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    1. Re: [TNWILSON] TNWILSON Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58
    2. Donna Fischer
    3. Dear--- I have seen this written on employment applications,,, even government employment applications- that question your race- which they all do where I live in Illinois. Donna --- Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > No, you must be a member of the tribe to receive > preference in > employment and they usually require certification by > the tribe that > you are indeed a member of that tribe... > > *maintaining community relationships* does not make > one *part* of that > group ... there is no such thing as a *community > relationship* > Indian....:) to be Indian you need to have a > Cherokee Ancestor or > Cherokee by Blood...no other way to do it... > > I don't know who's telling you all this but sounds > like you've gotten > taken by some fake Indians.....:( > > Char > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Donna Fischer > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have found many documents that say that for one > > thing, if you maintain community relationships > with > > the tribe you can maintain on employment > applications > > that you are part of that group. That is in fact > > printed on the many employment applications. > > > > What you are confusing is the ancestry that many > > Americans have as being of Native American descent > and > > the right to claim to be a part of a tribe, which > is > > usually dictated by blood quantum and if your > ancestor > > put themselves on the rolls in the early 1900's. > > These are two different things. > > > > I have read many places that anyone has the right > to > > say that they are of whatever tribe they believe > they > > descend from ...and this is not a tribal > affiliation > > but a ancestry. > > > > I will get back to you later, but I am working on > > something else at the moment. > > > > > > Donna > > > > --- Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > No, if you claim to be from a tribe, you imply > you > > > are a member of > > > that tribe...and very few people are able to > > > document their Cherokee > > > Ancestry unless they can trace it back to one of > the > > > rolls... > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Donna Fischer > > > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > All some people want to do is claim their > ancestry > > > to > > > > the tribe that they were told they descend > from, > > > not > > > > claim benefits. > > > > > > > > Last night I found out that Wayne Newton is of > > > > Cherokee, Powathan, German and Irish heritage. > > > > > > > > That is all that is needed to be able to say > we > > > are > > > > from a particular tribe. Just like anyone > else > > > can > > > > say they are Polish, Swedish, and etc. > > > > > > > > That's why we are Americans. > > > > > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > --- Coats Family History > > > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > No, none of those are even remotely tribes > > > except > > > > > the Katoowah (not > > > > > sure of the spelling on this) Tribe in > Oklahoma > > > > > which is a sorta band > > > > > within the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > There are three and only three Federally > > > recognized > > > > > tribes of > > > > > Cherokees!! North Carolina Eastern Band of > > > > > Cherokee, Cherokee Nation > > > > > in Oklahoma and the United Katoowah Band in > > > > > Oklahoma...there is one > > > > > and only one to date of State recognized > > > Cherokee > > > > > Tribes in AL... > > > > > > > > > > All others are currently considered > > > > > wannabees....they are not > > > > > recognized by any state or federal > > > authorities...so > > > > > currently they can > > > > > not even call themselves > Cherokee....sorry...but > > > > > that's the current > > > > > state of affairs....so be aware of them, > they > > > > > generally promote things > > > > > they know nothing about.... > > > > > > > > > > Char > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:43 PM, > > > <OPEIHUM@aol.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > In addition to the Cherokee Tribes > mentioned, > > > > > there are also the Western > > > > > > Cherokee Tribe of Arkansas ans Missouri > > > > > headquartered in Arkansas. Also, the > > > > > > Lost Cherokees of Texas. The Katoowa > tribe of > > > > > Oklahoma. > > > > > > Cj in Ok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like > the > > > Pros. > > > > > Watch the video on AOL > > > > > > Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > > email > > > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the > word > > > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject > > > and > > > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > > > > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the > > > > > Artist's Tribal > > > > > registration number before you buy!! > Cherokee > > > Style, > > > > > Cherokee Heritage > > > > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > > > > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > > > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > > > > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > > > > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > > > > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > > > > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > > > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > > > > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. 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