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    1. [TNWEAKLE] Trail of Tears
    2. pj
    3. I got to throw in my 2 cents here.......... Here on my farm there has always been found all kinds of Indian relicts ........It has been passed down through the years by my family that the Indians camped here........It is one area of my farm........the hill field and where the woods is nowdays down to where a creek use to run through my bottom field.........the creek course was changed and we fight that all the time............so I would say that YES it was either the Trail of Tears or an Indian Tribe lived here......... There has been alot of nice stuff found and I don't have one single piece of it..........makes me mad too............I have seen items from here, in fact one of my cousins asked me the other day if he could come hunting the next time the field was plowed.......I didn't give him an answer because I plan to do just that myself............time I had something.........hehehhe.........pj > Joe, > > I have been curious about this same subject for some time now. I don't > have > any answers for you, but here are my thoughts: > > It seems relevant, especially for those of us whose ancestors suddenly > appear in Western TN in the 1840 census, and pass down rumors of Indian > blood in a > very hush-hush way, like my Caleb MORRIS/Martha A. PASCHALL line in > Weakley. > The family story from Caleb's dau-in-law was that one of Caleb & > Martha's > grandson Aubra Carl "Carl" MORRIS's grandmothers was 1/4 Indian. Carl > MORRIS > was my grandpa on my mom's side. (The other possibility would be Sarah > Elizabeth "Lizzie" LARGENT who married Samuel Allison WATSON, but they > didn't > arrive in Weakley until ca.1867-8.) > > It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that some of our ancestors could have > quietly slipped off a riverboat at night, or wandered away from the trail > in > search of a better life than what the "Great White Father" promised in AR > or OK. > This also seems to fit with the story that Caleb was called by another > name > while they were hiding in a cave or some dark place (a childhood memory > of > Great-grandpa Morgan Daniel MORRIS). I always assumed this had to do > with > Caleb being a Confederate soldier, but if they did escape from the Trail > of > Tears those families surely would have had to invent new identities for > themselves. > > I just don't know if there are any resources out there that give the > numbers > that started on the trail and how many reached their destination. The > only > statistic I've ever seen cited is how many died on the way, but it seems > to > me it would have been to the guards' benefit to enlarge that number > rather > than admit how many got away in KY, IL, or TN, etc. > > Maybe that would make a good research project for a quiet Sunday > afternoon. > > Just my 2-cents' worth. > > Peg Schorfheide > Corpus Christi, TX > orig. Belleville, IL >

    07/08/2007 11:56:42
    1. Re: [TNWEAKLE] Trail of Tears
    2. Joe Stout
    3. The period was in 1838 and 1839. As I understand the history of what is called the Jackson Purchase it occurred in 1818 from the Chickasaw Indians and that they did not live here in West TN but this was their hunting grounds. Davy Crockett came here in 1820. In 1826 and 1828 he was elected to the HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives"United States House of Representatives. As a Congressman, Crockett supported the rights of squatters, who were barred from buying land in the West without already owning property. He also opposed President HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson"Andrew Jackson's HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act"Indian Removal Act, and his opposition to Jackson caused his defeat when he ran for re-election in 1830; however, he won when he ran again in 1832 and lost again because of Jackson in the election of 1835. Had he not opposed Jackson’s Indian Removal Act he would most likely have stayed in Tennessee and not been at the Alamo. Crockett is responsible for 4 of my great and great great grandparents being able to own land in Weakley Co. That occurred with the first book of recorded deeds for those squatters called the Occupant Entry Book. The Occupant Entry Book is online on MaryCarol’s Weakley Site here; HYPERLINK "http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnweakle/Occupant_Entry_Book.htm"http://www.rootsw eb.com/~tnweakle/Occupant_Entry_Book.htm I hope you find some relics pj. I’m wondering if there might be a way to tell if any of the relics found in Weakley Co. were Cherokee or Chickasaw. If they were to be found to be Cherokee that would indicate they were a part of “The Trail of Tears.” Joe Stout -----Original Message----- From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pj Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:57 PM To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Trail of Tears I got to throw in my 2 cents here.......... Here on my farm there has always been found all kinds of Indian relicts ........It has been passed down through the years by my family that the Indians camped here........It is one area of my farm........the hill field and where the woods is nowdays down to where a creek use to run through my bottom field.........the creek course was changed and we fight that all the time............so I would say that YES it was either the Trail of Tears or an Indian Tribe lived here......... There has been alot of nice stuff found and I don't have one single piece of it..........makes me mad too............I have seen items from here, in fact one of my cousins asked me the other day if he could come hunting the next time the field was plowed.......I didn't give him an answer because I plan to do just that myself............time I had something.........hehehhe.........pj > Joe, > > I have been curious about this same subject for some time now. I don't > have > any answers for you, but here are my thoughts: > > It seems relevant, especially for those of us whose ancestors suddenly > appear in Western TN in the 1840 census, and pass down rumors of Indian > blood in a > very hush-hush way, like my Caleb MORRIS/Martha A. PASCHALL line in > Weakley. > The family story from Caleb's dau-in-law was that one of Caleb & > Martha's > grandson Aubra Carl "Carl" MORRIS's grandmothers was 1/4 Indian. Carl > MORRIS > was my grandpa on my mom's side. (The other possibility would be Sarah > Elizabeth "Lizzie" LARGENT who married Samuel Allison WATSON, but they > didn't > arrive in Weakley until ca.1867-8.) > > It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that some of our ancestors could have > quietly slipped off a riverboat at night, or wandered away from the trail > in > search of a better life than what the "Great White Father" promised in AR > or OK. > This also seems to fit with the story that Caleb was called by another > name > while they were hiding in a cave or some dark place (a childhood memory > of > Great-grandpa Morgan Daniel MORRIS). I always assumed this had to do > with > Caleb being a Confederate soldier, but if they did escape from the Trail > of > Tears those families surely would have had to invent new identities for > themselves. > > I just don't know if there are any resources out there that give the > numbers > that started on the trail and how many reached their destination. The > only > statistic I've ever seen cited is how many died on the way, but it seems > to > me it would have been to the guards' benefit to enlarge that number > rather > than admit how many got away in KY, IL, or TN, etc. > > Maybe that would make a good research project for a quiet Sunday > afternoon. > > Just my 2-cents' worth. > > Peg Schorfheide > Corpus Christi, TX > orig. Belleville, IL > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 3:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 3:26 PM

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