Hi, No I am not a member of the Wolf Creek group. But wehn I found it I thought that it was something that I would be interested in meeting. The Virginia Govenor has visited them since I had seen those pictures before on their website. My mothers family was from southern Illinois and both her mother and father had some Native ancestry. One was told as Cherokee. The Trail of Tears did go thru southern Illinois and it is believed that some Cherokee may have gotten off the trail here. I will say for sure that the county my mother lived in and the ajoining couties had many persons of Indian heritage. We cannot determine the exact percentage. I remember my mother's brother's first wife, Fern, she was also of Indian heritage. Since these people all lived in the 1910-1970's they were not associated with any tribe and only knew about their heritage. They had never traveled to see a tribe...and my mother only knew that her family was from Tennessee, she did not do genealogy and did not know that they were first from Virginia. Illinois had no tribes since after the 1830's they moved to the west, such as the tribes I have heard of in northern Illinois- the Illinois, Kickapoo, etc. But the Cherokee descendants are in southern Illinois. But they have no connection to the tribe since they were removed from their tribe and intermarried with whites. So just because a tribe did not settle in one location does not mean that their are no Cherokee/Indian descendants. (This is the only group of people on the earth that has this sort of problem with claiming ancestry.) Donna --- Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > You won't find it on their website...you'll need to > take a Cherokee > History Class ....:) > > The Catawaba Indians were in SC as were the > Cherokee...there were no > Cherokee in that Wolf Creek area in the 1700s...the > only Cherokee > Villages during that time period were in SC and when > ALL their towns > were burned, Echota/Chota, they moved to GA and > started New > Echota/Chota.....there were some in TN around the > Holston area...but > never any in VA.... > > The Cherokee Nation by the way is familiar with that > Wolf Creek group > and they are not considered legit....there's another > in IL or IN as > well but there were never any Cherokees in those > states either...they > may have family stories as to being Indian, but no > Indians by > Blood.... > > The Cherokee only recognize the Cherokee Nation in > Oklahoma, the > Eastern Band of Cherokee in NC and the UKB band in > Oklahoma... > > Are you a member of this Wolf Creek group? or > associated with them? > > Char > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Donna Fischer > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Well I'd like to hear what the official Cherokee > > Nation both OK & NC have to say about this. We > should > > wirte to them and post their response. > > > > That www.indianvillage.org is supposed to be a > > Cherokee village. Everything with the name Wolf > Creek > > is supposed to be associated with the Cherokee who > > they said populated that area in the 1700's and > > before. > > > > That man Lederer who did exploration in the 1600's > > came across Cherokee's and Catawa. > > > > With all these white historians/researchers saying > > that the Cherokee were in Virginia during the > 1700's > > and before then I would tend to believe them. > > > > That is unless the official tribes, NC & OK, make > some > > sort of a public statement that they, the > Cherokees, > > never resided in SW Virginia. I would have to read > > that on their website. > > > > Good nite for now. > > > > Donna > > > > > > --- Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > This says *valued hunting ground* the Cherokees > had > > > no villages or > > > towns in VA...they never lived there... > > > > > > The Cherokees that went to AR are the old > > > settlers....who eventually > > > ended up in OK... > > > > > > "Prior to the American Revolution, the Southwest > > > Virginia area was a fruitful and valued hunting > > > ground > > > for the Cherokee Indian tribes, to the south," > > > > > > What you'll find in a lot of these old > histories, > > > is: this is a white > > > version of things...you'll find the Indian > version > > > much much > > > different... > > > > > > No Cherokees *lived* in VA before, during or > after > > > the Rev...after the > > > Rev they were all packed up and shipped off to > OK > > > Indian > > > Territory...anything to the contrary is just > white > > > history...my own > > > great gggggrandmother has so much mis info about > her > > > in the white > > > literature it makes me cringe to read some of > it...I > > > mean everything > > > from she was white but adopted by a Cherokee > family, > > > to her father was > > > white and tons more misinfo....to her mother was > > > Cherokee and she was > > > raised by a White family...I mean it just goes > on > > > and on and on...so > > > you really need to be careful... > > > > > > Believe me, VA and Cherokees is a big topic > among > > > the Cherokee and > > > there just wasn't any Cherokee in VA... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Donna Fischer > > > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Contains rare plate of Cherokee Indians in > > > Virginia > > > > and. North Carolina. Acquired by > purchase-exchange > > > > with William Reese Company. ... > > > > > > > > > > > > [PDF] > > > > Annual Report for 2003 > > > > File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML > > > > Contains rare plate of Cherokee Indians in > > > Virginia > > > > and. North Carolina. Acquired by > purchase-exchange > > > > with William Reese Company. ... > > > > www.vahistorical.org/about/annualreport03.pdf > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************************* > > > > Contains rare plate of Cherokee Indians in > > > Virginia > > > > and. North Carolina. Acquired by > purchase-exchange > > > > with William Reese Company. ... > > > > > > > > Lesson plan: Archaeology - Its Methods and Use > - > > > > Becoming a ...Slusser, M. Catherine, and > others, > > > > Teacher's Guide: Virginia Archaeology. .... an > > > Indian > > > > rights activist who is a member of the > Cherokee > > > tribe, > > > > ... > > > > www.vahistorical.org/sva2003/lparch1.htm - 33k > - > > > > Cached > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Extended History > > > > > > > > > > > > This Southwestern Virginia County lies on > the > > > > Alleghany Plateau and is characterized by its > > > > mountainous terrain. A secondary continental > > > divide > > > > seperates the watersheds to the New River > Valley > > > and > > > > the Tennessee River Valley. The Clinch River's > > > > headwater source and the beginning of the > Clinch > > > River > > > > Valley is located a few miles east of > Tazewell, > > > the > > > > county seat. Flowing west and south from > Tazewell, > > > the > > > > Clinch joins the Holston River and forms the > > > Tennesse > > > > River near Knoxville, TN. > > > > The source of the Bluestone River, which runs > east > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

It is a whiteman's myth that Cherokees dropped off the trail of tears on route...they were counted and recorded before they left and counted and recorded once they got there and all were accounted for except for those that died along the way...we got all the names and figures on that.... On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, > >> > My mothers family was from southern Illinois and both > her mother and father had some Native ancestry. One > was told as Cherokee. > > The Trail of Tears did go thru southern Illinois and > it is believed that some Cherokee may have gotten off > the trail here. I will say for sure that the county > my mother lived in and the ajoining couties had many > persons of Indian heritage. We cannot determine the > exact percentage. I remember my mother's brother's > first wife, Fern, she was also of Indian heritage. > Since these people all lived in the 1910-1970's they > were not associated with any tribe and only knew about > their heritage. They had never traveled to see a > tribe...and my mother only knew that her family was > from Tennessee, she did not do genealogy and did not > know that they were first from Virginia. Illinois had > no tribes since after the 1830's they moved to the > west, such as the tribes I have heard of in northern > Illinois- the Illinois, Kickapoo, etc. But the > Cherokee descendants are in southern Illinois. But > they have no connection to the tribe since they were > removed from their tribe and intermarried with whites. > > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us