David, Thanks for the response. I will try to clarify your Milners. The L. Milner in the 1850 Census is William Leonard Milner, son of William and Nancy Edmunds Milner. He married Elizabeth P. Ray in 1827 in Halifax County, VA. In 1847, they sold their land on Bannister River and moved to West Tennessee. Leonard, on the return trip from visiting his sister in Arkansas, died of Cholera and was buried on the banks of the Mississippi River. His young son, William Mark Milner, was with him and was returned to Weakley County by Masons. This story was related to Dan Freeman by his father, Roy B. Freeman, son of Frances Elizabeth Milner==a daughter of William Mark Milner. After Leonard's death, Elizabeth married William Jones in 1854 in Weakley Couty. William Leonard, son of William and Nancy Edmunds Milner and grandson of Mark and Sarah Tune Milner was also a first cousin to Beverly R. Milner. John Add Milner, who married Minnie Blake, was the son of William Mark and Mary Virginia Chandler Milner Hope I haven't confused you. Leonard Milner DeBary, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Duncan" <ndduncan@ecsis.net> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > Hello, > My great aunt, Minnie Blake, (1880 - 1969) married John A. (J.A.) "Add" > Milner (1877-1945)late in life, (1917) in Weakley Co. J.A. "Add" Milner > grew up in Dist. 14, Weakley Co., near the Blake homeplace. His parents > were William and Mary Virginia (Chandler) Milner. William Milner was born > in VA in 1837. > > One William Milner is found in the 1850 Weakley Co. Census, Dist 9, in > home > of parents L. Milner, age 49, born VA, and Elizabeth Milner, age 44, born > VA. All the children listed were born in VA: William, age 14; John, age > 11; George, age > 6, Samuel, age 21, and probably Samuel's wife, Sarah, age 15. > > However, another William Milner is listed in the same census, Dist 14 > (which > is next to Dist 3 - Gardner area), in home of parents B. J. Milner, 42, VA > (magistrate), wife Saluda, 37, TN; children Robert, 17, TN; Aurelius, 15, > TN; William, 37, TN; Sarah, age 6, TN; James, age 8, TN; Lucetta, age 4, > TN; > and Saluda, age 2, TN. > > Is the William Milner mentioned above...likely the one in the 1850 census, > Dist 14....connected in any way to your Beverly R. Milner? If so, any > information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > David Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dot & Len Milner > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:48 AM > To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > > Beverly R. Milner was born on December 20, 1820 in Halifax County, > Virginia. > A little over a year before his birth, his father, Richard, died on > November > 10, 1820 and he was raised by his mother, Martha (Jones). On December 26, > 1840, he took his bride-to-be, Mary Short Roby, then 15 years old, to > Pittsylvania County where his sister, Sarah, lived. There they were > married > by John Webb with William Compton, his brother-in-law, as bondsman and > George Carter Roby, Mary's father, as signer of the certificate. By this > time, mother Martha, had moved to Pittsylvania County to live with her > daughter, Sarah, and although not shown in the official record, probably > attended the marriage ceremony of her youngest son. Family tradition has > it > that Beverly and a friend had started west southwest toward Tennessee and, > along the way, Beverly decided that he could not leave his sweetheart, > Mary > Roby. So he returned to Virginia to ask for Mary's hand in marriage. > After > their marriage in ! > 1840, they returned to Halifax County and there their first child, Martha > J., was born in 1842. Beverly's father, Richard, had left to him a set of > shoemaker's tools (Will) and the 1850 Federal Census for Rutherford > County, > Tennessee shows him plying this trade in McCrackin's District > (Murfreesboro). The couple had four more children while in Rutherford > County: George William born 1/1/1844; Oliff Roby born 8/27/1847; Olivia > Emiline born in 1848; and Leonard D. born 8/5/1851. The latter is my > Great-grandfather. Later, they moved to the Gardner area of Weakley > County, > Tennessee and after that, to Pierce Station. During this interim, the > next > seven children were born: Sarah Elizabeth born December 1854; Beverly R., > Jr. born in 1856; Mary E. born in May 1858; an infant girl born in > February > 1860 (who died a month later); Emerson Etheridge born in february 1862; > Ulysses S. Grant born in January 1865; and Isaac W. born in February 1867. > The family attended and were active i! > n Chapel Hill (United Methodist?) Church Martha J. appears in the 186 > 0 census but is gone by the 1870 census with the presumption that she > married in the interim and has been untraceable since. There are complete > files on the rest of the children. Mary died on Tuesday, July 12, 1893 at > their country home in Pierce Station and Beverly died 3 years later on > June > 25, 1896. Both are buried in Chapel Hill cemetery. > > > Leonard Milner > > DeBary, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello and thank you! This has resulted in some interesting information. While William L. Milner was apparently a large farmer in his own right, the William Jones whom Elizabeth married also had a large farm. In the 1870 census, William (Jones) and Elizabeth were living alone (except for a Rebecca Jones) with property valued at 2500. Three houses down was William Mark Milner, also with $2500 in land and 4 servants. He had married in 1867. These joint lands backed up to the Blake farm. In 1910 Census, John Add Milner was still living at home with his parents, William Mark and Mary Virginia. By 1920 census, William Mark had died. John Add Milner and Minnie Blake had married and apparently moved into the home of Mary Virginia. According to my mother, the Milner farm was nationally recognized one year during that period of time by one of the farm magazines. Thanks again for the information, David Duncan -----Original Message----- From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dot & Len Milner Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:21 AM To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History David, Thanks for the response. I will try to clarify your Milners. The L. Milner in the 1850 Census is William Leonard Milner, son of William and Nancy Edmunds Milner. He married Elizabeth P. Ray in 1827 in Halifax County, VA. In 1847, they sold their land on Bannister River and moved to West Tennessee. Leonard, on the return trip from visiting his sister in Arkansas, died of Cholera and was buried on the banks of the Mississippi River. His young son, William Mark Milner, was with him and was returned to Weakley County by Masons. This story was related to Dan Freeman by his father, Roy B. Freeman, son of Frances Elizabeth Milner==a daughter of William Mark Milner. After Leonard's death, Elizabeth married William Jones in 1854 in Weakley Couty. William Leonard, son of William and Nancy Edmunds Milner and grandson of Mark and Sarah Tune Milner was also a first cousin to Beverly R. Milner. John Add Milner, who married Minnie Blake, was the son of William Mark and Mary Virginia Chandler Milner Hope I haven't confused you. Leonard Milner DeBary, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Duncan" <ndduncan@ecsis.net> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > Hello, > My great aunt, Minnie Blake, (1880 - 1969) married John A. (J.A.) "Add" > Milner (1877-1945)late in life, (1917) in Weakley Co. J.A. "Add" Milner > grew up in Dist. 14, Weakley Co., near the Blake homeplace. His parents > were William and Mary Virginia (Chandler) Milner. William Milner was born > in VA in 1837. > > One William Milner is found in the 1850 Weakley Co. Census, Dist 9, in > home > of parents L. Milner, age 49, born VA, and Elizabeth Milner, age 44, born > VA. All the children listed were born in VA: William, age 14; John, age > 11; George, age > 6, Samuel, age 21, and probably Samuel's wife, Sarah, age 15. > > However, another William Milner is listed in the same census, Dist 14 > (which > is next to Dist 3 - Gardner area), in home of parents B. J. Milner, 42, VA > (magistrate), wife Saluda, 37, TN; children Robert, 17, TN; Aurelius, 15, > TN; William, 37, TN; Sarah, age 6, TN; James, age 8, TN; Lucetta, age 4, > TN; > and Saluda, age 2, TN. > > Is the William Milner mentioned above...likely the one in the 1850 census, > Dist 14....connected in any way to your Beverly R. Milner? If so, any > information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > David Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dot & Len Milner > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:48 AM > To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > > Beverly R. Milner was born on December 20, 1820 in Halifax County, > Virginia. > A little over a year before his birth, his father, Richard, died on > November > 10, 1820 and he was raised by his mother, Martha (Jones). On December 26, > 1840, he took his bride-to-be, Mary Short Roby, then 15 years old, to > Pittsylvania County where his sister, Sarah, lived. There they were > married > by John Webb with William Compton, his brother-in-law, as bondsman and > George Carter Roby, Mary's father, as signer of the certificate. By this > time, mother Martha, had moved to Pittsylvania County to live with her > daughter, Sarah, and although not shown in the official record, probably > attended the marriage ceremony of her youngest son. Family tradition has > it > that Beverly and a friend had started west southwest toward Tennessee and, > along the way, Beverly decided that he could not leave his sweetheart, > Mary > Roby. So he returned to Virginia to ask for Mary's hand in marriage. > After > their marriage in ! > 1840, they returned to Halifax County and there their first child, Martha > J., was born in 1842. Beverly's father, Richard, had left to him a set of > shoemaker's tools (Will) and the 1850 Federal Census for Rutherford > County, > Tennessee shows him plying this trade in McCrackin's District > (Murfreesboro). The couple had four more children while in Rutherford > County: George William born 1/1/1844; Oliff Roby born 8/27/1847; Olivia > Emiline born in 1848; and Leonard D. born 8/5/1851. The latter is my > Great-grandfather. Later, they moved to the Gardner area of Weakley > County, > Tennessee and after that, to Pierce Station. During this interim, the > next > seven children were born: Sarah Elizabeth born December 1854; Beverly R., > Jr. born in 1856; Mary E. born in May 1858; an infant girl born in > February > 1860 (who died a month later); Emerson Etheridge born in february 1862; > Ulysses S. Grant born in January 1865; and Isaac W. born in February 1867. > The family attended and were active i! > n Chapel Hill (United Methodist?) Church Martha J. appears in the 186 > 0 census but is gone by the 1870 census with the presumption that she > married in the interim and has been untraceable since. There are complete > files on the rest of the children. Mary died on Tuesday, July 12, 1893 at > their country home in Pierce Station and Beverly died 3 years later on > June > 25, 1896. Both are buried in Chapel Hill cemetery. > > > Leonard Milner > > DeBary, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I may have missed something. Could you clarify the information about William Jones, please? What was the maiden name of Elizabeth whom you mention as having married William Jones? I've always thought it possible that the JONES household in the 1870 census you mentioned was that of my ggg grandfather, William JONES (first wife - Rebecca Unk. d. 1850), and that the Rebecca in the 1870 census was his granddaughter, Rebecca (b. c1850) daughter of his son, my gg grandfather, Andrew Jackson JONES. I have deed of gifts records that show "my" William JONES giving slaves to his grandchildren, and since he was a slaveowner, that's the main way I've been able to distinguish him from other William Joneses in the county in the same time period, BUT I don't have a proven death date for him. In the 1850 Weakley Co. TN Slave Schedule, he owned, at least, 13 slaves and was in Dist. 3. 1850 Weakley Co. TN Census, Dist. 3 Household 50 JONES, W. 60 (male) Farmer 1000 TN (actually born in VA) Son, Stephen F. JONES was living about 3 houses away, and daughter Sarah JONES SCOTT was a couple of houses from Stephen. Here is the 1850 census for E.F. JONES. 1850 Weakley Co. TN Census, Dist. 2 JONES, E.F. (female) 40 VA William 22 TN Eliza 23 VA Virginia 21 VA Lorenzo 19 VA Benjamin 16 VA Dawson 6 TN Ruth 3 TN In the 1860 Weakley Co. TN Slave Schedule, a William JONES was shown as owning 19 slaves in Dist. 14. His census is as follows: Dist. 14 Wm. JONES 70 Farmer TN Elizabeth 50 VA George MIL__ (couldn't read rest of name) 16 TN In 1860, there is also a female, E.F. JONES, 49, VA listed in Dist. 2 on the Weakley Co. census along with Eliza 35, VA; Virginia 33 TN; Adolfus 17 TN; Rutha 14 TN; Sarah FIELDS 6 TN; Jane 4 TN; and Georgian 3 TN The 1880 Obion Co. TN Mortality Schedule shows: E. F. JONES 70 (female) VA Housekeeper Old age In 1870, the census shows, as you mentioned, William JONES 81 TN; E.F. 61 VA; Rebecca TN Since my gg grandfather, Andrew Jackson JONES, son of William JONES, had a daughter named Rebecca, born c1850, making her 20 in 1870, I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that this 1870 census was that of the household of "my" William. I'd appreciate any information or input. I understand that you're not a JONES researcher, but I'm hoping that even the maiden name of the Elizabeth you mentioned might help me sort out this census. Thanks very much. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Duncan" <ndduncan@ecsis.net> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > Hello and thank you! > This has resulted in some interesting information. While William L. > Milner > was apparently a large farmer > in his own right, the William Jones whom Elizabeth married also had a > large > farm. In the 1870 census, > William (Jones) and Elizabeth were living alone (except for a Rebecca > Jones) > with property valued at 2500. > Three houses down was William Mark Milner, also with $2500 in land and 4 > servants. He had married in 1867. > These joint lands backed up to the Blake farm. > > In 1910 Census, John Add Milner was still living at home with his parents, > William Mark and Mary Virginia. > By 1920 census, William Mark had died. John Add Milner and Minnie Blake > had > married and apparently moved > into the home of Mary Virginia. According to my mother, the Milner farm > was > nationally recognized one > year during that period of time by one of the farm magazines. > > Thanks again for the information, > David Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dot & Len Milner > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:21 AM > To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > > David, > Thanks for the response. I will try to clarify your Milners. > The L. Milner in the 1850 Census is William Leonard Milner, son of > William and Nancy Edmunds Milner. He married Elizabeth P. Ray in 1827 in > Halifax County, VA. In 1847, they sold their land on Bannister River and > moved to West Tennessee. Leonard, on the return trip from visiting his > sister in Arkansas, died of Cholera and was buried on the banks of the > Mississippi River. His young son, William Mark Milner, was with him and > was > > returned to Weakley County by Masons. This story was related to Dan > Freeman > > by his father, Roy B. Freeman, son of Frances Elizabeth Milner==a daughter > of William Mark Milner. After Leonard's death, Elizabeth married William > Jones in 1854 in Weakley Couty. William Leonard, son of William and Nancy > Edmunds Milner and grandson of Mark and Sarah Tune Milner was also a first > cousin to Beverly R. Milner. John Add Milner, who married Minnie Blake, > was > > the son of William Mark and Mary Virginia Chandler Milner > Hope I haven't confused you. > > > > > Leonard Milner > > > > > DeBary, FL > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Duncan" <ndduncan@ecsis.net> > To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History > > >> Hello, >> My great aunt, Minnie Blake, (1880 - 1969) married John A. (J.A.) "Add" >> Milner (1877-1945)late in life, (1917) in Weakley Co. J.A. "Add" Milner >> grew up in Dist. 14, Weakley Co., near the Blake homeplace. His parents >> were William and Mary Virginia (Chandler) Milner. William Milner was >> born >> in VA in 1837. >> >> One William Milner is found in the 1850 Weakley Co. Census, Dist 9, in >> home >> of parents L. Milner, age 49, born VA, and Elizabeth Milner, age 44, born >> VA. All the children listed were born in VA: William, age 14; John, age >> 11; George, age >> 6, Samuel, age 21, and probably Samuel's wife, Sarah, age 15. >> >> However, another William Milner is listed in the same census, Dist 14 >> (which >> is next to Dist 3 - Gardner area), in home of parents B. J. Milner, 42, >> VA >> (magistrate), wife Saluda, 37, TN; children Robert, 17, TN; Aurelius, 15, >> TN; William, 37, TN; Sarah, age 6, TN; James, age 8, TN; Lucetta, age 4, >> TN; >> and Saluda, age 2, TN. >> >> Is the William Milner mentioned above...likely the one in the 1850 >> census, >> Dist 14....connected in any way to your Beverly R. Milner? If so, any >> information would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> David Duncan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Dot & Len Milner >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:48 AM >> To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Milner History >> >> Beverly R. Milner was born on December 20, 1820 in Halifax County, >> Virginia. >> A little over a year before his birth, his father, Richard, died on >> November >> 10, 1820 and he was raised by his mother, Martha (Jones). On December >> 26, >> 1840, he took his bride-to-be, Mary Short Roby, then 15 years old, to >> Pittsylvania County where his sister, Sarah, lived. There they were >> married >> by John Webb with William Compton, his brother-in-law, as bondsman and >> George Carter Roby, Mary's father, as signer of the certificate. By this >> time, mother Martha, had moved to Pittsylvania County to live with her >> daughter, Sarah, and although not shown in the official record, probably >> attended the marriage ceremony of her youngest son. Family tradition has >> it >> that Beverly and a friend had started west southwest toward Tennessee >> and, >> along the way, Beverly decided that he could not leave his sweetheart, >> Mary >> Roby. So he returned to Virginia to ask for Mary's hand in marriage. >> After >> their marriage in ! >> 1840, they returned to Halifax County and there their first child, Martha >> J., was born in 1842. Beverly's father, Richard, had left to him a set >> of >> shoemaker's tools (Will) and the 1850 Federal Census for Rutherford >> County, >> Tennessee shows him plying this trade in McCrackin's District >> (Murfreesboro). The couple had four more children while in Rutherford >> County: George William born 1/1/1844; Oliff Roby born 8/27/1847; Olivia >> Emiline born in 1848; and Leonard D. born 8/5/1851. The latter is my >> Great-grandfather. Later, they moved to the Gardner area of Weakley >> County, >> Tennessee and after that, to Pierce Station. During this interim, the >> next >> seven children were born: Sarah Elizabeth born December 1854; Beverly R., >> Jr. born in 1856; Mary E. born in May 1858; an infant girl born in >> February >> 1860 (who died a month later); Emerson Etheridge born in february 1862; >> Ulysses S. Grant born in January 1865; and Isaac W. born in February >> 1867. >> The family attended and were active i! >> n Chapel Hill (United Methodist?) Church Martha J. appears in the 186 >> 0 census but is gone by the 1870 census with the presumption that she >> married in the interim and has been untraceable since. There are >> complete >> files on the rest of the children. Mary died on Tuesday, July 12, 1893 >> at >> their country home in Pierce Station and Beverly died 3 years later on >> June >> 25, 1896. Both are buried in Chapel Hill cemetery. >> >> >> Leonard Milner >> >> DeBary, FL >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message