Hello Char, Are you aware of this group of people in Virginia who descend from Cherokee Indians? http://www.wolfcreekcherokeetribe.com/ They are not an official tribe with federal recognition but are a group of Chereokee descendants. This would most likely be the group that persons without tribal affiliation would need to check with. Many people know that their ancestors were not enrolled in a tribe in the early part of the 1900's. That is far too recent. We are looking at descendency back in the 1700's. I think that this group may have some resources that anyone interested in finding their Cherokee roots could use. http://www.wolfcreekcherokeetribe.com/ Donna --- Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, in most of these cases you can not prove any > Indian > Ancestry....unless you can find I don't know...old > jounals...there are > many grandma was a *Cherokee Princess* family > stories but most of them > are not true and unless you are associated with or > member of one of > the tribes you can't prove you are Indian... > > You might look on the Guion Miller roll, that was a > roll taken in the > early 1900s, shows where folks were living at the > time the made > application for damages they suffered when moved > from their homeland > etc or suffered from whites taking their land in the > east... > > But I have to tell you, unless you can find > documentation that you are > indeed Cherokee, you are not recognized by the > Federal Government as > Cherokee...let's see I think there is one state > recognized tribe in > AL... > > The Cherokee in North Carolina now have closed > enrollment which means > they are not enrolling anyone else, they have a > blood quantum as well, > which keeps changing so not sure what it is now... > > Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma requires that you be > able to trace back to > a Cherokee Ancestor on the Dawes Roll...even if > you're Cherokee, if > you don't have an Ancestor on that roll, you can not > become a Citizen > of the Tribe... > > Char > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Donna Fischer > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hello my question is: > > > > But what about people who were say 1/4 Cherokee > > ancestry when they moved to Wilson Co. Tennessee > from > > Virginia in say 1805. They could have been > related to > > the Cherokee that were located in Virginia in the > > 1700's. How would you trace that since they may > not > > have claimed being a part of the tribe in the late > > 1700's since they did not live with the tribe? > And > > may not have even known early in their life who > their > > father was. Then what would you use to find the > > Cherokee ancestry? > > > > Donna > > > > > > --- Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Judy, you won't happen to be related to the Mrs. > > > Bean that Nancy Ward > > > saved would you? > > > > > > Just wondering.... > > > > > > I think most records for Indians are on the > > > rolls...or the recognized > > > tribes...for Cherokee it's the old rolls in NC > or > > > the Dawes in > > > Oklahoma....but those are the only *official* > > > records that I know > > > of... > > > > > > Char > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Judy Bean > > > <judybean@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > > I am trying to find out if there is anyone who > > > researches possible Cherokee ancestry in Wilson > > > County, or if there is a website on that topic. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the > > > Artist's Tribal > > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee > Style, > > > Cherokee Heritage > > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > > > or > > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a > male > > > surnamed Coats or > > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA > project: > > > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > > > > > Coats Archive > > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Like movies? 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Oh, with all due respect folks...this is not a Cherokee Tribe....now with that said, I do believe there is a *real* group of Cherokee in TN but exactly where I don't know...I also know that TN is going to recognize some of these groups, which I don't know or what their requirements are, I don't know...however, most states don't have a really good process for recognition purposes since this is all rather new to them...the requirements for Federal recognition are much higher... You really need to be careful with these groups....I mean really really careful...some of them will sell you memberships and give you a card, some encourage illegal immigrants to join...these types of groups are popping up all over the country and most of them are not legit, currently if it's not listed on the DOI websites as recognized either Federal or State recognition, they are not considered a legitimate *tribe*.... You'll get seriously snukered if you're not aware....:( There are two and only two Federally Recognized Cherokee Tribes - one on the Qualla Reservation in NC and the other in Tahlequah Oklahoma...there is only 1 state recognized Cherokee tribe and I believe that is in AL That's it... Anyone can claim Indian Ancestry it's a whole nuther thing to be able to prove it...so be aware...:) Also be aware many folks will snucker you into thinking they know all about the traditional culture...unless you are Indian, live on a reservation or were raised Indian and then all families and traditions are different, you won't know what is or is not traditional and these folks have no clue what any of the traditions are... Here is some insight into how Indians view *wannabees*: http://threeoaks.dakotablogs.com/2008/02/03/ Char On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello Char, > > Are you aware of this group of people in Virginia who > descend from Cherokee Indians? > > http://www.wolfcreekcherokeetribe.com/ > > They are not an official tribe with federal > recognition but are a group of Chereokee descendants. > This would most likely be the group that persons > without tribal affiliation would need to check with. > > Many people know that their ancestors were not > enrolled in a tribe in the early part of the 1900's. > That is far too recent. We are looking at descendency > back in the 1700's. I think that this group may have > some resources that anyone interested in finding their > Cherokee roots could use. > > http://www.wolfcreekcherokeetribe.com/ > > > Donna > > --- Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Sorry, in most of these cases you can not prove any > > Indian > > Ancestry....unless you can find I don't know...old > > jounals...there are > > many grandma was a *Cherokee Princess* family > > stories but most of them > > are not true and unless you are associated with or > > member of one of > > the tribes you can't prove you are Indian... > > > > You might look on the Guion Miller roll, that was a > > roll taken in the > > early 1900s, shows where folks were living at the > > time the made > > application for damages they suffered when moved > > from their homeland > > etc or suffered from whites taking their land in the > > east... > > > > But I have to tell you, unless you can find > > documentation that you are > > indeed Cherokee, you are not recognized by the > > Federal Government as > > Cherokee...let's see I think there is one state > > recognized tribe in > > AL... > > > > The Cherokee in North Carolina now have closed > > enrollment which means > > they are not enrolling anyone else, they have a > > blood quantum as well, > > which keeps changing so not sure what it is now... > > > > Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma requires that you be > > able to trace back to > > a Cherokee Ancestor on the Dawes Roll...even if > > you're Cherokee, if > > you don't have an Ancestor on that roll, you can not > > become a Citizen > > of the Tribe... > > > > Char > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Donna Fischer > > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hello my question is: > > > > > > But what about people who were say 1/4 Cherokee > > > ancestry when they moved to Wilson Co. Tennessee > > from > > > Virginia in say 1805. They could have been > > related to > > > the Cherokee that were located in Virginia in the > > > 1700's. How would you trace that since they may > > not > > > have claimed being a part of the tribe in the late > > > 1700's since they did not live with the tribe? > > And > > > may not have even known early in their life who > > their > > > father was. Then what would you use to find the > > > Cherokee ancestry? > > > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > --- Coats Family History > > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Judy, you won't happen to be related to the Mrs. > > > > Bean that Nancy Ward > > > > saved would you? > > > > > > > > Just wondering.... > > > > > > > > I think most records for Indians are on the > > > > rolls...or the recognized > > > > tribes...for Cherokee it's the old rolls in NC > > or > > > > the Dawes in > > > > Oklahoma....but those are the only *official* > > > > records that I know > > > > of... > > > > > > > > Char > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Judy Bean > > > > <judybean@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > > > I am trying to find out if there is anyone who > > > > researches possible Cherokee ancestry in Wilson > > > > County, or if there is a website on that topic. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email > > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > > and > > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the > > > > Artist's Tribal > > > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee > > Style, > > > > Cherokee Heritage > > > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > > > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > > > > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > > > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > > > > or > > > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > > > > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a > > male > > > > surnamed Coats or > > > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA > > project: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > > > > > > > Coats Archive > > > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email > > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > > and > > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > Like movies? 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