When I was in White Co in 1984, they assured me that they had NO marriage certificates, only the ledger book. I had them copy the the page even though the entry was one line, and stamp it as a certified copy. That was the best they would do. No additional information of any kind than what is in the book. I have wondered if in later years, such as 1880's or later, that certificates might exist. Diana Williams

Good luck! Several years ago I requested several marriage records for Bumbaloughs from White County. The request was sent to the White County Clerk and then referred to a person in charge of old records. She sent me certificates that party X had married party Y on date Z and that in information appeared on the XX page of marriage book YY. It was little more than what I had learned from the marriage books about White County. I notice that the Genealogy Society there is getting the requests now. Maybe they will actually go to the courthouse, dig the information out and make copies for you. I would ask for that. White County government seems quite uncooperative when it comes to helping genealogy researchers. Bruce Bumbalough Watauga, TX Debra Summers wrote: > Hello, > I called the county clerk's office in Sparta TN this morning to get fees for > ordering the marriage certificate of my gggrandparents for 14 March 1859 > and was advised that as they did not have a genealogist on staff I had to > send my request for fees and anything else to the Genealogical Society c/o > City Hall in Sparta. The address I was given was E. Bockman Way, Sparta TN. > So anyone planning to order a certificate, I guess this is the way we have to go > about it. > Debra Summers > > ==== TNWHITE Mailing List ==== > For researching White County, Tennessee Genealogy, please visit Sandy Keathley's White County TNGenWeb Site at http://www/tngenweb.org/white/

In a message dated 9/13/1999 10:12:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, brucebumbalough@home.com writes: << White County government seems quite uncooperative when it comes to helping genealogy researchers. >> They also charge .50 per page for copies too, which we all know is ridiculous. I know this for sure, I was just there. Bobbie i n Ohio

Need marriage record of John C. Sherrill and Nancy Howell. Nancy was born about 1828 and was a daughter of John and Nancy (Brewer) Howell. Also need descendancy info. Seems they had a son named Roscoe Sherrill. Also need descendancy info on Nancy's brother, Lewis Howell. He was married three times: to Jerusha Duncan, Mary Spears, and Charlotte (Lafever) Nash, widow of William Nash. Do any of you have the dates for Lewis Howell's marriage to these women? thanks Will Smith

Hello, I called the county clerk's office in Sparta TN this morning to get fees for ordering the marriage certificate of my gggrandparents for 14 March 1859 and was advised that as they did not have a genealogist on staff I had to send my request for fees and anything else to the Genealogical Society c/o City Hall in Sparta. The address I was given was E. Bockman Way, Sparta TN. So anyone planning to order a certificate, I guess this is the way we have to go about it. Debra Summers

Is there anyone who can do lookups in census records for White County (1800's) and also in will books? Please contact me personally for specifics. I'd really appreciate the assistance! Thanks, Sammye Mantooth samrick@door.net

If anyone would like me to do a look up in the marriage book, just give me the names and I'll try to do it as soon as possible. You may contact me privately at LeeandBillMc@twlakes.net Hope this can help someone. Candace McKinley

Hi ya'all. I'm trying to find information in White County on the family of Thomas J. Durham, b. about 1820. Thanks, Gloria Durham Spurlock

Hi White Co Cousins, Wow. Hope all the info in Digest #123 is in the White Co History Book to be published shortly. Really look forward to it. Al Welch

It's interesting that my great-great grandfather was also named Marion Rice (1833-1902). Do you have any connections to Logan county, KY by chance? I find a James H. Rice there in the 1820's or 30's, and also found a James H. Rice in White County, TN minutes 1811 suing some Andersons there. Also, the name "Logan" Rice is repeated at least twice in my family. Will -----Original Message----- From: Marion Rice <mjrice@dakotacom.net> To: RICE-L@rootsweb.com <RICE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: Re: RICE FAMILY >Marcia, > >I've checked my tree and other trees that have been sent to me and find >none of the Rices in your messages. Found some John Rices but none that >can be connected to 1850 and KY. Found no Thomas Rices. It doesn't seem >to be a name used much by the Rice family I'm researching. > >As all who follow the RICE-L list are aware there were a lot of not (or >apparently not) connected Rices in the Ohio River area in the 1800's. > >Marion > >---------- >> From: Marcia Larson <mlarso36@cybertrails.com> >> To: mjrice@dakotacom.net >> Subject: RICE FAMILY >> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:14 AM >> >> Hi Marion, >> Would you know anything about a Thomas RICE b. 1822 ? or his son JOHN >> C. RICE b. 1850 KY >> John was married to my gr grandmother Lavina Arebelle MOWERY they lived >> in Edgewood, Effingham, IL... >> thier children: >> Susan Florence RICE HYDE..b. 1884 Edgewood >> Charles b.1881 >> William b. 1872 >> Alma b. 1898 m. John Chaplin >> >> Thanks, and good luck searching Rices >> Marcia >> mlarso36@cybertrails.com >> >

Does anyone know more about a Justice of the Peace named JACKSON? Though my ancestors are found in a list of marriages abstracted by Fred Sisser III Thomas T. Nicholas and Ariselar Moon m. 8 Oct 1845 in White co., TN. When I wrote for a copy of the marriage record I was told that one did not exsist. When Ariselar Moon Nicholas (Zilla) had to prove marriage to receive Thomas' Civil War pension their marriage record could not be found. The Civil War pension states "That she was married to Thomas T. Nicholas, Oct 8th 1845, by a Justice of the Peace named JACKSON, who resided near Sparta, in White County, Tennessee: that she is unable to get any information from the records of White County, Tenn. regarding said marriage: that she does not know where to find the Officer who performed the ceremony nor any of the witnesses who were present at said ceremoney..." Lisa Smalley

On Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:24 AM DIANA M WILLIAMS <DIANAINDALLAS@prodigy.net> wrote: > This marriage is not in the book. Only these: > John A. Brown mar Jane Henry (Hensey) > 20 Jul 1845 by Rev. Jesse E. Hickman Just as an example of how many cross-overs there were between White Co. & Warren Co., Diana shows Rev. Jesse E. HICKMAN performing the marriage ceremony in 1845 in WHITE County. AND, in "The WARREN County Story" by Eugene Wiseman, Rev. Jesse E. HICKMAN is listed as having organized the Main Street Presbyterian Church in 1839 as a part of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church (p.56) Earlier Karen <Ladykdee@aol.com> asked about HICKMANs and I had no marriage listings in WHITE Co. for any Grooms with this name. HOWEVER, the Rev. Jesse E. HICKMAN and Nathaniel HICKMAN are mentioned in the WARREN County book referenced above. > I am looking for Hickman marriages, but definitely Mary "Polly" Hickman to James Cooper. This should be abt. 1825-1828.< ALSO, there is a James COOPER listed in the same WARREN Co. book under the "1812 Collins River District Tax List" as well as a Samuel COOPER. Other COOPERs mentioned in this book: E. B. / Elizabeth / Cooper Family / Gov. / John / Joseph / William / Winfred A. COOPER Family members are mentioned as being buried at two (2) cemeteries in WARREN Co: Pine Bluff Cemetery at the Pine Bluff Methodist Church; and, Old Philadelphia Cemetery at Vervilla (one of the oldest in the county). Contact me privately <montco1@cwix.com> should you require details on any of the above-mentioned. JEANNIE MONTGOMERY St.Louis County, MO

On Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:51 AM Debra Summers <msgumms@earthlink.net> wrote: > According to the LDS on-line, John Brown & Margaret Odle(Odell) were married 14 March 1859 in White County. Would anyone know where I could get a copy of this record? < According to the White County website through TnGenWeb, this is available at the County Clerk's Office (Marriages from 1809 - Present) at: County Clerk 1 E. Bockman Way Sparta, TN 38583 (931) 836-3712 I would suggest you call them for their current Fee before sending your request. THOUGHT: For those of you who are having difficulty finding the marriage of your ancestor recorded in White County, try checking Warren County. Some of my ancestors originally settled in White County by 1806. But, in 1807 the area they settled became Warren County. Also, try the following counties: Cannon (1836 - from Coffee & Warren) Coffee (1836 - from Franklin & Warren) DeKalb (1837-38, from Cannon, Warren & White) Franklin (1807 - from Warren) Grundy (1844 - from Coffee & Warren) Van Buren (1840 - from Warren & White) Warren (1807 - from White) White (1806 - from Overton, Jackson & Smith) PLEASE NOTE, each of the above counties were formed from land that at one time was a part of WHITE County. I have listed the year each county was formed and ONLY the counties that had been a part of White County at the time they were established. For example: Cannon County was formed from Coffee, Warren and Wilson counties in 1836. BUT, Wilson County was NEVER a part of WHITE County at any time. Therefore, it was not included. LIKEWISE, any marriages PRIOR to 1806 in what became known as WHITE Co., look at Overton (1806), Jackson (1801) or Smith (1799) counties. Hope this gives some of you success in your search! JEANNIE MONTGOMERY St.Louis County, MO

Watson, John & Sarah Jane Taylor 5 Nov 1843 , John & Mary Baker 21 Aug 1850 There are 2 for David Watson and 1 Arthur. Diana

Cooper, Eli & Elinda Adcock 24 Dec 1846 , Nathan & Sally Montgomery 13 Oct 1846 , Samuel & Sarah Ann Patton 14 Dec 1847 , Welcome P. & Eliza Tucker 21 Oct 1841

This marriage is not in the book. Only these: John A. Brown mar Jane Henry (Hensey) 20 Jul 1845 by Rev. Jesse E. Hickman John Brown mar. Eleanor Barnes 28 Aug 1853 Priscilla Odle mar Barton Gibbs 27 Apr 1840 Sarah Odle mar Wm N Cozart 16 Feb 1842 Hope it helps -- Diana Williams

No male Hickman Judith Ann Hickman mar. Anthony Elder 19 Mar 1856 There are 5 Cooper women and 4 men. Do you want them all? Diana Williams

On Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:25 AM Karen <Ladykdee@aol.com> wrote: > I must have missed the beginning of this subject heading. Is someone doing look ups in an old marriage book? Regardless, does anyone have any Hickman's in their files for White County, TN? I am looking for Hickman marriages, but definitely Mary "Polly" Hickman to James Cooper. This should be abt. 1825-1828.< KAREN - I sent a transmission last night to TNWHITE-L giving a background on the book everyone has been asking for lookups from for the past two days: "Oldest Marriage Book, 1809-1859" by Doliante and Mitchell (c.1977), privately published. A copy is on file at the White County Public Library in Sparta, TN. My posting on this book, tells you what is included and what is not, and why, etc. Be sure to look this one up. It may explain WHY you can't locate marriages you KNOW took place in White Co., TN. Since the book is in alpha order by GROOMS, I do not have the page you need, which is COOPER. I DO have the page that would include HICKMAN (your Bride). However, there are not any HICKMAN Grooms listed on this page -- only HICKEY and HICKS. Hopefully, someone else on the List will have the page with COOPER on it. A list of the pages I do have was posted in the previous message. You should have received it around 12:30 AM (last night). If not, contact me privately at <montco1@cwix.com> JEANNIE MONTGOMERY St.Louis County, MO

Hello, According to the LDS on-line, John Brown & Margaret Odle(Odell) were married 14 March 1859 in White County.Would anyone know where I could get a copy of this record? Thank you Debra Summers

On Wednesday, September 08, 1999 6:41 AM Lisa Wlliams in TX <GWill17438@aol.com> wrote: > Can someone look to see if there is a marriage for a Joel HOLDER to Charlotta ?? in the earliest marriage book? < HOLDER, Joel & Charlotta HOWARD March 26, 1845 p. 19 > Also, could you look up a marriage of a John WATSON to Elizabeth ??< SOURCE: "Oldest Marriage Book, 1809-1859" By: Doliante and Mitchell Sorry, I do not have the WATSON page of this book. JEANNIE MONTGOMERY St.Louis County, MO