My name is Gayle Young (nee Standfield) and am a descendant of Thomas and John Standfield, two of the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Thomas Standfield was married to Dinniah Loveless, who was the sister of George and James Loveless. Thomas was born in Tolpuddle England in 1789 married in 1812 and died in1864. One report says they had six children and another three. My brother Gary and I are researching, trying to find out the parents or siblings of Thomas that may have remained in England at the time that Thomas immigrated to Ontario Canada around 1836. We would appreciate any information anyone might be able to share with us. Gayle Young Sarnia Ontario Canada N7S 5Y3 [email protected]

Congratulations Irene's sister!! And you too of course - it's a big thing becoming an aunty and I must admit I miss my nephews back in UK more than my sister! (Hope she didn't hear that.......) Geez I hope she had a caesarian..............??? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] NEW SPRIG ON MY TREE!!!! > I'M AN AUNTY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! > > I have a new sprig, my very clever sister today gave birth to son number > three. > > ADAM JOHAN TEVEN > Born 11.16am > 1st OCTOBER 1999 > Weighting in at a wooping 10lb 7ozs or 4750g > > Oh its so wonderful I just wanted you all to know. > Toodles > >From the PROUDEST AUNTY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!! > AUNTY EYE!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >

Fantastic work, Irene...you don't know what you're offering!! Actually, maybe now you'll be able to draw the two LOVELESS lines together!! I'm really hoping you can get those John's, Edward's, and William's worked out. One of my specific questions is the parents of John LOVELESS b. c. 1799 who married Susannah Allengame Cornish on 17 NOV 1823 and hopefully a family grouping showing a daughter, Susan, b abt 1825 The other is to determine parentage of her husband, Joseph Way, b abt 1817. Good Luck and Thanks a million!! Jacki

I'm just beginning to appreciate who the Tolpuddle Martyrs were. Is the following correct? James Brine (another source says 'Joseph') Thomas Stand(s)field John Standfield - (son of Thomas) hotel proprietor/ eventually became Mayor of district George Loveless - Methodist lay preacher - died 1874 James Loveless - farm near settlement of Siloam/Canada James Hammett - settled again in Tolpuddle/died 1891 One source <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace/Tolpuddle.htm> says "..only Hammett stayed in the country. The others moved to farms purchased for them in Essex by a public subscription called the Dorchester Labourers Fund." <http://www.dorset-cc.gov.uk/tolpudd.htm> = "...three emigrated to East London, Ontario, Canada, where John Standfield eventually became the Mayor..." Where's the father, Thomas? It's true, one doesn't find STANDFIELD in the 1851 or 1861 Tolpuddle census listings, but that doesn't mean they're not nearby. In the 1871 census there is a listing in Household #4 (nextdoor to Martha LOVELESS, a 55-y/o widowed dressmaker; Household #6 = John Hammett) James Standfield Head 40? Retired Naval Officer (Greenwich) Mary A Standfield wife 44 (both b. Dorset Whitechurch) James R Standfield son 7 'Scholar' b. Dorset Broadway Eliza H Standfield dau 5 Scholar b. Dorset Broadway Harry Standfield son 3 b. Dorset Broadway Mary F. L. " dau 2 b. Dorset Broadway (guess they're 'relative'ly newcomers from Broadway - anyone find it?) So, Dinniah Loveless (dau of Thomas Loveless and Dinah/Dianna STRICKLAND) married Thomas Standfield and there's the following family group recorded in the LDS Ancestral file: 1. Elizabeth STANFIELD b 1818 in Dorset Christened: 15 SEP 1818 @ Conygar, Lane-Wesleyan, Weymouth Married: James BRINE 20 JUN 1839 @ Greensted, Essex County, Eng Died: 23 Apr 1906 in Blandshard Twp, Perth Co, Ontario Buried: St. Mary's Cemetery, Blandshard Two, Ontario 2. John STANFIELD b. 'before 1818' in England Buried: London, Ontario 3. Charity STANFIELD Christened 15 Jul 1823 @ Conygar Lane, Wesleyan, Weymouth 4. Susan STANFIELD b. 1825 @ Conygar Lane, Wesleyan, Weymouth 5. Ann STANFIELD Christened 11 Jan 1826 @ Conygar Lane, Wesleyan, Weymouth 6. ___ STANFIELD b. 1828 @ Conygar Lane, Wesleyan, Weymouth I'll try to do more looking next Friday when I'm at the FHC. Jacki Keck - Williams County Genealogical Society Williston ND USA Co-editor: NDSGS Newsletter Doing research on the Plains? -interested in a copy? Send snail-address... jki

Just visited the above. Apparently TMs lived here after their 'stay' in Australia. This Saxon Church (built 1060) was carefully guarded by one Rev Phillip Ray in the 1830s - (advertised as the oldest wooden church in the world) but he was not keen on the TMs and made sure their tenancies were not renewed. So they went to Ontario. I would be interested to learn how they got on in Canada. I visited and lived there from 1966-69 : the present rector of Greensted Church says not much is known of their history whilst in Greensted but thinks this should be remedied. Can anybody help. Thanks

Wonderful Irene, Congratulations and are you not glad it was your sister with the over 10 lb baby. A lot of work. Hope he grows to be a handsome young man. By the way it is tie you sent me your current family, so I can have your complete family. Would love to have it. Hope David is keeping well. Regards Barb Lewis -----Original Message----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, 1 October 1999 5:34 PM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] NEW SPRIG ON MY TREE!!!! >I'M AN AUNTY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! > >I have a new sprig, my very clever sister today gave birth to son number >three. > >ADAM JOHAN TEVEN >Born 11.16am >1st OCTOBER 1999 >Weighting in at a wooping 10lb 7ozs or 4750g > >Oh its so wonderful I just wanted you all to know. >Toodles >>From the PROUDEST AUNTY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!! >AUNTY EYE!!!!!!!!!!!! >

I'M AN AUNTY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! I have a new sprig, my very clever sister today gave birth to son number three. ADAM JOHAN TEVEN Born 11.16am 1st OCTOBER 1999 Weighting in at a wooping 10lb 7ozs or 4750g Oh its so wonderful I just wanted you all to know. Toodles >From the PROUDEST AUNTY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!! AUNTY EYE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M AN AUNTY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! FANTASTIC!! I don't have any sisters and 'me only Bro' is childless; therefore, end of the line for our branch of the DENNIS surname - he was the only son of an only son. But I have three boys, so I guess that's enough to spread around!! ____ I have a new sprig, my very clever sister today gave birth to son number three. ADAM JOHAN TEVEN Born 11.16am 1st OCTOBER 1999 Weighting in at a wooping 10lb 7ozs or 4750g _____ That's a healthy chunk of boy!! Makes me almost groan to think about it....fortunately, my combined 11 lb 9 oz was divided up into 5lb 5oz and 6lb 4oz. And now that pound difference has grown to 20 @ age 17! Oh its so wonderful I just wanted you all to know. Toodles >From the PROUDEST AUNTY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!! AUNTY EYE!!!!!!!!!!!! ....Thanks for letting us know. More later! Jacki Keck - on the Dakota plains.

I've been transferring some files from my old Macintosh to a newer system and noticed that this had been put in the "READ MAIL" file....did it ever get out to people? jki Subject: [TOLPUDDLE]LOVELESS/ COSH? Sent: 9/12/99 11:50 AM To: [email protected] Dave Doldon, [email protected] Lovelace List, [email protected] Greg Lovelace, [email protected] I have the enumerator's handwriting on the pages of 1851 census for Tolpuddle which I printed from microfilm and I'd like to lift out a few items for analysis: First, I would like to suggest that the spelling of "Tolpiddle" (and that is how the enumerator consistently spells it at the upper left corner of the pages) might be a clue as to whether there might be other miscalculations....unless that was the spelling of the village's name at that time -- proximity of other 'piddle' names suggests it was a simple mistake done by an 'outsider,' ergo the possibility of other misspellings? [enumerator also uses old 'fs' for double 's's, like Cross] Households #3 and #4 are "Daniel" (Edward and Henry) Household #5: Wiliam Lovelefs Head M 32 Ag lab b Tolpiddle Rebecca D wife - 31 D ('ditto') Ann COSH Dau in law 9 Scholar [Until Dave's posting, I was almost ready to read this "CASH; and what type of relationship comprises a 9-y/o 'Dau in law'?] Household #10: Thomas Sergeant Head M 24 Ag Lab b Bere Regis (3 mi) Ann D wife D 23 b Tolpiddle ________ name scratched out John son 2 Thomas son 1 Ellen Lovelefs Lodger M 49 Charwoman b D Household #11: Thomas COSH Head M 67 Thatcher b Affpiddle (1 mi) Elizabeth wife M 56 b Melborne [probably 'Milborne St. Andrew' = 2 mi] Sarah dau U 24 Buttoner b ?More Critchett? [here's an example of where I'm the one not able to read or interpret through my lack of knowing where things are] Ellen dau U 18 Buttoner b Blandford [probably 'Blandford Forum' = 10 mi] Charles D Grandson 6 b Tolpiddle [who's his mother? The "D" indicates he's a COSH] Household #12: Robert COSH Head M 27 Ag Lab b Melborne Elizabeth wife D 25 b Tolpuddle [original cross-out like 'Southover;' corrected later as witnessed by the 'u' in Tolpuddle and different "T"] George son 2 b Tolpiddle Lucy Daniel Lodger U 44 Pauper/Gardener's dau b Tol There's a Lucas family in #13 and we have a Sarah Lucas 'lodger with John and Ann Lovelefs in #14; then Samuel Davison 73 (from Ireland) with his 'Southover-scratched-out+Tolpuddle' wife Diana 63 plus Jane Hammett 29 (Pauper Ag Lab) + Miriam dau 3 y/o Household # 16 is the younger John Lovelefs (it says he's 32 but I think we find him and his son, Arthur, with 'my' Susan Corish/ Cornish Loveless WAY in the next two census listings and he'd actually be 52 here?) At any rate, if you've followed me thus far, the reason for this exercise (and I've worked on this a couple of hours) is to suggest that it might be easy to confuse the 'Ellen Lovelefs' listed in #10 and written right above Thomas COSH, with Thomas COSH's 18-y/o daughter Ellen in household #11.

Bressingham is about 3 1/2 miles west of Diss on the A1066 passing through Roydon, and South Lopham is to the west of Bressingham. North Walsham looks to be about 6 miles from the East Anglia. It lies SE of the coastal town of Cromer (about 10 miles), along a major rail line and on the A149; and ENE of Aylsham (about 6 miles). North Walsham appears to be a small town (as opposed to a village!) Mandy >snip<> So, now where's Bressingham - Diss (or 'dat') and > North Walsham .....? jki>snip< >

Dear Mandy and others looking for Fordington, Fordington normally referred to as to Fordington St George is part of Dorchester. There is still a High Street Fordington which I found using a Web search for the name as there is a boat builder listed there at No 12!!! There is web page with a picture of Fordington church at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~lismd/dorset/churches/fordington.html I found this information using the web search engine copernic.com which is useful as it caries out a search of 10 internet search engines simultaneously. Fordinton Bottom is on the River Frome on the outskirts of Dorchester it was the site of recent excavations of an enormous Roman aqueduct. the web page about this is at http://csweb.bournemouth.ac.uk/consci/text_dor/putnam.htm Best of luck with your hunting I am pursuing information about the Norfolk Lovelss' via the Norfolk Family History Society but if any of you looking at Dorset come up with any links across to Dover where Robert Loveless of Bressingham was married in 1834 or to Bressingham or Diss or North Walsham do let me know. Best Wishes David -----Original Message----- From: John O. Andersen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 23 September 1999 18:32 Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Location of Fordington >Well I have looked on my OS map...no success. >Have tried the following with no success: > >http://uk.multimap.com/map/places.cgi > >http://travel.epicurious.com/cgi-bin/maps.cgi?link=intro > >and couldn't get on to >http://www.campus.bt.com/CampusWorld/pub/OS/Gazetteer/index.html > >You probably need an 'oooold map' ! Anyone got any ideas? > >Mandy Andersen >Portland, Oregon > > > >http://members.xoom.com/joandersen > > >

Irene, you're right. I was in a hurry last night and read the info wrong. I guess I saw Elizabeth wife of Stephen and then saw Stephen. I didn't play close attention to the age differences. Stephen would of been a real young husband but it explains why he wasn't living in Tolpuddle with Elizabeth and Mary Ann. This shows that you must not be in a hurry and really read all the information that you come across. The right information can be there but it can be misread. Irene, on the same list I have Emily aged 17, daughter of James Holloway living Milborne St Andrew (2087/5). Do you have anything on her? Regards Donna King ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Stephen Loveless > Hi Donna and all you other folks!!! > > Stephen Loveless age 38 is Elizabeth's son not husband, > he is the son of Stephen Loveless (deceased before 1881) who is the > Tolpuddle Martyrs George and James's nephew. > Elizabeth age 64 is Elizabeth Hammett daughter of another Tolpuddle Martyr. > Mary Ann age 21 is Stephen's sister and the daughter of Stephen Loveless > and Elizabeth Hammett. > I have a note next to Stephen 1st name saying that he is the son of Thomas > TM brother, I know I worked this out along time ago but for the life of me > can't find my note's on it so it is yet to be proven but I think he is the > son of Thomas Loveless. > We know know that Stephen Loveless who married Elizabeth Hammett is the > nephew of the Tolpuddle Martyrs because it is recorded in many books. > Clear as mud!!!! > If you have any others there Donna I might be able to tell you who they are. > Gotta go cook!!!! Prefer to be playing genies!!!! > Toodles > Irene > > > >I was going through some old emails and discovered info reference the 1881 > >census for persons born in Tolpuddle, Dorset. My contact in England had > >sent me a list of names some of which were the family of my 2 X > >great-grandfather's brother Robert Loveless. Robert, his wife, Esther, > >their children Alice L, Francis H, and James S were reported living at > >Moreton (2102/3) > > > >The other family was a Stephen Loveless aged 38 living Fordington (2111/32) > >his wife Elizabeth aged 64 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) > >Mary Ann unmarried daughter aged 21 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) > > > >Hope the information on Stephen Loveless helps some one. He doesn't appear > >to be part of my family branch. > > > >Regards > > > >Donna King > >Researching Loveless, Cornish, Cake, Hoare, Bartlett, Hibbs, Legg, > >Sansom(Sanson) > > > >Would anyone know where Moreton or Fordington are located in reference > >Tolpuddle. I wonder if Stephen was separated from his family due to work or > >other reasons. > > > > > > >

No sorry Donna I have no Emily age 17, I presume that she is Emily Holloway and not Emily Loveless? Is she living in the same household? I miss alot of the people with different surnames that are living in households at the time of census because people tend to send me Loveless only, many times these people are relatives to the family they are living with, which is what we are finding with what Jacki sent about the families living in Tolpuddle in 1851. I have ordered three films of Tolpuddle from 1800 to 1900 and hope that this might show us the family connections finally. So if Emily has Loveless as a surname tell me, I will look again through all my records, I have only looked at the 1881 census. That time of day again, cook, cook, cook, HAMBURGER ANYONE! we could deliver ;-) Toodles Irene >Irene, you're right. I was in a hurry last night and read the info wrong. >I guess I saw Elizabeth wife of Stephen and then saw Stephen. I didn't play >close attention to the age differences. Stephen would of been a real young >husband but it explains why he wasn't living in Tolpuddle with Elizabeth and >Mary Ann. > >This shows that you must not be in a hurry and really read all the >information that you come across. The right information can be there but it >can be misread. > >Irene, on the same list I have Emily aged 17, daughter of James Holloway >living Milborne St Andrew (2087/5). Do you have anything on her? > >Regards > >Donna King > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Irene Howgate <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:43 PM >Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Stephen Loveless > > >> Hi Donna and all you other folks!!! >> >> Stephen Loveless age 38 is Elizabeth's son not husband, >> he is the son of Stephen Loveless (deceased before 1881) who is the >> Tolpuddle Martyrs George and James's nephew. >> Elizabeth age 64 is Elizabeth Hammett daughter of another Tolpuddle >Martyr. >> Mary Ann age 21 is Stephen's sister and the daughter of Stephen Loveless >> and Elizabeth Hammett. >> I have a note next to Stephen 1st name saying that he is the son of Thomas >> TM brother, I know I worked this out along time ago but for the life of me >> can't find my note's on it so it is yet to be proven but I think he is the >> son of Thomas Loveless. >> We know know that Stephen Loveless who married Elizabeth Hammett is the >> nephew of the Tolpuddle Martyrs because it is recorded in many books. >> Clear as mud!!!! >> If you have any others there Donna I might be able to tell you who they >are. >> Gotta go cook!!!! Prefer to be playing genies!!!! >> Toodles >> Irene >> > >> >I was going through some old emails and discovered info reference the >1881 >> >census for persons born in Tolpuddle, Dorset. My contact in England had >> >sent me a list of names some of which were the family of my 2 X >> >great-grandfather's brother Robert Loveless. Robert, his wife, Esther, >> >their children Alice L, Francis H, and James S were reported living at >> >Moreton (2102/3) >> > >> >The other family was a Stephen Loveless aged 38 living Fordington >(2111/32) >> >his wife Elizabeth aged 64 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) >> >Mary Ann unmarried daughter aged 21 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) >> > >> >Hope the information on Stephen Loveless helps some one. He doesn't >appear >> >to be part of my family branch. >> > >> >Regards >> > >> >Donna King >> >Researching Loveless, Cornish, Cake, Hoare, Bartlett, Hibbs, Legg, >> >Sansom(Sanson) >> > >> >Would anyone know where Moreton or Fordington are located in reference >> >Tolpuddle. I wonder if Stephen was separated from his family due to work >or >> >other reasons. >> > >> > >> > >> > >

Well I have looked on my OS map...no success. Have tried the following with no success: http://uk.multimap.com/map/places.cgi http://travel.epicurious.com/cgi-bin/maps.cgi?link=intro and couldn't get on to http://www.campus.bt.com/CampusWorld/pub/OS/Gazetteer/index.html You probably need an 'oooold map' ! Anyone got any ideas? Mandy Andersen Portland, Oregon http://members.xoom.com/joandersen

Tolpuddle is on the north bank of the River Piddle or Trent, hence so many of the 'piddle' names - and perhaps why the enumerator of the 1851 census lists 'our town' as TOLPIDDLE. The River runs southeasterly to Wareham. Immediately south of Tolpuddle and about 2 miles, the River Frome runs to meet Piddle/Trent at the same estuary. Moreton lies on the south bank of the River Frome and an additional 1-1/2 mile downriver...an easy walk in those days! FYI: About 3 miles southeast of Tulpuddle is an area listed as "Lawrence of Arabia's Cottage" Anyone find Fordington yet? The 'description of enumeration' for Fordington Parish listed on the 1851 census reads: "..as lie on the west of the Turnpike Road leading from Charminster through the Town of Dorchester and Weymouth (including Retreat Cottage and Cottages belonging thereto, Bennett's Village, __arrett's Houses, The Brittania, Grove House, Hamilton Row, All Grove Buildings and __iller's Close, West Mills and the Can____ at the Barracks (every part thereof being within the Parliamentary and Municipal Borough of Dorchester." On the detailed map I've recently received from S&DFHS, the only thing that looks likely is about a mile west of Dorchester and labelled "Fordington Down." But maybe that will get you into the geographical area. I had xeroxed the map in our Nat'l Geo Atlas and drawn circles around Tolpuddle in 10-mile-radius increments then did a spread sheet on the towns surrounding it. I'll probably have to redo the data now that I have a more detailed map! Sometimes one doesn't realize that a name he sees in records is only a few miles away and might be a relative. If anyone's interested in my simplifying the town list and submitting the information, let me know. Jacki Keck - Williams County Genealogical Society Williston ND USA <[email protected]>

Hi all. I was going through some old emails and discovered info reference the 1881 census for persons born in Tolpuddle, Dorset. My contact in England had sent me a list of names some of which were the family of my 2 X great-grandfather's brother Robert Loveless. Robert, his wife, Esther, their children Alice L, Francis H, and James S were reported living at Moreton (2102/3) The other family was a Stephen Loveless aged 38 living Fordington (2111/32) his wife Elizabeth aged 64 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) Mary Ann unmarried daughter aged 21 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) Hope the information on Stephen Loveless helps some one. He doesn't appear to be part of my family branch. Regards Donna King Researching Loveless, Cornish, Cake, Hoare, Bartlett, Hibbs, Legg, Sansom(Sanson) Would anyone know where Moreton or Fordington are located in reference Tolpuddle. I wonder if Stephen was separated from his family due to work or other reasons.

Hi Donna and all you other folks!!! Stephen Loveless age 38 is Elizabeth's son not husband, he is the son of Stephen Loveless (deceased before 1881) who is the Tolpuddle Martyrs George and James's nephew. Elizabeth age 64 is Elizabeth Hammett daughter of another Tolpuddle Martyr. Mary Ann age 21 is Stephen's sister and the daughter of Stephen Loveless and Elizabeth Hammett. I have a note next to Stephen 1st name saying that he is the son of Thomas TM brother, I know I worked this out along time ago but for the life of me can't find my note's on it so it is yet to be proven but I think he is the son of Thomas Loveless. We know know that Stephen Loveless who married Elizabeth Hammett is the nephew of the Tolpuddle Martyrs because it is recorded in many books. Clear as mud!!!! If you have any others there Donna I might be able to tell you who they are. Gotta go cook!!!! Prefer to be playing genies!!!! Toodles Irene > >I was going through some old emails and discovered info reference the 1881 >census for persons born in Tolpuddle, Dorset. My contact in England had >sent me a list of names some of which were the family of my 2 X >great-grandfather's brother Robert Loveless. Robert, his wife, Esther, >their children Alice L, Francis H, and James S were reported living at >Moreton (2102/3) > >The other family was a Stephen Loveless aged 38 living Fordington (2111/32) >his wife Elizabeth aged 64 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) >Mary Ann unmarried daughter aged 21 living Tolpuddle (2112/13) > >Hope the information on Stephen Loveless helps some one. He doesn't appear >to be part of my family branch. > >Regards > >Donna King >Researching Loveless, Cornish, Cake, Hoare, Bartlett, Hibbs, Legg, >Sansom(Sanson) > >Would anyone know where Moreton or Fordington are located in reference >Tolpuddle. I wonder if Stephen was separated from his family due to work or >other reasons. > > >

Can anyone help Kate? Kate - My great-grandmother was Kate Loveless from Tolpuddle, Dorset. Regards Donna King Tolpuddle List Manager ----- Original Message ----- From: KATE LOVELACE <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 5:54 AM Subject: DESCENDANTS > I am trying to find out whether my family (Lovelace) is related in any way > to the Tolpuddle Martyr Lovelesses. My grandfather was Rex Lovelace, born > Piddlehinton, Dorset at beginning of this century (1910?) > > Any help would be gratefully received. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >

Thanks Dave. Donna King ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Doldon <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > Donna, > > I went through your gedcom and found that I have a lot of information that > you do not have although you have provided me with the links I was looking > for. All of my information are extracts from the Bishop's transcripts of the > Parish Records of Tolpuddle. Give me a while and I will provide what I have. > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D King <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: September 11, 1999 10:12 PM > Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > Hello Dave. Thanks for your reply. > > > > I would like to send you a GEDCOM but I don't have a gedcom program > > downloaded at the moment. I had had to reboot my C drive a few months ago > > and lost all the programs I had downloaded. There is a gedcom of my > family > > tree on the Loveless/Lovelace website. > > > > Regards > > > > Donna > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dave Doldon <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > > > > Dear Donna, > > > > > > I really do want to get into this with you as I have a fair amount of > > > information that I think you can help with. The problem is that I am in > > the > > > middle of moving. I did have time for a quick look and discovered that > the > > > information you questioned was supplied by a professional researcher, > many > > > years ago when my late father started this research. This is what he > > wrote. > > > "Thomas Loveless was born on 20th January, 1854, at 2p.m., at Tolpiddle, > > in > > > the Sub-district of Piddletown, Dorset, the son of William Loveless, > > > labourer, by Ellen Loveless formerly Cosh". It certainly sounds as if it > > was > > > a copied report from a proper record. The 1851 census shows William 20 > > > living with his father Edward and also shows Ellen Cosh 18 living with > her > > > father Thomas. I think I will stick to Cosh as it seems correct. I note > > that > > > the census also shows an older William Loveless whom seems to be married > > to > > > a Rebecca Cosh who I believe is also Thomas's daughter. By the way the > > > researcher used was a member of the Society of Genealogists and did an > > > excellent job. > > > > > > Can you supply a gedcom of your Loveless lines? Did you have any trouble > > > with my website? Can you provide the link to the Martyrs? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: D King <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: September 11, 1999 6:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dave. Have taken a look at your GEDCOM for the Loveless family. > > > > > > > > You have Thomas Loveless's mother down as Ellen COSH whereas I have > > Ellen > > > > CORNISH(CORISH). Do you have any documentation on this? I can't > > remember > > > > where I got CORNISH from? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Donna King > > > > > > > > Researching LOVELESS/WHITE/CORNISH/CAKE/HIBBS/HOARE/BARTLETT/LEGG/NASH > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Dave Doldon <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 9:58 PM > > > > Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I have just discovered this news group and would like to introduce > > > myself > > > > as briefly as possible. My name is Dave Doldon and I was born on the > > south > > > > coast of England. My mother's name was Annie Loveless and her family > is > > > now > > > > traced back to John Loveless, who married Judith Hibbs in 1796 in > > > Tolpuddle. > > > > I was quite naturally looking for a link to the Martyrs and was unable > > to > > > > find one. At the time of my research into her family most of the > parish > > > > registries had not been copied and it was nearly an impossible task. I > > > then > > > > got interested in another family line and lately have been quite > active > > in > > > a > > > > recently formed onelist group for the name of Muschamp. I currently > have > > a > > > > database of close to 5000 names, Loveless included. These names can be > > > seen > > > > with their connections at > http://doldon.tzo.com/GenDoldon/surnames.html > > or > > > > http://doldon.tzo.com/GenDoldon/persons.html with the latter just > look > > > for > > > > Annie Loveless and follow her line.Sorry, but my Welcome Page is under > > > > construction and ! > > > > > I am very busy, so it might take awhile to complete. I am interested > > in > > > > expanding my database by adding any gedcoms that will connect to my > > > Loveless > > > > family. I would still like to see the connection to the Martyrs, > cousins > > > or > > > > whatever. > > > > > > > > > > Dave Doldon > > > > > B.C. Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Donna, I went through your gedcom and found that I have a lot of information that you do not have although you have provided me with the links I was looking for. All of my information are extracts from the Bishop's transcripts of the Parish Records of Tolpuddle. Give me a while and I will provide what I have. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: D King <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: September 11, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > Hello Dave. Thanks for your reply. > > I would like to send you a GEDCOM but I don't have a gedcom program > downloaded at the moment. I had had to reboot my C drive a few months ago > and lost all the programs I had downloaded. There is a gedcom of my family > tree on the Loveless/Lovelace website. > > Regards > > Donna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Doldon <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > Dear Donna, > > > > I really do want to get into this with you as I have a fair amount of > > information that I think you can help with. The problem is that I am in > the > > middle of moving. I did have time for a quick look and discovered that the > > information you questioned was supplied by a professional researcher, many > > years ago when my late father started this research. This is what he > wrote. > > "Thomas Loveless was born on 20th January, 1854, at 2p.m., at Tolpiddle, > in > > the Sub-district of Piddletown, Dorset, the son of William Loveless, > > labourer, by Ellen Loveless formerly Cosh". It certainly sounds as if it > was > > a copied report from a proper record. The 1851 census shows William 20 > > living with his father Edward and also shows Ellen Cosh 18 living with her > > father Thomas. I think I will stick to Cosh as it seems correct. I note > that > > the census also shows an older William Loveless whom seems to be married > to > > a Rebecca Cosh who I believe is also Thomas's daughter. By the way the > > researcher used was a member of the Society of Genealogists and did an > > excellent job. > > > > Can you supply a gedcom of your Loveless lines? Did you have any trouble > > with my website? Can you provide the link to the Martyrs? > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: D King <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: September 11, 1999 6:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > > > > Hello Dave. Have taken a look at your GEDCOM for the Loveless family. > > > > > > You have Thomas Loveless's mother down as Ellen COSH whereas I have > Ellen > > > CORNISH(CORISH). Do you have any documentation on this? I can't > remember > > > where I got CORNISH from? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Donna King > > > > > > Researching LOVELESS/WHITE/CORNISH/CAKE/HIBBS/HOARE/BARTLETT/LEGG/NASH > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Dave Doldon <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 9:58 PM > > > Subject: [TOLPUDDLE] Newcomer > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I have just discovered this news group and would like to introduce > > myself > > > as briefly as possible. My name is Dave Doldon and I was born on the > south > > > coast of England. My mother's name was Annie Loveless and her family is > > now > > > traced back to John Loveless, who married Judith Hibbs in 1796 in > > Tolpuddle. > > > I was quite naturally looking for a link to the Martyrs and was unable > to > > > find one. At the time of my research into her family most of the parish > > > registries had not been copied and it was nearly an impossible task. I > > then > > > got interested in another family line and lately have been quite active > in > > a > > > recently formed onelist group for the name of Muschamp. I currently have > a > > > database of close to 5000 names, Loveless included. These names can be > > seen > > > with their connections at http://doldon.tzo.com/GenDoldon/surnames.html > or > > > http://doldon.tzo.com/GenDoldon/persons.html with the latter just look > > for > > > Annie Loveless and follow her line.Sorry, but my Welcome Page is under > > > construction and ! > > > > I am very busy, so it might take awhile to complete. I am interested > in > > > expanding my database by adding any gedcoms that will connect to my > > Loveless > > > family. I would still like to see the connection to the Martyrs, cousins > > or > > > whatever. > > > > > > > > Dave Doldon > > > > B.C. Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >