This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredragland Surnames: Satterfield, Ragland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2565.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Reuben was married to Elizabeth Ragland (the widow Coson). They lived in District 7 of Wilson Co. But, Reuben also had a farm in District 10 near the farm of his wife's 1st cousin, Pettus Ragland. Pettus and Reuben didn't get along too well. Have a county court document stating that Reuben and Pettus came to blows and Reuben was banned from Pettus' property. Eventually, Reuben and family returned to Sumner Co. where he lived when he married Elizabeth. He died Jan. 29, 1873. He and Elizabeth had eleven children: Martha Ann, Evan Reuben, Judith, Cindrella, Levi Durham, Salina H., Benjamin Marion, Mary Paralee, Samuel James Turner, Elizabeth & Malissa. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Well if it is not a small world. Our County Clerk gave a talk tonight at our genealogy meeting and said that her home state is Tennessee. When asked she said she was from Haywood County, which has a county seat of Brownsville. And her elderly father has written all the records of the names from Trinity Cemetery. She also said that Tina Turner's family was from this area and her original name was not Tina Turner, but that Tina's grandfather drove her grandfather to the church to get married. Isn't that a story. It is so interesting to find that so many persons in Illinois have originated from Tennessee. Donna ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trumbo2 Surnames: Watkins Wadkins Hopkins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2573/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on the following family. I would like to specifically know who the parents of Martin Watkins/Wadkins are. I am particularly interested in any Watkins/Wadkins in Wilson County TN prior to 1830. Possibilities I have found include: 1)RICHARD WATKINS b. 1768 Prince Edward, VA. Died in TN. He Married Catherine Jones 11 Jan 1815. 2) REECE WATKINS b. 1779 VA d. Olglethorpe County GA. He married RACHEL MARTIN. Had son named MOSES bn 1812 died 1884 in Wilson County. Came to TN in 1806. MARTIN WATKINS was born about 1804 in Wilson County TN. He married SARAH HOPKINS born about 1807 in Wilson County TN. (daughter of Stephen HOPKINS) Martin and Sarah were married June 17, 1824 in Wilson County, TN. Martin and Sarah Watkins moved to Illinois (Marion/Fayette Counties) about 1830. Martin and Sarah's children are as follows: 1) Ephriam Watkiins, b. abt. 1825 in TN. Married Elizabeth in TN. She was born abt. 1821 in TN. 2) Stephen Watkins, b. abt. 1828 in TN. Married Isabella Dumbar 12/31/1873 in Marion County. 3) Andrew Watkins b. abt 1830 in IL. (Possibly Hillard/Hardy) 4) Mary Watkins b. abt. 1832 in IL. 5) John Watkins b. abt. 1839 in IL. 6) Isaac Watkins b. abt. 1843 in IL 7) Jane Watkins b. abt. 1847 in IL 8) Nancy Watkins b. abt. 1849 in IL If anyone has any information on these families or any Watkins in Wilson County Prior to 1830, I would love to hear from you. Thank you, Donald Trumbo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Not related, just did some lookups for you in the book, "Marriages of Wilson Co. TN, 1802-1850", by Edythe Rucker Whitley. The following Wadkins/Watkins names appear in this book for the years 1802 to 1830: 1. Frederick Watkins was the bondsman Aug 4, 1815 for the marriage of J. P. Winston to Elizabeth Allen Aug 6, 1815, performed by Isaac Winston, Justice of the Peace 2. FYI - the bondsman for the marriage of Richard Watkins and Catherine Jones was Sam'l Wright. 3. Sally Watkins was married to Peter Harville May 14, 1818 by William Lawrence, JP. Bondsman May 11, 1818 was Turner M. Lawrence. 4. Solomon Watkins was married to Nancy Kirkpatrick March 4, 1823 by Rev Joshua Woollen. (Joshua Woollen was a minister of the CARMEL FREE WILL BAPTIST CHURCH) 5. FYI - the bondsman for the marriage of Martin Wadkins and Sally Hopkins was Obediah Rich. 6. Joel Watkins was the bondsman July 5, 1825, for the marriage of William Taylor to Polly Brown July 7, 1825 performed by John W. Peyton, Justice of the Peace (and my direct ancestor) 7. George W. Watkins married Sarah T. Etherly Nov 27, 1829 with Thos. W. Barksdale as bondsman. ------------------------------------------------ The book, "Index to Wilson Co. TN WILLS, 1802-1861", by Byron Sistler does not list any for the names Wadkins or Watkins. Hope something helps. Kathleen Hill
Anyone showing the Hester's of Wilson Co Tn having Cherokee blood line? Ron Graves Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/nancyward.html > >http://www.innernet.org/tsalagi/gen/pafg25.htm > >http://www.google.com/search?q=Nancy+Bushyhead&hl=en&start=10&sa=N > > >http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0015-0005.html > > >Below is a interesting find for and about surnames: > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.genealogy/msg/dd21c96010a2872e > >Donna > > > > >http://books.google.com/books?id=ERA7ZS0RBCAC&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=nancy+bushyhead&source=web&ots=AJvnc2IUej&sig=sqTkYzcHSsRk3Cq2x1X0RWQ_iDE&hl=en#PPA443,M1 > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. >http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I just went thru the book with the list of names and I did not see the name of Hester. Did anyone else see it? I saw alot of Duncans. http://books.google.com/books?id=ERA7ZS0RBCAC&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=nancy+bushyhead&source=web&ots=AJvnc2IUej&sig=sqTkYzcHSsRk3Cq2x1X0RWQ_iDE&hl=en#PPA443,M1 Donna --- GRAVESRONN@cs.com wrote: > Anyone showing the Hester's of Wilson Co Tn having > Cherokee blood line? > > Ron Graves > > Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/nancyward.html > > > >http://www.innernet.org/tsalagi/gen/pafg25.htm > > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=Nancy+Bushyhead&hl=en&start=10&sa=N > > > > > >http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0015-0005.html > > > > > >Below is a interesting find for and about surnames: > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.genealogy/msg/dd21c96010a2872e > > > >Donna > > > > > > > > > >http://books.google.com/books?id=ERA7ZS0RBCAC&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=nancy+bushyhead&source=web&ots=AJvnc2IUej&sig=sqTkYzcHSsRk3Cq2x1X0RWQ_iDE&hl=en#PPA443,M1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > >You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one > month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > >http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/nancyward.html http://www.innernet.org/tsalagi/gen/pafg25.htm http://www.google.com/search?q=Nancy+Bushyhead&hl=en&start=10&sa=N http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0015-0005.html Below is a interesting find for and about surnames: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.genealogy/msg/dd21c96010a2872e Donna http://books.google.com/books?id=ERA7ZS0RBCAC&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=nancy+bushyhead&source=web&ots=AJvnc2IUej&sig=sqTkYzcHSsRk3Cq2x1X0RWQ_iDE&hl=en#PPA443,M1 ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
I have looked at that census and wondered myself. In 1860 apparently James had passed away for Jane is listed as head of household with Virginia, Thomas, Mary L, Loellen and Zachary. In 1850 Landon is listed in the household of Elizabeth Woodside, 40. Also listed is the following children: Matilda, Parilee and Montelion with the last name written Richard and what looks likea ditto mark at the end of each of their names. It looks like the census taker had abbreviated their last names. I can find nothing further on this Elizabeth Woodside or the the other children. I know that Landon had some connection to Thomas Henry Woodford Richardson who also lived in DeKalb Co. He was born about 1820. A distant cousin has some pictures that his grandfather had and among them is a picture that is identified on the back as T H W Richardson. He must have had some connection for Landon to have had his picture in his things. Another puzzle. In 1850 there is a Susan Richardson, 55, listed as head of household in Roane Co. Also listed is Elizabeth Lak, 20. Clementine Richardson 16, Woodford Richardson, 20, Samuel 15, Sarah J 12 and Walter 8. Another Richardson with the name of Woodford. That isn't a common name.....are they kin? I have copies of the records from his imprisonment at the Union prison camp, but tells me nothing new. I have his service record from the National Archives. I have his wife's widow's pension from the state of Texas. Landon and Nancy Frances and their 5 sons moved to TX about 1875 and I have both their death records. My grandfather was their middle son, born in 1869 in Wilson Co. It is something I will probably never know. But it sure is a puzzle. Thnaks so much for taking the time to email me. I appreciate your time and effort. Ellen
Hello, I have some Tarpley pictures that I got when I went to Tn to see my relatives on the Hawker side of the family. I also have Blythe in my family tree. Pat> From: tnwilson-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNWILSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 260> To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:01:57 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: tarpley/tapley family history (Terrilyn Litvan)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:01:59 -0600> From: Terrilyn Litvan <TPLitvan@acegroup.cc>> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] tarpley/tapley family history> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <47627EC7.7080808@acegroup.cc>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote:> > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> >Author: akinback2> >Surnames: Akin, Tarpley> >Classification: queries> >> >Message Board URL: > >> >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2517.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx> >> >Message Board Post:> >> > > >> Catherine (Bass) Pemberton m/2 Henry Tarpley, 04 September 1865, Wilson > Co., TN. In 1880, Collin Co., TN, they have a daughter S. M., b. ca. > 1879. Could this be your Susie, or else did she m. before the 1900 > census as they apparently do not have a daughter b. 1883 with them in 1900.> > I can help on this after the holidays. Please contact me directly. My > e-mail address is tplitvan@acegroup.cc> > Terry (Phillips) Litvan> Winona, MN> > >I should have read better. It appears my Harvey & Kate may be Henry & Katherine who moved to Collin County. Do you know if he or any brothers fought in the civil war?> >> >Richard Clark Akin> >> >Important Note:> >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> > > >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the TNWILSON list administrator, send an email to> TNWILSON-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the TNWILSON mailing list, send an email to TNWILSON@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of TNWILSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 260> **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
what Blythe names do you have? Pat> From: tnwilson-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNWILSON Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1> To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 01:02:42 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. surnames researching (mccoin)> 2. Marriage (John Ozment)> 3. Re: Marriage (Teresa Elliott)> 4. Re: surnames researching (Teresa Elliott)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:02:59 -0600> From: "mccoin" <mccoin@cosmowireless.net>> Subject: [TNWILSON] surnames researching> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <MHEOICGLJOPDPIADIDGCAEGICOAA.mccoin@cosmowireless.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > In Wilson Co., Alsup, Thorne, Edwards, Morgan, Blythe, Lannom, Patterson,> Sanders, Snyder, Elliott, and more.> In Rutherford/Williamson,> Tignor, Pettus, Batey, Jordan, Thomas, Mason, and more.> > Frances Thorne McCoin> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:41:50 -0800> From: John Ozment <johnozment@hotmail.com>> Subject: [TNWILSON] Marriage> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BLU126-W19EFB15452FA63C147286CB510@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Would an 1828 marriage between an> English-descended man and an > Amerindian-descended woman> have been recorded in the usual> way and within the usual records> now still available?> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:52:31 -0600> From: "Teresa Elliott" <Cheasa@bellsouth.net>> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Marriage> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <004201c84c21$5b128030$11378090$@net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > If their license still exists, it would be in the loose records on roll 181> at the state archives. If the marriage was legal, the records would be> there. But it's possible they weren't legally married, or that the record> was lost. Not sure what was included in the loose records. > Teresa Ghee Elliott> --http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/> > -----Original Message-----> From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of John Ozment> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:42 PM> To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNWILSON] Marriage> > > Would an 1828 marriage between an> English-descended man and an > Amerindian-descended woman> have been recorded in the usual> way and within the usual records> now still available?> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:00:42 -0600> From: "Teresa Elliott" <Cheasa@bellsouth.net>> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] surnames researching> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <004d01c84c2a$e143e640$a3cbb2c0$@net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Frances,> Who are your Lannoms, Edwards.> > Teresa Ghee Elliott> --http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/> > -----Original Message-----> From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of mccoin> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:03 PM> To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNWILSON] surnames researching> > In Wilson Co., Alsup, Thorne, Edwards, Morgan, Blythe, Lannom, Patterson,> Sanders, Snyder, Elliott, and more.> In Rutherford/Williamson,> Tignor, Pettus, Batey, Jordan, Thomas, Mason, and more.> > Frances Thorne McCoin> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the TNWILSON list administrator, send an email to> TNWILSON-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the TNWILSON mailing list, send an email to TNWILSON@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of TNWILSON Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1> ************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008
Hello, I have some tarpley members on the Hawker side of the family and I also have Blythe Bly members in it Pat> From: tnwilson-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNWILSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 259> To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:02:07 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: tarpley/tapley family history (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 2. Re: tarpley/tapley family history (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:33:30 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] tarpley/tapley family history> To: <TNWILSON-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1197606811.286258@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: akinback2> Surnames: Tarpley, Akin> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2517.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > My GG Grandfather Clark S. Akin married Susie Tarpley in Collin County TX. I believe both were from Wilson Co TN. I believe Susie's parents were Harvey & Kate Tarpley. Susie was b.1883, Harvey b7Aug 1832,d.21 Aug.1912,Kate b.19 May 1839 d. 21Mar. 1930. > > >From her I inherited a Civil War pistol and am trying to track back. Do any of these connect?> > Thanks> Richard Clark Akin> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:46:06 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] tarpley/tapley family history> To: <TNWILSON-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1197607567.287852@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: akinback2> Surnames: Akin, Tarpley> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/2517.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > I should have read better. It appears my Harvey & Kate may be Henry & Katherine who moved to Collin County. Do you know if he or any brothers fought in the civil war?> > Richard Clark Akin> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the TNWILSON list administrator, send an email to> TNWILSON-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the TNWILSON mailing list, send an email to TNWILSON@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of TNWILSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 259> **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
Hello John, I have found written Cherokee genealogies on the web. I will send what I found to you tomorrow and you can check out the names. It is nothing less than facinating. Donna --- John Ozment <johnozment@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Query -- > > Is there a list of probable American > Indian surnames of early Wilson Co., TN? > > ----- > > My specific situation -- > > Denny and William Weatherly (with their young > families) > were living in the household of their father, Levi, > in > Wilson Co., TN, in 1830. > > Denny Weatherly had been born in Guilford Co., NC, > in 1807. > His wife, Angeline, had been born somewhere in North > Carolina > in 1808 (census) / 1804 (tombstone). > > An oral tradition ascribes American Indian ancestry > (Creek) to Angeline, but her surname is unknown. > Given her NC roots, I'm surmising her admixture > might be from among the Cherokee instead. > > Scrutinizing Levi Weatherly's 1830 neighbors on the > census, > I wonder if any of those neighbors' surnames > could currently be considered to have some Cherokee > blood? > > No circa-1828 marriage exists in the > archives in Nashville for my ggg-gp's who had been > living in Wilson County pre-1820 to post-1850. > My Caroline Weatherly was born to them on 12 Nov. > 1829. > > ----- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Query -- Is there a list of probable American Indian surnames of early Wilson Co., TN? ----- My specific situation -- Denny and William Weatherly (with their young families) were living in the household of their father, Levi, in Wilson Co., TN, in 1830. Denny Weatherly had been born in Guilford Co., NC, in 1807. His wife, Angeline, had been born somewhere in North Carolina in 1808 (census) / 1804 (tombstone). An oral tradition ascribes American Indian ancestry (Creek) to Angeline, but her surname is unknown. Given her NC roots, I'm surmising her admixture might be from among the Cherokee instead. Scrutinizing Levi Weatherly's 1830 neighbors on the census, I wonder if any of those neighbors' surnames could currently be considered to have some Cherokee blood? No circa-1828 marriage exists in the archives in Nashville for my ggg-gp's who had been living in Wilson County pre-1820 to post-1850. My Caroline Weatherly was born to them on 12 Nov. 1829. -----
I was reading you last post and thought I might do a little searching for your Landon Richardson. I may have found his parents and family. Also in the 1850 De Kalb Census. Here you go. His father would have been James A. Richardson. As you can see I figured since he was only 19 in the 1850 census that he might have not moved far from his family. He works out to be the perfect age for the oldest son, continuing the 2 or 3 year difference between the rest of the children. Let me know what you think. Hope this helps Gary Bell Name: James A Richardson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Birth Place: Virginia Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): District 9, Dekalb, Tennessee Household Members: Name Age Harriet Richardson 16 James A Richardson 40 Jane G Richardson 34 Mary L Richardson 5 Richard Richardson 10 Teollin Richardson 3 Thomas Richardson 8 Virginia Richardson 14 William Richardson 12 Zachary Richardson 0 ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <TNWILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Turners of Wilson Co. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: emcraw > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > This Martha Turner was born about 1833 in TN according to the 1860 census. I don't know if she passed away or what happened. I do know that Landon married Nancy Frances Jennings in Dec of 1865. He was released from the Union Prison, Camp Morton in Indiannapolis IN in Apr of 1865. > > I have never been able to find the parents of my gr grand father Landon Britt Richardson, so I thought if I could find more about his first wife I could get some clues. > > My big, big brick wall!. thanks so much for your reply. Ellen > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <TNWILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Turners of Wilson Co. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: emcraw > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > This Martha Turner was born about 1833 in TN according to the 1860 census. I don't know if she passed away or what happened. I do know that Landon married Nancy Frances Jennings in Dec of 1865. He was released from the Union Prison, Camp Morton in Indiannapolis IN in Apr of 1865. > > I have never been able to find the parents of my gr grand father Landon Britt Richardson, so I thought if I could find more about his first wife I could get some clues. > > My big, big brick wall!. thanks so much for your reply. Ellen > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Illinois info: http://www.illinoishistory.com/trailoftears.html http://www.illinoishistory.com/2004/12/trail-of-tears-chief-praised-letter-to.html http://www.egyptianaaa.org/SI-Trail-of-Tears.htm http://thesouthern.com/articles/2008/01/14/front_page/22927477.txt --- Donna Fischer <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Logan, > > Yes, the trail went thru southern Illinois. > > It appears on this map as the northern route. Note > where it says Illinois .... it appears this is the > same route that came from the Nashville area. It > seems > to say that this route started at Charleston, which > is > a circled number 11. This appears close to or near > or > in NC. > > Donna > > http://ngeorgia.com/history/trailoftearsmap2.html > > > --- JENKINSRAWHIDE@aol.com wrote: > > > Donna, I noticed you said the trail of tears was > > also in Illinois and this > > makes me wonder just how wide or how many trails > > there were as my hometown of > > Lebanon, Tennessee which is 28 miles east of > > Nashville has historical markers > > indicating that the Trail of Tears ran through > here. > > > > Logan Jenkins > > _Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com_ > > (mailto:Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com) > > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? > Check > > out AOL Travel Guides. > > > > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one > month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Forced removal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trail_of_tears_map_NPS.jpg http://www.trailoftears-remembrance.org/ http://www.nps.gov/trte/historyculture/index.htm http://dragonfire.freeservers.com/page4.htm The area in Illinois was a pretty big area. I'm trying to find the websites that are dedicated to the Illinois locations where the trail went thru. I think there is a statue. Donna ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Hi Logan, Yes, the trail went thru southern Illinois. It appears on this map as the northern route. Note where it says Illinois .... it appears this is the same route that came from the Nashville area. It seems to say that this route started at Charleston, which is a circled number 11. This appears close to or near or in NC. Donna http://ngeorgia.com/history/trailoftearsmap2.html --- JENKINSRAWHIDE@aol.com wrote: > Donna, I noticed you said the trail of tears was > also in Illinois and this > makes me wonder just how wide or how many trails > there were as my hometown of > Lebanon, Tennessee which is 28 miles east of > Nashville has historical markers > indicating that the Trail of Tears ran through here. > > Logan Jenkins > _Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com_ > (mailto:Jenkinsrawhide@aol.com) > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check > out AOL Travel Guides. > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brownsnest Surnames: TURNER, HEARN, CARTWRIGHT, MAJOR, HAMNER, ANDREWS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Turner, my 2nd great grandfather, was born to William Turner and Frances Dodson: look these dates up and then see if you can see a census with the children listed......I only have siblings names of THEIR family.....Thomas could have had a sister named Martha, since BD are close in years. William Turner b. 1768 Amherst VA md. 1791 in Granville NC and d. before 21 Jan 1812 in Wilson County. He IS buried in the Turner Cemetery. Wife: Frances Dodson, b. 1774 in Granville, NC d. 1857 in Woodbury, Wilson Co., TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Donna You have hit the nail squarely on the head. Many books that are written on the pre-tot Cherokeewere NOT researched from primary resource documents BUT from other books. The snowball effect occurred. John Doe wrote a book then Jane Doe researched her book from John's book then Sam Jones researched his book from theirs and the errors perpetuated on and on and on. If you ask any true Native American researcher who knows about the pre tot they will tell you to steer clear of many of these books. I've several of them gathering dust on my shelves. Did you know there are hundreds of rolls of microfilm with very early NA/Cherokee records on them. We, as routine, every day researchers don't have access to them. Major NARA and branch libraries have them and if you are lucky your local library will have a few of them but for the most part they are largely unavailable to us. We are somewhat limited in what we can do without access to these records. There is a good number of records in the counties on the earliest levels for the Cherokee. For instance, here in McMInn County we see several land transaction and court records for the mixed blood Cherokees. It is up to us a researchers to locate the myriad resources available for us. The American State Papers online are very telling. The actual document transcriptions at the Appalachian Summitt site are wonderful. The census rolls definately aren't the only means of researching NA heritage.....not at all. That is akin to saying there are no records for researching white heritage other than census's. It just ain't so. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Fischer" <donna_fischer2003@yahoo.com> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots > Hi, > > Well if the rolls are not even correct, then they > should not be depended upon to determine who is or who > is not a Cherokee. > > They should only be used for the welfare system to the > tribal persons who were living in OK at that time. > > Now the North Carolina Cherokee reservation, that more > recently received federal recognition may not be on > the rolls either, since they may not have been a > reservation at the time the rolls were taken. > > The way I see it is that the Rolls were a instrument > of the government, to limit access to government funds > to Indians, and allotment of land. Most of the tribes > had a requirement of being 1/4 Indian to become a part > of the tribe. The Cherokee had a 1/16th blood because > of the great influx of whites who had married/had > children with the Cherokee. > > But this instrument of identifying Indians to get > benefits by checking rolls is not the correct or most > exhaustive way to find out if you have Native > ancestry. There are people who were of Native/white > heritage in the 1700's, and their descendants may not > have married other Indians later in the years where > they became absorbed in the white race. So the Rolls > would have nothing to do with their genealogy search > for their heritage, since their tribal affiliation > would have ended by the late 1700's. So telling > someone like this to search the rolls is incorrect and > has nothing to do with their genealogy. > > And now we hear that the rolls can be incorrect and > some think that the historians who write history books > are incorrect. So it appears everyone can be > incorrect, and there is nothing to go on. So why have > we not seen a history book written by the Cherokee > tribe, NC or OK. focusing on the early history?? > Whatever I have seen that was written by one of the > Cherokee tribes speaks little about the days before > the Trail of Tears. (Very little on the Indians in the > 1700's and before.) It usually focuses on the days > leading up to the Trail of Tears, and the > reestablishment in OK and what happened along the way > and the people who hid out in NC. > > The Cherokee nations need to write more books and tell > the world their story. Genealogy is a hot topic today. > > Donna > > > > > --- "Joyce G. Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Many of the rolls were taken by white men who knew >> how to write in >> English....not Cherokee. If someone gave the census >> taker a Cherokee name >> and he didn't know how to spell it he would write >> down something >> else....something in English. Many Indians got >> English spelled names in >> that manner. >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Salisbury, Rita" <RHOSTER@seaford.k12.de.us> >> To: <tnwilson@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots >> >> >> > Kudos for reminding people that not all books and >> rolls are accurate or >> > complete. I have a collateral ancestor who was >> given early reservation >> > land in Alabama because she was a Native. Her full >> sister (my lineal >> > ancestor) would have been the same, but neither >> appears on a tribal >> > roll. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:tnwilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Sara Binkley Tarpley >> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:44 PM >> > To: tnwilson@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [TNWILSON] Cherokee roots >> > >> > Yes, and it is important not to discount family >> stories. Just label >> > them as family stories or family tradition until >> you can prove them. >> > As so many have stated, that may never happen with >> traditions of >> > Native American ancestry; but it would be a >> mistake to discard the >> > story. >> > >> > My roots are firmly in NC, VA, and TN. So, when I >> started >> > researching, I thought that the story that one of >> my >> > great-grandmothers was born in Buenos Aires, >> Argentina, had children >> > by her first husband in Mexico, came to New >> Orleans where she met my >> > great-grandfather, and then had my grandmother in >> Nashville was just a >> > little too exotic to be true. Every record >> confirmed it. I have also >> > found that family stories can carry a grain of >> truth even when they >> > are not entirely accurate; so, while I don't >> necessarily believe them, >> > I never discount them entirely. >> > >> > Sara Binkley Tarpley >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Joyce G. Reece >> <bjreece@bellsouth.net> >> > wrote: >> >> There are actually few very old families in the >> southeast who will not >> > have >> >> 'some' Native American Heritage and that is a >> fact BUT as to >> > researching >> >> YOUR Native American heritage, it could be a bit >> tricky. It isn't >> > like your >> >> usual, run-of-the-mill research. There are many >> N.A. reserchers who >> > don't >> >> comprehend the people who 'want-to-know' as >> opposed to 'want-to-be'. >> >> >> >> . >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >> > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >> > TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - >> Release Date: 4/3/2008 >> > 10:48 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to TNWILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emcraw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.wilson/121.216.285.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This Martha Turner was born about 1833 in TN according to the 1860 census. I don't know if she passed away or what happened. I do know that Landon married Nancy Frances Jennings in Dec of 1865. He was released from the Union Prison, Camp Morton in Indiannapolis IN in Apr of 1865. I have never been able to find the parents of my gr grand father Landon Britt Richardson, so I thought if I could find more about his first wife I could get some clues. My big, big brick wall!. thanks so much for your reply. Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.