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    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee
    2. I am no expert on DNA analysis but could it be used to determine Indian Triabal blood? H Barry -------------- Original message from "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > Yes very true...1/16? they've lowered it...at one time it was at least > 1/4 but even that blood quantum level is getting rare....:( > > The Europeans started that Blood Quantum theory...and in some cases > when it came to land alotments - most 1/2 blood and above wouldn't > admit they were over 1/2 or listed their spouses as white, because if > you were 1/2 and above blood, you had to have a guardian to have land > and many didn't want that, so they fudged on their blood quantum > levels...lol...sorry, but that blood quantum thing is just plain > crazy...anyway, if you were less than 1/2 blood you didn't need a > guardian to own land and they would put it in your name... > > Most Indians know that the BIA blood quantum is really skewed and > don't pay much attention to it....likewise if you were say Cherokee > but also intermarried into another tribe of Indians, only the blood > quantum for Cherokee was counted on the Dawes... > > So that whole blood quantum thing is a real joke.... > > Char > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, D Detring wrote: > > > > I descend from a Cherokee ancestor that was from Rutherford Co. NC and went to > Gilmer Co. GA. Cherokee research is very difficult. And having Indian blood > was not something that was talked about in those days; it was kept in the > closet. The series "Cherokee by Blood" is an interesting source. I suppose it > you have a male line, maybe DNA genealogy would be interesting. > > > > A couple of years ago, many were searching for their Indian Roots to get > college scholarship money for their children. The research is not a easy task > and if I remember correctly you needed to be at least 1/16 Indian in most cases. > > > > If most of the Indian ancesty legends could be proved, one is usually greater > than 1/128th Indian. It makes an interesting case but it is not something that > the Indians or the government will recognize. > > > > Happy Searching, > > Dawn in MO > > Researching all Dement lines > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn > how. > > > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > ydrive_packup_042008 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > or > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > Coats Archive > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    04/02/2008 07:37:30
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee
    2. Donna Fischer
    3. I have read about some person's using it and it came out that they had Asian ancestry. But yes it is supposed to be in the DNA make-up. Donna --- bary4579@bellsouth.net wrote: > I am no expert on DNA analysis but could it be used > to determine Indian Triabal blood? H Barry > -------------- Original message from "Coats Family > History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > > > > > Yes very true...1/16? they've lowered it...at one > time it was at least > > 1/4 but even that blood quantum level is getting > rare....:( > > > > The Europeans started that Blood Quantum > theory...and in some cases > > when it came to land alotments - most 1/2 blood > and above wouldn't > > admit they were over 1/2 or listed their spouses > as white, because if > > you were 1/2 and above blood, you had to have a > guardian to have land > > and many didn't want that, so they fudged on their > blood quantum > > levels...lol...sorry, but that blood quantum thing > is just plain > > crazy...anyway, if you were less than 1/2 blood > you didn't need a > > guardian to own land and they would put it in your > name... > > > > Most Indians know that the BIA blood quantum is > really skewed and > > don't pay much attention to it....likewise if you > were say Cherokee > > but also intermarried into another tribe of > Indians, only the blood > > quantum for Cherokee was counted on the Dawes... > > > > So that whole blood quantum thing is a real > joke.... > > > > Char > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, D Detring wrote: > > > > > > I descend from a Cherokee ancestor that was from > Rutherford Co. NC and went to > > Gilmer Co. GA. Cherokee research is very > difficult. And having Indian blood > > was not something that was talked about in those > days; it was kept in the > > closet. The series "Cherokee by Blood" is an > interesting source. I suppose it > > you have a male line, maybe DNA genealogy would be > interesting. > > > > > > A couple of years ago, many were searching for > their Indian Roots to get > > college scholarship money for their children. The > research is not a easy task > > and if I remember correctly you needed to be at > least 1/16 Indian in most cases. > > > > > > If most of the Indian ancesty legends could be > proved, one is usually greater > > than 1/128th Indian. It makes an interesting case > but it is not something that > > the Indians or the government will recognize. > > > > > > Happy Searching, > > > Dawn in MO > > > Researching all Dement lines > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer > files or keep extra copies. Learn > > how. > > > > > > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > > > ydrive_packup_042008 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the > Artist's Tribal > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee > Style, Cherokee Heritage > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > > or > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male > surnamed Coats or > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA > project: > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > > > > Coats Archive > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

    04/02/2008 12:45:09
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee
    2. Coats Family History
    3. You can not tell tribal blood...what they have done in some cases is found individual Haplogroups which correspond with various Indian Tribes or have traced an Individual in a tribe back to a common haplogroup...but DNA will not tell you if you are Indian or which tribe...that's DNA used in Family research, what they could do with a much wider test of an individual's DNA I don't know, I don't think they know yet... Char On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM, <bary4579@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I am no expert on DNA analysis but could it be used to determine Indian Triabal blood? H Barry > -------------- Original message from "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > > > > Yes very true...1/16? they've lowered it...at one time it was at least > > 1/4 but even that blood quantum level is getting rare....:( > > > > The Europeans started that Blood Quantum theory...and in some cases > > when it came to land alotments - most 1/2 blood and above wouldn't > > admit they were over 1/2 or listed their spouses as white, because if > > you were 1/2 and above blood, you had to have a guardian to have land > > and many didn't want that, so they fudged on their blood quantum > > levels...lol...sorry, but that blood quantum thing is just plain > > crazy...anyway, if you were less than 1/2 blood you didn't need a > > guardian to own land and they would put it in your name... > > > > Most Indians know that the BIA blood quantum is really skewed and > > don't pay much attention to it....likewise if you were say Cherokee > > but also intermarried into another tribe of Indians, only the blood > > quantum for Cherokee was counted on the Dawes... > > > > So that whole blood quantum thing is a real joke.... > > > > Char > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, D Detring wrote: > > > > > > I descend from a Cherokee ancestor that was from Rutherford Co. NC and went to > > Gilmer Co. GA. Cherokee research is very difficult. And having Indian blood > > was not something that was talked about in those days; it was kept in the > > closet. The series "Cherokee by Blood" is an interesting source. I suppose it > > you have a male line, maybe DNA genealogy would be interesting. > > > > > > A couple of years ago, many were searching for their Indian Roots to get > > college scholarship money for their children. The research is not a easy task > > and if I remember correctly you needed to be at least 1/16 Indian in most cases. > > > > > > If most of the Indian ancesty legends could be proved, one is usually greater > > than 1/128th Indian. It makes an interesting case but it is not something that > > the Indians or the government will recognize. > > > > > > Happy Searching, > > > Dawn in MO > > > Researching all Dement lines > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn > > how. > > > > > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > > ydrive_packup_042008 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > > or > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > > > Coats Archive > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us

    04/03/2008 02:29:22