace. There is more but I badly need sleep. Will do more tomorrow Bye Irene At 13:29 8/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Irene, > >Many thanks for all the information. > >The names themselves are interesting as my grandmother, Marina's >granddaughter, was called Sarah Jane and her sister was Harriet Caroline. > >I find this very interesting. > >I have ordered the LDS 1881 census so may be able to find them there when it >comes. They were not on the 1851 Devon, Warwicks and Norfolk one as some >Werst Dorset people are. > >I live in Hampshire in England but I was born and raised in Bridport. >Symondsbury is a village just outside it. > >Many thanks for your help I will keep you posted of further developments if >you are interested. > >Best wishes >Elizabeth (HOLLICK nee ROBERTS) >1 Glyn Way >FAREHAM >Hants. >PO13 2PH >England > >-----Original Message----- >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: 08 June 1999 05:17 >Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family > > >>Hi Elizabeth >>This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another >>Loveless. >>Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads >>you in the right direction to finding your family. >>This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. >> >>Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >>Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury >>Mother- Marina Lovelace. >>_______________________________________________________ >> >>Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >>Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >> >>Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to >>William Eveleigh Symondsbury >> >>Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury >>Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >>______________________________________________________ >> >>This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of >>William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. >> >> >>Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >>Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >>Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >>Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to >>Hannah Hine Symondsbury >> >>Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury >>Parents William Lovelass & Luce >> >>Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >>Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury >>Parents- William Lovelass & Luce >> >> >>Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available >>films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved to >far. >>Anyway enjoy >>Bye for now >>Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >>>Dear Irene, >>> >>>I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. >>> >>>I look forward to my birthday! >>> >>>Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) >>>1 Glyn Way >>>FAREHAM >>>Hants, >>>PO13 2PH >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 >>>Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >

Dear Irene, Many thanks for all the information. The names themselves are interesting as my grandmother, Marina's granddaughter, was called Sarah Jane and her sister was Harriet Caroline. I find this very interesting. I have ordered the LDS 1881 census so may be able to find them there when it comes. They were not on the 1851 Devon, Warwicks and Norfolk one as some Werst Dorset people are. I live in Hampshire in England but I was born and raised in Bridport. Symondsbury is a village just outside it. Many thanks for your help I will keep you posted of further developments if you are interested. Best wishes Elizabeth (HOLLICK nee ROBERTS) 1 Glyn Way FAREHAM Hants. PO13 2PH England -----Original Message----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 08 June 1999 05:17 Subject: [TOLPUDDLE-L] Marina Lovelace and family >Hi Elizabeth >This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another >Loveless. >Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads >you in the right direction to finding your family. >This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. > >Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury >Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury >Mother- Marina Lovelace. >_______________________________________________________ > >Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury >Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury >Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett > >Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to >William Eveleigh Symondsbury > >Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury >Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett >______________________________________________________ > >This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of >William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. > > >Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury >Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury >Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury >Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to >Hannah Hine Symondsbury > >Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury >Parents William Lovelass & Luce > >Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury >Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > >Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury >Parents- William Lovelass & Luce > > >Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available >films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved to far. >Anyway enjoy >Bye for now >Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. > > > > > > > > > > >At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >>Dear Irene, >> >>I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. >> >>I look forward to my birthday! >> >>Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) >>1 Glyn Way >>FAREHAM >>Hants, >>PO13 2PH >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 >>Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 >> >> >> >> >

Hi Elizabeth This all jumped out at me the other day when I was looking for another Loveless. Please never take my research as completely accurate but I hope it leads you in the right direction to finding your family. This has all come off the IGI for Dorset. Lovelace Marina C 16 Dec 1827 Symondsbury Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett Lovelace Caroline Harriett C 15 Apr 1850 Symondsbury Mother- Marina Lovelace. _______________________________________________________ Lovelace Sarah C 6 May 1830 Symondsbury Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett Lovelace Caroline C 13 Oct 1832 Symondsbury Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett Lovelace Caroline marriage 27 Dec 1856 to William Eveleigh Symondsbury Lovelace William C 19 Oct 1834 Symondsbury Parents- George Lovelace & Harriett ______________________________________________________ This looks to be George's family. There could be a lot more children of William and Luce because there are some large gaps between the births. Lovelass Sarah C 17 Aug 1780 Symondsbury Parents- William Lovelass & Luce Lovelass John C 20 Apr 1788 Symondsbury Parents- William Lovelass & Luce Lovelass Thomas C 27 Mar 1791 Symondsbury Parents- William Lovelass & Luce Lovelass Thomas marriage 19 Nov 1807 to Hannah Hine Symondsbury Lovelass William C 13 April 1794 Symondsbury Parents William Lovelass & Luce Lovelass Elizabeth C 2 Apr 1797 Symondsbury Parents- William Lovelass & Luce Lovelass George C 29 Apr 1804 Symondsbury Parents- William Lovelass & Luce Where do you live Elizabeth? It would be worth searching the available films for this area and the 1851 census, they don't seem to have moved to far. Anyway enjoy Bye for now Irene in cold but sunny Victoria Australia. At 19:44 7/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Irene, > >I was the one seeking my great-geat-grandmother Marina Lovelace. > >I look forward to my birthday! > >Elizabeth Hollick (nee Roberts) >1 Glyn Way >FAREHAM >Hants, >PO13 2PH > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: 07 June 1999 07:49 >Subject: TOLPUDDLE-D Digest V99 #55 > > > >