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    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Turners of Wilson Co.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brownsnest Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: MARTHA TURNER WAS NAMED MOST LIKELY FROM ONE OF THE EARLY TURNER MEN'S WIVES, MARTHA GRANDERSON; MY FATHER'S NAME WAS JESSE GRANDERSON, FROM THIS SAME WOMAN. I WILL TRY TO FIND OUT THE YEARS SHE LIVED, BUT I KNOW SHE LIVED IN VA. NB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/03/2008 12:34:48
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Was Wilson co Tn Washington co North Carolina at one time?
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brownsnest Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2570.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I WOULD GO TO THE WASHINGTON CO TN WEBSITE, AND POST THIS SAME QUESTION; I WAS UNDER THE ESTIMATION THAT LAND WAS TERRITORIAL UNTIL STATES WERE FORMED, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY COULD CALL WILSON CO., IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STATE, A COUNTY "WASHINGTON" WHICH IS IN THE UPPER CORNER OF THE STATE. IT MAY BE POSSIBLE.....DON'T KNOW. NB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/03/2008 12:27:09
    1. [TNWILSON] Ernest Porter Turner md. to Hearn and Armenia Turner
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brownsnest Surnames: TURNER, HEARN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2572/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have info regarding Ernest and his marriage to Jennie or Jenny Hearn and then around 1900 - 1905, he married, in TX, Armenia Turner? He had several children by both wives......was not certain he ever divorced first wife. Any info? brownsnest Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/03/2008 11:36:45
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Turners of Wilson Co.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brownsnest Surnames: TURNER, HEARN, CARTWRIGHT, MAJOR, HAMNER, ANDREWS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, I am sorry, I have no info on the Richardsons. I hope someone is maintaining the Turner cemetery. I have a few pics from there. brownsnest (Nan) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/03/2008 11:30:30
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Joyce G. Reece
    3. Many of the rolls were taken by white men who knew how to write in English....not Cherokee. If someone gave the census taker a Cherokee name and he didn't know how to spell it he would write down something else....something in English. Many Indians got English spelled names in that manner. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salisbury, Rita" <RHOSTER@seaford.k12.de.us> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > Kudos for reminding people that not all books and rolls are accurate or > complete. I have a collateral ancestor who was given early reservation > land in Alabama because she was a Native. Her full sister (my lineal > ancestor) would have been the same, but neither appears on a tribal > roll. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sara Binkley Tarpley > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:44 PM > To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > > Yes, and it is important not to discount family stories. Just label > them as family stories or family tradition until you can prove them. > As so many have stated, that may never happen with traditions of > Native American ancestry; but it would be a mistake to discard the > story. > > My roots are firmly in NC, VA, and TN. So, when I started > researching, I thought that the story that one of my > great-grandmothers was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, had children > by her first husband in Mexico, came to New Orleans where she met my > great-grandfather, and then had my grandmother in Nashville was just a > little too exotic to be true. Every record confirmed it. I have also > found that family stories can carry a grain of truth even when they > are not entirely accurate; so, while I don't necessarily believe them, > I never discount them entirely. > > Sara Binkley Tarpley > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Joyce G. Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > wrote: >> There are actually few very old families in the southeast who will not > have >> 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a fact BUT as to > researching >> YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit tricky. It isn't > like your >> usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many N.A. reserchers who > don't >> comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as opposed to 'want-to-be'. >> >> . >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release Date: 4/3/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

    04/03/2008 10:31:28
    1. [TNWILSON] Sources of Virginia's Indians for research
    2. Joyce G. Reece
    3. Would that be the 1835 Ross treaty? Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Fwd: Re: Sources of Virginia's Indians for research > But no Cherokee *lived* there...the early Cherokee towns were in that > NW corner of SC...it was called the South Carolina Back Country in the > late 1700s.... > > Ah, you've hit the Anti-Cherokee Nation faction group on that history > link....:) They're just libel to tell you anything....:) They also > say that any Cherokee who doesn't live in the 14 counties of NE > Oklahoma is a *traitor* and should not be a member of the Cherokee > Nation...sure you want to go there? This theory of theirs is based on > an unratified treaty... > > Good luck with your research though...what I've found is most folks > just can't find the documentation to support their *Indian Ancestry* > if they can't trace back to one of the rolls...but hey, hope springs > eternal....:) > > Char > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Donna Fischer > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Did anyone see this? >> >> I just looked up a Cherokee.org And it does show SW >> Virgina as Cherokee territory. Donna >> >> >> http://www.cherokeehistory.com/map1.html >> >> http://www.cherokeehistory.com >> >> >> >> --- Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > This I apparently sent to myself by accident. It >> > looks like a excellent site. Wonderful maps. >> > Donna >> > >> > Note: forwarded message attached. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one >> > month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. >> > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> > the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster >> Total Access, No Cost. >> http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > or > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > Coats Archive > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release Date: 4/3/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

    04/03/2008 09:37:10
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Donna Fischer
    3. Hi, Well if the rolls are not even correct, then they should not be depended upon to determine who is or who is not a Cherokee. They should only be used for the welfare system to the tribal persons who were living in OK at that time. Now the North Carolina Cherokee reservation, that more recently received federal recognition may not be on the rolls either, since they may not have been a reservation at the time the rolls were taken. The way I see it is that the Rolls were a instrument of the government, to limit access to government funds to Indians, and allotment of land. Most of the tribes had a requirement of being 1/4 Indian to become a part of the tribe. The Cherokee had a 1/16th blood because of the great influx of whites who had married/had children with the Cherokee. But this instrument of identifying Indians to get benefits by checking rolls is not the correct or most exhaustive way to find out if you have Native ancestry. There are people who were of Native/white heritage in the 1700's, and their descendants may not have married other Indians later in the years where they became absorbed in the white race. So the Rolls would have nothing to do with their genealogy search for their heritage, since their tribal affiliation would have ended by the late 1700's. So telling someone like this to search the rolls is incorrect and has nothing to do with their genealogy. And now we hear that the rolls can be incorrect and some think that the historians who write history books are incorrect. So it appears everyone can be incorrect, and there is nothing to go on. So why have we not seen a history book written by the Cherokee tribe, NC or OK. focusing on the early history?? Whatever I have seen that was written by one of the Cherokee tribes speaks little about the days before the Trail of Tears. (Very little on the Indians in the 1700's and before.) It usually focuses on the days leading up to the Trail of Tears, and the reestablishment in OK and what happened along the way and the people who hid out in NC. The Cherokee nations need to write more books and tell the world their story. Genealogy is a hot topic today. Donna --- "Joyce G. Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Many of the rolls were taken by white men who knew > how to write in > English....not Cherokee. If someone gave the census > taker a Cherokee name > and he didn't know how to spell it he would write > down something > else....something in English. Many Indians got > English spelled names in > that manner. > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Salisbury, Rita" <RHOSTER@seaford.k12.de.us> > To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > > > > Kudos for reminding people that not all books and > rolls are accurate or > > complete. I have a collateral ancestor who was > given early reservation > > land in Alabama because she was a Native. Her full > sister (my lineal > > ancestor) would have been the same, but neither > appears on a tribal > > roll. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Sara Binkley Tarpley > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:44 PM > > To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > > > > Yes, and it is important not to discount family > stories. Just label > > them as family stories or family tradition until > you can prove them. > > As so many have stated, that may never happen with > traditions of > > Native American ancestry; but it would be a > mistake to discard the > > story. > > > > My roots are firmly in NC, VA, and TN. So, when I > started > > researching, I thought that the story that one of > my > > great-grandmothers was born in Buenos Aires, > Argentina, had children > > by her first husband in Mexico, came to New > Orleans where she met my > > great-grandfather, and then had my grandmother in > Nashville was just a > > little too exotic to be true. Every record > confirmed it. I have also > > found that family stories can carry a grain of > truth even when they > > are not entirely accurate; so, while I don't > necessarily believe them, > > I never discount them entirely. > > > > Sara Binkley Tarpley > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Joyce G. Reece > <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > > wrote: > >> There are actually few very old families in the > southeast who will not > > have > >> 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a > fact BUT as to > > researching > >> YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit > tricky. It isn't > > like your > >> usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many > N.A. reserchers who > > don't > >> comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as > opposed to 'want-to-be'. > >> > >> . > >> Joyce Gaston Reece > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - > Release Date: 4/3/2008 > > 10:48 AM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. 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    04/03/2008 08:36:44
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Turners of Wilson Co.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emcraw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My gr grandfather was Landon Brett Richardson. In 1858 he married Martha Turner in DeKalb Co TN. In 1860 they are living in Wilson Co. Also in the household was Martha Turner aged 11. Landon was in the CSA and was a Union Prisoner for 2 1/2 yrs. In Dec of 1865 he married Nancy Frances Jennings in Wilson Co. They were my great grandparents. The last record I have of Marth Turner Richardson or the younger Martha Turner is the 1860 census. Do you have any info on either of them? Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/03/2008 08:25:42
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Salisbury, Rita
    3. Kudos for reminding people that not all books and rolls are accurate or complete. I have a collateral ancestor who was given early reservation land in Alabama because she was a Native. Her full sister (my lineal ancestor) would have been the same, but neither appears on a tribal roll. -----Original Message----- From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sara Binkley Tarpley Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:44 PM To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots Yes, and it is important not to discount family stories. Just label them as family stories or family tradition until you can prove them. As so many have stated, that may never happen with traditions of Native American ancestry; but it would be a mistake to discard the story. My roots are firmly in NC, VA, and TN. So, when I started researching, I thought that the story that one of my great-grandmothers was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, had children by her first husband in Mexico, came to New Orleans where she met my great-grandfather, and then had my grandmother in Nashville was just a little too exotic to be true. Every record confirmed it. I have also found that family stories can carry a grain of truth even when they are not entirely accurate; so, while I don't necessarily believe them, I never discount them entirely. Sara Binkley Tarpley On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Joyce G. Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > There are actually few very old families in the southeast who will not have > 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a fact BUT as to researching > YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit tricky. It isn't like your > usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many N.A. reserchers who don't > comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as opposed to 'want-to-be'. > > . > Joyce Gaston Reece > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2008 07:52:59
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Joyce G. Reece
    3. There are actually few very old families in the southeast who will not have 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a fact BUT as to researching YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit tricky. It isn't like your usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many N.A. reserchers who don't comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as opposed to 'want-to-be'. . Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > History books unfortunately can be wrong...as with old county > histories, without documentation to an original source record, which > the rolls would be, a claim of Cherokee Ancestry is only a family > story... > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Donna Fischer > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Well that is what the history books say and that is >> Virginias and our history. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Virginia#Native_Americans >> >> Donna >> >> --- Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> > No, most of that VA and IN info is wrong...Cherokees >> > have never been >> > that far north...sorry.... >> > >> > Char >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Donna Fischer >> > <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > > No the Lumbee Indians are not part of the Eastern >> > Band >> > > of Cherokee. They are in North Caolina, but are >> > near >> > > the coast. Today they are in commerce and >> > banking. >> > > >> > > I receive a monthly email regarding the state of >> > > Virgina called Virginia is for Lovers. And I have >> > > found the history of Virginia on these sites. >> > They >> > > have talked about the early Cherokees and showed >> > maps >> > > of their large early territory which did include >> > the >> > > western side of Virginia, and as I remember went >> > into >> > > even what we call Indiana today. >> > > >> > > Here is a link on a history of the Indian groups >> > in >> > > what we today call Virginia. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Virginia#Native_Americans >> > > >> > > Hope this link works. >> > > >> > > Donna >> > > --- bary4579@bellsouth.net wrote: >> > > >> > > > Are the Lumbee Indians part of the Cherokee >> > Nations? >> > > > H Barry >> > > > -------------- Original message from "Coats >> > Family >> > > > History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: >> > -------------- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Judy, you won't happen to be related to the >> > Mrs. >> > > > Bean that Nancy Ward >> > > > > saved would you? >> > > > > >> > > > > Just wondering.... >> > > > > >> > > > > I think most records for Indians are on the >> > > > rolls...or the recognized >> > > > > tribes...for Cherokee it's the old rolls in NC >> > or >> > > > the Dawes in >> > > > > Oklahoma....but those are the only *official* >> > > > records that I know >> > > > > of... >> > > > > >> > > > > Char >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Judy Bean >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > I am trying to find out if there is anyone >> > who >> > > > researches possible Cherokee >> > > > > ancestry in Wilson County, or if there is a >> > > > website on that topic. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------- >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> > > > email to >> > > > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> > > > > the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > A shameless plug for my web activities: >> > > > > >> > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the >> > > > Artist's Tribal >> > > > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee >> > > > Style, Cherokee Heritage >> > > > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> > > > > >> > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> > > > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> > > > > >> > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> > > > > >> > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org >> > > > > >> > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> > > > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> > > > > >> > > > > Cherokee Artists Association >> > > > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> > > > > >> > > > > Cherokees of Orange County >> > > > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> > > > > >> > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: >> > > > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime >> > > > > or >> > > > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> > > > > >> > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a >> > male >> > > > surnamed Coats or >> > > > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA >> > > > project: >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Coats Archive >> > > > > http://www.coatsarchive.us >> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------- >> > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> > email >> > > > to >> > > > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> > > > > the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> > email >> > > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >> > and >> > > > the body of the message >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: >> > Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. >> > > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text4.com >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> > the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > A shameless plug for my web activities: >> > >> > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the >> > Artist's Tribal >> > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, >> > Cherokee Heritage >> > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> > >> > Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> > >> > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org >> > >> > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> > >> > Cherokee Artists Association >> > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> > >> > Cherokees of Orange County >> > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> > >> > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: >> > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime >> > or >> > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> > >> > Can't find the records you need and you're a male >> > surnamed Coats or >> > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: >> > >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True >> > >> > Coats Archive >> > http://www.coatsarchive.us >> > >> === message truncated === >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster >> Total Access, No Cost. >> http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > or > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > Coats Archive > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release Date: 4/3/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

    04/03/2008 07:22:43
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Joyce G. Reece
    3. The Lumbee are now officially considered a separate tribe/nation. They were 'absorbed' into the Cherokee at the time of the forced removal. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: <bary4579@bellsouth.net> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > Are the Lumbee Indians part of the Cherokee Nations? H Barry > -------------- Original message from "Coats Family History" > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > > >> Judy, you won't happen to be related to the Mrs. Bean that Nancy Ward >> saved would you? >> >> Just wondering.... >> >> I think most records for Indians are on the rolls...or the recognized >> tribes...for Cherokee it's the old rolls in NC or the Dawes in >> Oklahoma....but those are the only *official* records that I know >> of... >> >> Char >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Judy Bean wrote: >> > I am trying to find out if there is anyone who researches possible >> > Cherokee >> ancestry in Wilson County, or if there is a website on that topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org >> >> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> >> Cherokee Artists Association >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> >> Cherokees of Orange County >> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> >> Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: >> http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime >> or >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> >> Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or >> varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True >> >> Coats Archive >> http://www.coatsarchive.us >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release Date: 4/3/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

    04/03/2008 07:08:18
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Joyce G. Reece
    3. Theres a LOT of web sites pertaining to Cherokee research. One of the best is www.accessgenealogy.com Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> To: "Judy Bean" <judybean@mindspring.com>; <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > Judy, you won't happen to be related to the Mrs. Bean that Nancy Ward > saved would you? > > Just wondering.... > > I think most records for Indians are on the rolls...or the recognized > tribes...for Cherokee it's the old rolls in NC or the Dawes in > Oklahoma....but those are the only *official* records that I know > of... > > Char > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Judy Bean <judybean@mindspring.com> > wrote: >> I am trying to find out if there is anyone who researches possible >> Cherokee ancestry in Wilson County, or if there is a website on that >> topic. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > or > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > Coats Archive > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release Date: 4/3/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

    04/03/2008 06:58:18
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots
    2. Sara Binkley Tarpley
    3. Yes, and it is important not to discount family stories. Just label them as family stories or family tradition until you can prove them. As so many have stated, that may never happen with traditions of Native American ancestry; but it would be a mistake to discard the story. My roots are firmly in NC, VA, and TN. So, when I started researching, I thought that the story that one of my great-grandmothers was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, had children by her first husband in Mexico, came to New Orleans where she met my great-grandfather, and then had my grandmother in Nashville was just a little too exotic to be true. Every record confirmed it. I have also found that family stories can carry a grain of truth even when they are not entirely accurate; so, while I don't necessarily believe them, I never discount them entirely. Sara Binkley Tarpley On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Joyce G. Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > There are actually few very old families in the southeast who will not have > 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a fact BUT as to researching > YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit tricky. It isn't like your > usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many N.A. reserchers who don't > comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as opposed to 'want-to-be'. > > . > Joyce Gaston Reece > >

    04/03/2008 06:43:56
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Fwd: Re: Sources of Virginia's Indians for research
    2. Coats Family History
    3. But no Cherokee *lived* there...the early Cherokee towns were in that NW corner of SC...it was called the South Carolina Back Country in the late 1700s.... Ah, you've hit the Anti-Cherokee Nation faction group on that history link....:) They're just libel to tell you anything....:) They also say that any Cherokee who doesn't live in the 14 counties of NE Oklahoma is a *traitor* and should not be a member of the Cherokee Nation...sure you want to go there? This theory of theirs is based on an unratified treaty... Good luck with your research though...what I've found is most folks just can't find the documentation to support their *Indian Ancestry* if they can't trace back to one of the rolls...but hey, hope springs eternal....:) Char On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Did anyone see this? > > I just looked up a Cherokee.org And it does show SW > Virgina as Cherokee territory. Donna > > > http://www.cherokeehistory.com/map1.html > > http://www.cherokeehistory.com > > > > --- Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > This I apparently sent to myself by accident. It > > looks like a excellent site. Wonderful maps. > > Donna > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one > > month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us

    04/03/2008 02:40:49
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee
    2. Coats Family History
    3. You can not tell tribal blood...what they have done in some cases is found individual Haplogroups which correspond with various Indian Tribes or have traced an Individual in a tribe back to a common haplogroup...but DNA will not tell you if you are Indian or which tribe...that's DNA used in Family research, what they could do with a much wider test of an individual's DNA I don't know, I don't think they know yet... Char On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM, <bary4579@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I am no expert on DNA analysis but could it be used to determine Indian Triabal blood? H Barry > -------------- Original message from "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > > > > Yes very true...1/16? they've lowered it...at one time it was at least > > 1/4 but even that blood quantum level is getting rare....:( > > > > The Europeans started that Blood Quantum theory...and in some cases > > when it came to land alotments - most 1/2 blood and above wouldn't > > admit they were over 1/2 or listed their spouses as white, because if > > you were 1/2 and above blood, you had to have a guardian to have land > > and many didn't want that, so they fudged on their blood quantum > > levels...lol...sorry, but that blood quantum thing is just plain > > crazy...anyway, if you were less than 1/2 blood you didn't need a > > guardian to own land and they would put it in your name... > > > > Most Indians know that the BIA blood quantum is really skewed and > > don't pay much attention to it....likewise if you were say Cherokee > > but also intermarried into another tribe of Indians, only the blood > > quantum for Cherokee was counted on the Dawes... > > > > So that whole blood quantum thing is a real joke.... > > > > Char > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, D Detring wrote: > > > > > > I descend from a Cherokee ancestor that was from Rutherford Co. NC and went to > > Gilmer Co. GA. Cherokee research is very difficult. And having Indian blood > > was not something that was talked about in those days; it was kept in the > > closet. The series "Cherokee by Blood" is an interesting source. I suppose it > > you have a male line, maybe DNA genealogy would be interesting. > > > > > > A couple of years ago, many were searching for their Indian Roots to get > > college scholarship money for their children. The research is not a easy task > > and if I remember correctly you needed to be at least 1/16 Indian in most cases. > > > > > > If most of the Indian ancesty legends could be proved, one is usually greater > > than 1/128th Indian. It makes an interesting case but it is not something that > > the Indians or the government will recognize. > > > > > > Happy Searching, > > > Dawn in MO > > > Researching all Dement lines > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn > > how. > > > > > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > > ydrive_packup_042008 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > > > Cherokee Artists Association > > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > > > Cherokees of Orange County > > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > > or > > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > > > Coats Archive > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us

    04/03/2008 02:29:22
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Sources of Virginia's Indians foresearch
    2. Coats Family History
    3. It is a whiteman's myth that Cherokees dropped off the trail of tears on route...they were counted and recorded before they left and counted and recorded once they got there and all were accounted for except for those that died along the way...we got all the names and figures on that.... On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, > >> > My mothers family was from southern Illinois and both > her mother and father had some Native ancestry. One > was told as Cherokee. > > The Trail of Tears did go thru southern Illinois and > it is believed that some Cherokee may have gotten off > the trail here. I will say for sure that the county > my mother lived in and the ajoining couties had many > persons of Indian heritage. We cannot determine the > exact percentage. I remember my mother's brother's > first wife, Fern, she was also of Indian heritage. > Since these people all lived in the 1910-1970's they > were not associated with any tribe and only knew about > their heritage. They had never traveled to see a > tribe...and my mother only knew that her family was > from Tennessee, she did not do genealogy and did not > know that they were first from Virginia. Illinois had > no tribes since after the 1830's they moved to the > west, such as the tribes I have heard of in northern > Illinois- the Illinois, Kickapoo, etc. But the > Cherokee descendants are in southern Illinois. But > they have no connection to the tribe since they were > removed from their tribe and intermarried with whites. > > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us

    04/03/2008 02:23:24
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Sources of Virginia's Indians foresearch
    2. Coats Family History
    3. Each route was a different group... On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Sara Binkley Tarpley <sarabtarpley@gmail.com> wrote: > I had always thought of the Trail of Tears as a single route. Not so. Here > is a link to a map showing several routes. > > http://ngeorgia.com/history/trailoftearsmap2.html > > My mother's family was from Madison Co., NC. Our family tradition was that > she had Cherokee heritage, and she certainly looked as if she did. However, > I have always known that it would be impossible to prove. > > Sara Binkley Tarpley > Nashville, TN > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:12 PM, <JENKINSRAWHIDE@aol.com> wrote: > > > Donna, I noticed you said the trail of tears was also in Illinois and this > > makes me wonder just how wide or how many trails there were as my hometown > > of > > Lebanon, Tennessee which is 28 miles east of Nashville has historical > > markers > > indicating that the Trail of Tears ran through here. > > > > Logan Jenkins > > _Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com_ (mailto:Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com) > > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > ( > > http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016 > > ) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime or http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us

    04/03/2008 02:20:52
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee
    2. I am no expert on DNA analysis but could it be used to determine Indian Triabal blood? H Barry -------------- Original message from "Coats Family History" <coats.genealogy@gmail.com>: -------------- > Yes very true...1/16? they've lowered it...at one time it was at least > 1/4 but even that blood quantum level is getting rare....:( > > The Europeans started that Blood Quantum theory...and in some cases > when it came to land alotments - most 1/2 blood and above wouldn't > admit they were over 1/2 or listed their spouses as white, because if > you were 1/2 and above blood, you had to have a guardian to have land > and many didn't want that, so they fudged on their blood quantum > levels...lol...sorry, but that blood quantum thing is just plain > crazy...anyway, if you were less than 1/2 blood you didn't need a > guardian to own land and they would put it in your name... > > Most Indians know that the BIA blood quantum is really skewed and > don't pay much attention to it....likewise if you were say Cherokee > but also intermarried into another tribe of Indians, only the blood > quantum for Cherokee was counted on the Dawes... > > So that whole blood quantum thing is a real joke.... > > Char > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, D Detring wrote: > > > > I descend from a Cherokee ancestor that was from Rutherford Co. NC and went to > Gilmer Co. GA. Cherokee research is very difficult. And having Indian blood > was not something that was talked about in those days; it was kept in the > closet. The series "Cherokee by Blood" is an interesting source. I suppose it > you have a male line, maybe DNA genealogy would be interesting. > > > > A couple of years ago, many were searching for their Indian Roots to get > college scholarship money for their children. The research is not a easy task > and if I remember correctly you needed to be at least 1/16 Indian in most cases. > > > > If most of the Indian ancesty legends could be proved, one is usually greater > than 1/128th Indian. It makes an interesting case but it is not something that > the Indians or the government will recognize. > > > > Happy Searching, > > Dawn in MO > > Researching all Dement lines > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn > how. > > > hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > ydrive_packup_042008 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: > http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime > or > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > > Can't find the records you need and you're a male surnamed Coats or > varitation, order a DNA kit to join our DNA project: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A59642&special=True > > Coats Archive > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    04/02/2008 07:37:30
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Sources of Virginia's Indians foresearch
    2. Donna, I noticed you said the trail of tears was also in Illinois and this makes me wonder just how wide or how many trails there were as my hometown of Lebanon, Tennessee which is 28 miles east of Nashville has historical markers indicating that the Trail of Tears ran through here. Logan Jenkins _Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com_ (mailto:Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

    04/02/2008 04:12:23
    1. Re: [TNWILSON] Sources of Virginia's Indians foresearch
    2. Sara Binkley Tarpley
    3. I had always thought of the Trail of Tears as a single route. Not so. Here is a link to a map showing several routes. http://ngeorgia.com/history/trailoftearsmap2.html My mother's family was from Madison Co., NC. Our family tradition was that she had Cherokee heritage, and she certainly looked as if she did. However, I have always known that it would be impossible to prove. Sara Binkley Tarpley Nashville, TN On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:12 PM, <JENKINSRAWHIDE@aol.com> wrote: > Donna, I noticed you said the trail of tears was also in Illinois and this > makes me wonder just how wide or how many trails there were as my hometown > of > Lebanon, Tennessee which is 28 miles east of Nashville has historical > markers > indicating that the Trail of Tears ran through here. > > Logan Jenkins > _Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com_ (mailto:Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com) > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > ( > http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/02/2008 03:21:44