I have quite a large file on the Kennedys of Henry and Weakley co. I go back to Isaac Kennedy born in Roberson NC -- I will have to send it via attachment -- too much for an email. Let me know. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Russell & Carroll <[email protected]>wrote: > Re: KENNEDY line and Native American Indians mentioned in an e-mail > embedded at the end of Message 2 below: > > -- Bob Killebrew "Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis" "Often Tested, Always Faithful" United States Marines
Bobby send it and I will let it go through........just because the list needs to see it -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bobby Killebrew" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:55 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Indians & KENNEDYS > I have quite a large file on the Kennedys of Henry and Weakley co. I go > back > to Isaac Kennedy born in Roberson NC -- I will have to send it via > attachment -- too much for an email. Let me know. > >
Re: KENNEDY line and Native American Indians mentioned in an e-mail embedded at the end of Message 2 below: You've triggered my interest by the KENNEDY notation. My wife's paternal grandmother was JESSIE KENNEDY (b. 28 February 1899--died 28 March 1930 of pneumonia...buried in Peace Chapel Cemetery near Scott's Hill) and was part-Native American (visible in her photos). Jessie married FONZO EDGAR HENSLEY (b. 27 March 1896--d. 12 October 1969). JESSIE'S parents are JOHN JACKSON KENNEDY (b. in TN, 9 July 1847--d. 5 March 1937) and SARAH HENRIETTA "ETTA" O'GUIN KENNEDY (b. in TN, 30 October 1872--d. 27 March 1953) from the Scott's Hill area of Decatur County. They are buried in the Peace Chapel Methodist Church (the church is just a chapel now) Cemetery near Scott's Hill, Decatur County, TN. There are many KENNEDYS in that area today and one cemetery near the old Doe Creek school is almost all KENNEDY burials...I'm not sure if they're all related. Further tracing JESSIE'S Native American ancestry, her grandparents are WILLIAM H. O'GUIN (b. 7 June 1842--died 9 December 1883) and FRANCES SWIFT O'GUIN (b. 2 June 1845--died 18 September 1926...buried in the Scott's Hill United Methodist Church Cemetery). JESSIE'S great-grandparents are REV. ROMULUS SANDERS SWIFT (7/13/1818) and SARAH SALINA PAINE SWIFT (b. in NC, 24 July 1814--died 9 September 1906...buried in unmarked graves near Scott's Hill). They appear to be full-bloodied Cherokees in photos. REV. & MRS. SWIFT established the Scott's Hill Methodist congregation in 1840 when theirs ox cart broke down in Scott's Hill while making their way to Texas. The people were so good to them during their tenure at Scott's Hill, they aborted plans to continue on to Texas and remained to establish the church. Their photos and obituaries may be found in the JOURNALS of the Memphis Annual Conference (ROMULUS' in the 1889-1890 JOURNAL and SARAH'S in the 1906-1907 JOURNAL), located in the Methodist Archives of the Luther L. Gobbel Library, Lambuth University, Jackson, TN. Russell N. Gallimore, Jackson, TN Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:31:11 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My Williams family of Weakley also claims Cherokee lines. My grandfather, Lawrence Virgil Williams, was born in 1865 and claimed to be one-eighth Cherokee. His father, Lawrence P. Williams, came from N.C. through East Tenn. and was a skilled woodsmen as well as farmer. He died in 1905 and though the entire family accepts the Indian heritage as truth we do not know if it came from the Williams or Cashion line. I also have an uncle named Finis (Finis Buton Williams born in Weakley around 1911. It would figure that with NC so close and the Trail going through TN, there is more to this than some families want to admit. Bobbie W. In a message dated 8/11/2010 11:30:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: My family story included the Indian female but she wasn't an Indian Princess like most say. Our is based on a picture we have of my great great grandmother. On the back is written, "This is Mama and she was one-half Indian. Daddy's family disowned him for marrying her." I have no idea what her name was or definitely what my great great grandfather's name was. We think his name was Alford KENNEDY of Finis KENNEDY since my great grandfather named his two boys Alford and Finish and that would follow family tradition. It has been my great roadblock on that side of my family. My great great grandparents, which includes the part-Indian, died between 1870 and 1880 and my great grandfather, Cenus Hardy KENNEDY, was taken in by a Baptist traveling preacher named HALL according to what my grandmother told me but I haven't found proof of that too. Does anyone have anything in their family which would fit in with this? Leslie
This couple are on the 1850 Weakley Co. TN census. She is about 10 yrs. younger, and they have 2 children at home; John & Julia. I think he is J.H.A. "Alexis" FORINDER / FORIN I think she is Julia GIRRARD I think he may be the same Alexander FOREN b 1780 -1790 I found on the 1840 Weakley Co TN census, about 40 plus pages from my own Alexander FOREN b abt 1810 - 1820 . Does anyone know anything about J. FORINDER and Julia GIRRARD ?? By 1860...I can not find him, may have died & she is living in ILL. What happened to the 2 children John & Julia? Thanks Cheryl
My question: Is this the same man found in Weakley Co TN. William A. DAVIS b. abt 1839 married to Mary L. Jackson, that Mr. Saunders found the final estate settlement on ? If so....was the marriage record in Davidson Co an error, or did the name change to DAVIS after they moved out of Davidson Co. ? Anyone know anything about this family? Thanks, Cheryl
Charlie H. KING died 2 Nov. 1937 in Martin, Weakley Co., TN. age 54 yr. born about 1883. Thank You Martha... cheryl
Manerva J. FREW m: William J. FORTSON 28 March 1867 Weakley Co TN John C. FREW m: Eda T. RUCKER 11 Nov 1866 Weakley Co. TN Susan P. FREW m. Joseph TWEEDLE 3 June 1869 Weakley Co TN William P. FREW m: Amanda CLOUD 28 Sept 1871 Obion Co TN. Sarah Frew age 2 yrs. b abt. 1858 TN Buchanan FREW age zero b 1860 Sarah A. FREW age 36 yrs. born abt 1824 TN A. FREW age 48 yrs. born abt 1812 N.C. Lemuel FREW age 47 yrs. born abt 1813 TN ALL above listed on the 1860 census CD # 17 Weakley Co TN ANY INSIGHT INTO THIS FAMILY WOULD BE APPRECIATED...they shadow my FOREN's..... Thank You Cheryl
Thanks Marigold. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marigold castle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: [TNWEAKLE] DNA testing The Mit DNA test wouldn't help in your case because it does have to go solely through the female line. MitDNA only shows mothers to daughters back through the line. Same for YDNA which shows father to son. That's one reason DNA isn't quite as useful as it might be in genealogy - it only follows one line back. However, if you can find a male descendant of your great grandfather (through the male line - great grandfather, grandfather, father, son), you could test his YDNA and see if his haplogroup is more likely to be Native American given that the line goes from father to son from that point on. If you can find other members of the tribe in question to compare your DNA to that would be very helpful. Some Native Americans are in Y haplogroups that aren't clearly Native American so knowing how closely you match other members of the tribe would be significant. --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Leslie Moore <[email protected]> wrote: From: Leslie Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 5:49 PM Thanks for the information. I was interested in proving that I was descended from the Nansemond Indian tribe through my mother's line. Does the whole line have to go through the females though? For instance my line would go through my mother and grandmother but then goes to my great grandfather and from there back to the tribe it would be through males. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Jim. Now I know that the likelihood of having heart attacks comes through my CROUCH family. Hope I took after my MOORE line or the KENNEDY line and live into my late 80's or 90's instead of dying in my 60's like most of the CROUCH women did. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Griffin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] GARDNER or GARNER > Leslie this iw what I had. > > George Anderson Garner, b. 1 Feb 1903 in TN, census 30 Jan 1920 in Civil > District 7, Weakley Co. TN. He married (1) Gladys Onona Crouch, married > 10 Nov 1923, b. 1907, d. 26 Jun 1972 at Volunteer General Hospital, > Martin, Weakley Co. TN, buried in East Side Cemetery, Martin, Weakley Co. > TN, cause of death Heart Attack. He married (2) Alline Virginia Olds, > married 24 Nov 1972 in Weakley Co. TN, b. 6 Apr 1913 (daughter of Charley > L. Olds and Lera Hicks). > > I. Charles Garner. > > II. Billy Garner. > > > > Best, > > Jim Griffin > > > > "Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis, Frater Infinitas" > "Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever" > United States Marines > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leslie Moore > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:01 PM > Subject: [TNWEAKLE] GARDNER or GARNER > > > I am looking for descendants from Gladys Onona CROUCH who married George > Addison GARNER/GARDNER in 1923. They had two sons, Charles and Billy. > > Onona was my grandfather's baby sister and she lived either in Martin or > just across the Kentucky line. > > Does anyone have any knowledge of these people? > > thanks, > Leslie Moore > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello to all listers, I have never been to Weakley County but I sure have enjoyed the stories. I am old enough to remember some interesting stories from my ol' stompin' grounds. I will try to iterate the story of my one relative who lived a short time in Martin. Robert NETHERCOTT was born in Stepney, Ratcliff, Middlesex, England in 1864. He came with his family to Quebec then to New York and on to southern Illinois. Sometime in 1883 or 1884 Robert left his family and went to Martin. Robert followed in his fathers footsteps and became a miller. He found work at the Martin Roller Mill. Robert also found a young lady by the name of Gennie KENNEDY (Virginia Annette), and they were married 10 December 1884. The information I got from the family bible states that Robert was caught and pulled into the machinery and killed 17 March 1885. Now the nice part..........Gennie was "in the family way" at the time. Little girl Robbie NETHERCOTT was born in November 1885. Robbie was her given name and the only name I have found. Now Gennie went on to get married again. December 6, 1887 she married Mr. Armstead STAFFORD. Armstead was owner of the Martin Roller Mill. Gennie and Armstead had three children as follows. Genella STAFFORD b. Oct. 31, 1888 Martin d. March 5, 1988 Florence, AL m. Dutch Gleason BARGER b. May 23 1889 Gardner d. September 10 1962 Martin children James A. BARGER b. July 9, 1918 d. June 15, 1919 Frances Louise BARGER b. March 17, 1921 d. m. Gordon E. SMITH b. September 19, 1910 d. December 24, 1996 children Catherine Annette SMITH b. December 10, 1950 Elizabeth Rebecca STAFFORD b. July 31, 1891 Martin d. March 1985 Martin m. Phil HURT children Philip HURT b. June 24, 1917 d. March 8, 1997 Orlando, FL Eleanor HURT b. about 1920 Eliza Bell STAFFORD b. May 9, 1897 Martin d. December 15, 1974 Martin m. Jardine C PATTERSON b. 1891 children Jobe C. PATTERSON b. November 18, 1919 d. June 1984 Now back to Robbie NETHERCOTT b. November 1885 Martin d. June 2, 1971 Martin m. Joseph William EAKIN b. December 5, 1884 Iowa d. November 25, 1940 Martin children Virginia Elizabeth EAKIN b. January 13, 1913 d. November 1993 Martin Joseph Well EAKIN b. August 24, 1915 Martin d. March 12, 2004 Memphis, TN m. Jean SPELLINGS b. March 29, 1917 Martin d. April 4, 2000 Memphis children Marilyn EAKIN b. 1944 presently resides Memphis, TN m. Rex L. BRASHER John Stephen EAKIN b. 1948 That's as far as I can go. If any of you know anything more about any of my distant relatives I would certainly be glad to hear from you. ED CARDINAL [email protected] This for pj; You are still in control of the best, by far, list I have membership to. I don't have much to add to the list but I certainly enjoy reading all that the others add. Keep it goin', girl. You are wonderful!!
Leslie this iw what I had. George Anderson Garner, b. 1 Feb 1903 in TN, census 30 Jan 1920 in Civil District 7, Weakley Co. TN. He married (1) Gladys Onona Crouch, married 10 Nov 1923, b. 1907, d. 26 Jun 1972 at Volunteer General Hospital, Martin, Weakley Co. TN, buried in East Side Cemetery, Martin, Weakley Co. TN, cause of death Heart Attack. He married (2) Alline Virginia Olds, married 24 Nov 1972 in Weakley Co. TN, b. 6 Apr 1913 (daughter of Charley L. Olds and Lera Hicks). I. Charles Garner. II. Billy Garner. Best, Jim Griffin "Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis, Frater Infinitas" "Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever" United States Marines ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Moore To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: [TNWEAKLE] GARDNER or GARNER I am looking for descendants from Gladys Onona CROUCH who married George Addison GARNER/GARDNER in 1923. They had two sons, Charles and Billy. Onona was my grandfather's baby sister and she lived either in Martin or just across the Kentucky line. Does anyone have any knowledge of these people? thanks, Leslie Moore [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I started to School at Chestnut Glade in 1955. It was 8 grades with 4 teachers in 4 rooms.....Mrs. THOMASON was the 1st and 2nd grade teacher and what a wonderful teacher she was. The 3rd and 4th grades during this time was a Mrs. MILLER......a little woman but a good teacher. OH the next two teachers .......5th and 6th grade, Mr. B. O. (Beecher) FINCH, a no nonsense guy that scrubbed your head with his knuckles and used a ruler to the hands......I later had him in the 7th grade, his final year of teaching. The 7th and 8th grade gave us Ms. Mignone MORRISON, the principal and a character.......but the best of all was......... Mr. Harbert WATTS, lived in the school in one room........he would have the pot belly stoves red hot time we got to school. Our rooms were clean and ready for us.......I don't know to this day why Harbert and a school bus driver got into it one morning in Mrs. THOMASON's room........but it was a full blown fight!!!!!!! I was in either the 1st or 2nd grade and scarred to death cause us kids were right there in the room with desk, books, papers and you name it flying everywhere........best I remember Dent McMINN, Cecil BARBER and Johnny Lee SIMPSON, all bus drivers came in and broke up the fight.......I might have too many but they were all bus drivers at one time or another........ We had scrub bushes in front of the school. Jerry DOUGHTY would chase me out of school everyday......as we went by Harbert he would grin and say Ms. Mignone gonna get you.......sure enough if we even dared to touch those bushed she had us and what a speech we got.......every day!!!!!!! I don't know who Harbert WATTS was nor who his family was but everybody loved him.....well almost......hehehehe......... Does anyone on here know his family? The lunch room was in the basement......we would have to go outside to go eat lunch but it was worth it........the meals were really good......... Chestnut Glade was known for it's basketball teams, plays, field days, etc..........in 1955 my cousin Patsy and I won the parade contest.......my Mama had made our little dresses out of crepe paper and decorated my tribycycle with the same thing........I am calling it a triby because it had 3 wheels.........you can see a picture of it on the Weakley Web Site that I put on there when I was the hostess of the site.......that beautiful site belongs to all of us........... Chestnut Glade also had a baseball team. There was always a lot of activity at Chestnut Glade......I even won the prettiest baby contest at 6 months so my Mama told me.......I sure miss it to this day..........pj
The Mit DNA test wouldn't help in your case because it does have to go solely through the female line. MitDNA only shows mothers to daughters back through the line. Same for YDNA which shows father to son. That's one reason DNA isn't quite as useful as it might be in genealogy - it only follows one line back. However, if you can find a male descendant of your great grandfather (through the male line - great grandfather, grandfather, father, son), you could test his YDNA and see if his haplogroup is more likely to be Native American given that the line goes from father to son from that point on. If you can find other members of the tribe in question to compare your DNA to that would be very helpful. Some Native Americans are in Y haplogroups that aren't clearly Native American so knowing how closely you match other members of the tribe would be significant. --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Leslie Moore <[email protected]> wrote: From: Leslie Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 5:49 PM Thanks for the information. I was interested in proving that I was descended from the Nansemond Indian tribe through my mother's line. Does the whole line have to go through the females though? For instance my line would go through my mother and grandmother but then goes to my great grandfather and from there back to the tribe it would be through males.
I am looking for descendants from Gladys Onona CROUCH who married George Addison GARNER/GARDNER in 1923. They had two sons, Charles and Billy. Onona was my grandfather's baby sister and she lived either in Martin or just across the Kentucky line. Does anyone have any knowledge of these people? thanks, Leslie Moore [email protected]
Peter B. Mosley was one of the earliest settlers of the Meridian, Jonesboro area and a large landowner. There is an old Mosley graveyard about a mile and a half west of Meridian Church. One of his descendants and namesake, Peter (Pete)B. Mosley was the Greenfield Night Marshall in the 1930's and 1940's. It was his job to patrol the business district after all of them had closed up for the night and also to assist the Town Marshall, John Holder, during the day if he needed any help. The County Jail was in Dresden but Greenfield had a "Calaboose" which was located on South Second Street just around the corner of "Soup Street." One of the sayings of Marshall Holder was, "I'll put you in thar", meaning you would be locked up in the "Calaboose." Most of the duties of the Town Marshall's in those days was to handle altercations between people and to lock up those that had tipped the bottle a little too much. Occasional break‑ins happened in the business district but burglary of homes was almost unheard of. It was 1960 before I knew what a locked door was. One Saturday "Pete" was attempting to lock up Cecil White and it became a physical "wrestling match." As he was wrestling him to the ground Cecil started biting on Pete's ear and almost chewed it off. Pete carried a badly mangled ear to his grave. In the late 30's or early 40's Pete had a 1932 Chevrolet. This was a big old box type car. Pete called his car "Old Liz." Don Grooms and some other kids decided to play a prank on Pete and they took some fresh "cow manure" and put in the drivers seat. Not realizing it was there Pete sat down in it and when he realized what had happened he remarked, "somebody put "cow MANURE" in Old Liz or the "REAR END" on that cow must have been pretty high."(These are not the actual words he used but you can use your imagination.) There was also a colorful African American man around Greenfield in those days known as Pewter. His real name was Newman Viney (Viny, Vinny, Vinney). There was probably not 10 people that ever knew his real name. Pewter was also probably part Indian. He was a small man and always wore a red bandana around his neck held together with a small cow-horn tip. He also most always wore cowboy boots. Pewter’s common usage of speech was always prefaced with “yes sir Mr.”, or “no sir Mr.” At the intersection of highway 45 and Broad St. which is also highway 54 in Greenfield there is a crossing of the Illinois Central Rail Road tracks. One day Pete was turning on this road and Pewter was riding on the running board of Pete’s car, OLD LIZ. As they approached the rail road tracks Pete asked “is there anything coming Pewter?” Pewter replied “no sir, ain’t nothing comin but a freight train, Mr. Moseley.” Well, Pete proceeded on across the tracks and the freight train caught the rear end of “Old Liz” and spun them around. Neither Pete nor Pewter were hurt but they sure were shook up. Even to this day if you are riding in a car crossing the railroad tracks in Greenfield and the driver asks “is anything coming”, you may get the reply, “ nothing but a freight train Mr. Moseley.” Just a little more of the way it used to be in Greenfield.
Hello Bud, Thank you for your story about Gleason Tennessee. The Mr. RICHEE in your story was Alton Monroe RICHEE, my great uncle. Your story reminded me of our family visits to Gleason when I was a boy. My great uncles and aunts lived in Gleason. At the time, they seemed so old to me. The sobering thing is I'm the great uncle generation now. May I have your permission to include your story about Alton RICHEE in my genealogy website? Thanks G. Robert "Bob" Farmer, Sr. [email protected] On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > From: [email protected] > Date: August 15, 2010 9:08:57 AM CDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNWEAKLE] SUNDAY ROCKIN' A STORY ABOUT GLEASON TN. LONG AGO FROM BUD RAY > Reply-To: [email protected] > > First of all let me say that I am thankful to PJ to be given the opportunity to share with you all a few things that I remember about The Weakley County I knew during my young life. > Stuck way back in the corner of my brain is a picture which comes to life as I sit and search my memory. > I have a picture in my memory of the frontage along the railroad tracks in Gleason during the 1940's, 1950's, and even a part of the 1960's. > Mr. Richee's store was the one on the corner across from the Hotel and "Kitty cornered" from the Depot, which was on the West side of the tracks. There was a line of stores all the way down to the next intersection across from where the bank use to be. Across the tracks to the west was (and still is) Gleason High school. > In the front of Mr Richee's store was a bench ,as I Remember and maybe some chairs also. The elders of Gleason use to sit there and chat with each other and with passers by. > I would be in town with my "Pappy" Henry Brummitt, and, at times my Father John Ray. > I would walk down the side walk and speak to these gentlemen as I passed. Among these aged Gleason Icons was a black man by the name of Eurastus White, or as everyone knew him as "Rastus" White. I would speak to him and he would always have a pleasant smile and a few kind words for me. I do not remember the others who sat with him, but my Grandfather and my Dad knew all of them. > Mr. White lived to be well over 100 years of age, and when the Ray family would come back on summer vacations from Michigan, I would wander down that "Memory Lane", and there was Mr. White, still sitting there. He had lost his eyesight, but every summer when I spoke to him he would answer with "Ain't that John Ray's boy"? The Dresden would surely have a record of mr White's passing. > In the cold of winter this group would be seated inside the back of the same store around a large "Pot Belly" Stove. > The years have come and gone and the Elders of Gleason have all passed away, but my memory still takes me back. I am going to Paris for a reunion the latter part of September. I WILL visit Gleason and as I pass this spot, I will pause and remember, and without a doubt I will hear the words again " Ain't that John Ray's boy"? > If any one of you should remember anything about this "Hallowed spot", I would be so pleased to hear from you, either on this List or at my email address [email protected] I have a website also bud ray family .net > We are only here for a season folks. Some of these Gleason Icons were the relatives of some of you, for sure. I am sure that PJ would also be interested in the feed back...Bud Ray ...Michigan
Ok, Bob, very good stories..........come on folks let's hear more stories.......write them today.......include them in your genealogy of a person.......write as many as you want to and send them to the list........I love reading these stories and in these stories, connections can be made......... I wait to read more............pj
Here is another story from my website. I never knew my natural grandfather who died in 1925 in Weakley County. Phillip Dozier was the only paternal grandfather I knew. He was a fine man who we knew as “Pa Dozier”. Grandmother was a widow for the second time when she met Phillip Dozier while a member of the Central Baptist Church in Martin, Tennessee. They married on 20 Dec 1942 and were good companions for the next 24 years. He always had a smile and a kind word. He seemed to understand the aging process by maintaining common sense activity. For instance, when he cut the yard, he would only cut until he felt fatigued and then would quit and rest. He smoked a pipe and Grandmother always made him smoke on the porch. He was active until he passed away at age 93. Pa Dozier always had a big garden on Moody Street in Martin. This always provided fresh vegetables in the summer. Grandmother would can the rest to hold them through the winter. I always remember having crowder peas when we visited. A typical meal consisted of crowder peas, mustard greens, corn, ham or fried chicken, and corn bread. The Meek family was the Dozier’s neighbor (two houses removed) on Moody Street in Martin, Tennessee. Anne Meek shared this story about Pa Dozier’s garden and the Moody Street neighborhood: "The Doziers were great neighbors. The entire neighborhood--Moody and Lee--was a wonderful place to grow up. Have you seen my brother's book ‘The Tarzan Club’? The Dozier house is mentioned in the book, because the famous "tree of jumps" was in their backyard. It was a huge ash tree on the bank of the ditch, outside the fence and behind the little barn, if my memory is correct. Maybe the boys could even get on the roof of the barn from the tree--could they? It was this tree that served as a test jumping station. As for me, I was too chicken and/or too little to start at the top of the tree and jump from limb to limb all the way down to the ground, as the boys did. I wanted to do everything the boys did but couldn't get up my nerve for that much jumping through the tree. Have I told you the story my family loved about Mr. Dozier planting by the moon and my dad planting by his education in agriculture at the university? During one season or another, Mr. Dozier won the competition, and my mother just loved to gently tease my dad about that! My dad and Mr. Dozier were both avid gardeners, growing everything possible in the backyard gardens... and what great "organic" produce we ate. 'Course, it took a lot of work on the part of everyone... and those lessons remain with me today, as I hate to see food go to waste. Food means work, you don't just throw it in the trash!” G. Robert "Bob" Farmer, Sr. [email protected]
I think I have provided these stories before but maybe it is appropriate that they be reiterated as part of the subject matter. These stories are also on my website at http://web.me.com/bobfarmer/Site/Bob_Farmers_Home_Page.html My grandfather, Oscar Lee Farmer, died unexpectedly in 1925. As a result, my grandmother, Beulah Maggee Richee (Farmer, Smith, Dozier) lost the farm to the bank. She married George Wester Smith in 1926. Mr. Smith owned the property at 235 Moody Street, Martin, Tennessee. Upon his death in 1936, his will provided that grandmother could live in the house throughout her natural life. She married Phillip H. Dozier in 1941. We called Mr. Dozier "Pa Dozier". She continued to live on Moody Street until after Pa Dozier's death in 1966. She died in 1969. Grandmother had a mischievous grin that discounted her stern demeanor. One of my humorous recollections was in about 1964, Joyce and I told grandmother we would visit her on a given date. At the appointed time of our arrival she had stepped out to go to the grocery store. Anticipating our arrival, she wrote a note and left it on the door. It advised us that the house key was under the doormat and we should enter and make ourselves at home. That was typical of a more innocent time. She was a good cook, although, in her later years she tended to overcook everything. I've come to understand that this is somewhat typical of senior citizens. She seemed to cook constantly. In the early days I remember her cast iron wood stove. I remember the first time she showed me the water reserve on its side. I thought that was very curious, but later reasoned that it was a practical source of hot water and kept the air in the house moist. When I was there, it was my job to keep the water reservoirs filled. I estimate that she replaced the old wood stove with a gas stove in about 1948. I remember the crowder peas, black-eyed peas, okra, mustard greens, corn on the cob, mashed potatoes and gravy, and fried chicken. There was corn bread for supper and biscuits for breakfast. She prepared pies, cakes and biscuits on her porcelain clad oak sideboard. I remember the aroma from her biscuits would wake us in the morning. They were smooth and flaky and would melt in your mouth. My brother and I were disappointed in her later years when she converted to Ballard biscuits. We were shocked the first time she did this but had to accept it as a sign of the times. At other times she would make breakfast toast in the oven. I always thought that was unique but special. Grandmother had a big black cast iron kettle in the back yard. I'm told that before my time she did the family wash in that kettle, and would also make lye soap. Grandmother's house on Moody Street was behind the University of Tennessee Martin (UTM). She lived a humble life and took in UTM student borders for a little income. Pa Dozier worked at the University as a maintenance man until he retired.. The house was later bought by the University and torn down to make a parking lot. The parking lot is still there. I vaguely remember that they kept a cow in the shed on the lower back yard. She would sell the milk and butter for a little extra income. One time, she demonstrated her butter churn to us and we were fascinated. We would stay in the rental rooms vacated by the college students in the summer when they were off. It was a white wooden frame house. A big covered porch spanned the front and had the typical suspended swing that squeaked. I remember the bathroom had a dim light bulb hanging from the ceiling. The wattage was not marked but I would guess it to be about 25 watts. It gave off an orange glow. It always fascinated me because it was always there from the time I could remember, roughly 1942. In fact, it was there and working when Dad helped close the house sometime in 1967 or 68. Dad gave me that bulb which I proudly keep displayed on our kitchen cabinet. Occasionally I plug it in to verify that it still works. It does! This is the only tangible thing of Grandmother's that I have. I'll never understand why Dad did not keep some other memento to remember her by. There were always sweet peas growing somewhere in the yard. They provided a special scent. She also liked petunias and gardenias. I recall, when I was a young boy, Aunt Lela who everyone called "Sister", telling a story about a Richee family adventure that became known as the "Hollow Log Story." As typical of a young boy, I did not pay enough attention to the story to retain the details. I asked my brother if he could recall the story and sure enough he couldn't recall the details either. Fortunately, Opal Dellinger interceded for me and resurrected the story with the help of her brother, Vernon Richee. They reinstated the story as follows: "The family, at that time consisting of Pa Richee, Ma Richee, Alton, Lela, Mattie, Ina and Beulah who was a baby, was returning from a short visit to Pa's half-brother, Henry Richee. Henry lived near Bradford in West Tennessee (some 25 miles away from home). All the Richee children had always referred to him as Uncle Henry. They had gone on a Saturday, planning to return home on Sunday by the way of Uncle Joe Richee's and have a visit with that family. A very bad cloud, with torrential rain falling during the night, delayed their return home on Sunday. All roads were dirt and were very muddy after a rain. It was late in the afternoon when they got to Spring Creek, a body of water they had to cross to get home. The mules became frightened at the sight of the water. Pa, thinking this was just a 'slue,' tried to get them to go on, but the team reared-up, breaking loose from the wagon. This left the family stranded for the night -- too far to go back and could not go forward. Apparently, this big hollow log was their only refuge, so they went for it. Pa crawled into the log first, then urged the family to come on in. Pa arose at daybreak next morning, finding the water had receded and the mules were waiting. So Ma, 'baby' Beulah and the other four children crawled out. Pa hitched-up the mules to the wagon and the family headed for home. They went by the way of Uncle Joe's for a brief hello and good-by, but were most thankful to get home safely". G. Robert "Bob" Farmer, Sr. [email protected]
Family Finder with Y-DNA and mtDNA test you can, so they say, discover connections to descendants of all sixteen of your great-great-grandparents...5 generations. "Surname projects can use Family Finder to better define branches in a family tree. By using Family Finder testing, close Y-chromosome and mtDNA matches without traditional records may be assigned to a pedigree with greater confidence. Even more exciting, surname projects may now bring female cousins into the project as additional evidence." These are the close matches for me Gerald McClain Tim Garland Gardner 3rd Cousin, Shirley Burgess Vanderbeck 3 cousin, Gordon Leslie Stevenson 4th cousin and Eugene D. Melvin 4th cousin. I still have not found the paper trail or connections to these "cousins". PJ since we know our relationship perhaps you may know some of these "cousins" according to Family Finder from FTDNA. Gerald McClain Stillwater, OK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: TNWEAKLE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 155 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. (Leslie Moore) 2. SUBJECT LINE (pj) 3. Avon French (Mary Louise Gossum) 4. Sunday Rocking' (pj) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:49:34 -0500 From: "Leslie Moore" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks for the information. I was interested in proving that I was descended from the Nansemond Indian tribe through my mother's line. Does the whole line have to go through the females though? For instance my line would go through my mother and grandmother but then goes to my great grandfather and from there back to the tribe it would be through males. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marigold castle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. Hi Leslie, Mitochondrial DNA - it passes from mother to daughter down through the line, men have it too from their mothers but they don't pass it on apparently. The problem with MitDNA is it doesn't mutate like YDNA (the male side) so it's less useful in genealogy. Literally millions of women will match your MitDNA. It's good for confirming relationships (this is how they positively identified the body of Louis XVII) and/or for confirming things like alleged Native American or African descent (because certain forms of MitDNA are more common in certain racial/ethnic groups) but it's not very useful in general genealogy, not like YDNA anyway. Family Tree DNA can run the MitDNA test if you are interested, but the geneological use is limited. Our Mit test told us we probably don't have Native American bloodlines - on the female line that is. Any male relative wouldn't show. But other than that, the MitDNA hasn't accomplished much. Our YDNA test, on the other hand, took down a brick wall and connected us to several branches of our family back to the 17th C. --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Leslie Moore <[email protected]> wrote: From: Leslie Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 9:44 AM What is MitDNA? It relates to the female line? Where can I have the female DNA done? I am very interested in tracing some parts of my female lines!!!! Thanks, Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "marigold castle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. That's interesting, because my grandma always claimed my Williams girls (Mahala and Martha Williams) were part Cherokee. We've had our MitDNA done and it showed European heritage but, of course, that only applies to the female line, if there were any males with Native American DNA, it wouldn't show in the MitDNA in the female line. My McAbee great grandfather (son of one of the two Williams sisters) spoke an Indian language fluently and told my uncles stories about living near/with Indians, but I think that was from living in Massac Co. Illinois in his youth. --- On Wed, 8/11/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Speaking of Indians in Weakley Co. To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:31 AM My Williams family of Weakley also claims Cherokee lines. My grandfather, Lawrence Virgil Williams, was born in 1865 and claimed to be one-eighth Cherokee. His father, Lawrence P. Williams, came from N.C. through East Tenn. and was a skilled woodsmen as well as farmer. He died in 1905 and though the entire family accepts the Indian heritage as truth we do not know if it came from the Williams or Cashion line. I also have an uncle named Finis (Finis Buton Williams born in Weakley around 1911. It would figure that with NC so close and the Trail going through TN, there is more to this than some families want to admit. Bobbie W. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:52:36 -0500 From: "pj" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNWEAKLE] SUBJECT LINE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks PLEASE change subject line to fit your email........ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:10:41 -0500 From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Avon French To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just curious. The name Avon French sounds familiar. Maybe lived on the Fulton-Mayfield Highway? Did he have a sister Olena French who was a Health nurse? Seems to me when I was in grade school there was a nurse who wore a blue uniform and I think that was her name.I also seem to remember there was a connection to the Paul DeMyer (mayor of Fulton) family. Another couple of names came to mind with a French connection..I think...Alma and Donna Marie. Mary Louise Outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:02:04 -0500 From: "pj" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Sunday Rocking' To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" well it is midnight so it is officially Sunday..........Let the Rockin' Begin Just a request or two.......PLEASE do your subject line to fit the email Use CAPS for surnames Start a new email to TnWeakle every time...... thanks........who are we looking for..........pj ------------------------------ To contact the TNWEAKLE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the TNWEAKLE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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