<<Has anyone else had problems with mistranscriptions in the census indices?>> I have, tons... I've had to go through 100's of pages one family at a time, district by district, to find family members I KNEW were there! way too often to find the surname transcribed TOTALLY wrong and not even close to what the surnames actually were. Sometimes totally different names all together NOTE: Make sure when you find a transcription error, especially ones as bad as this, that you submit the correct name to ancestry.com, to spare the next person totally lost from what the rest of us are going through. I've also made connections with other family members who see my ancestry ID on the correction when ancestry updates the listings to searchable that I may have never made any other way! As an aside ;-), my husband is such a stickler about spellings he used to joke he'd proof the local weekly newspaper for free. Too bad they didn't hire him to do a lot of these transcription! ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Gartside" <brugart@mts.net> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Census transcriptions >A member of my NEWHOUSE family, John NEWHOUSE, was indexed as John N. > HENDERSON in the 1880 Weakley Co. TN Census, Dist. 14, in the > ancestry.com > index and also in census on www.familysearch.org . I finally came > across > them, accidentally, when browsing the district looking for someone else. > To me, the name was, definitely NEWHOUSE, and, of course, I was already > familiar with his wife and children's names and ages, which matched, but > transcribers who didn't know the family, evidently, read the surname > differently. I'm pretty sure that some of the people I've been unable to > find in census in certain years are probably there but with a totally > different name -- one that even Soundex wouldn't be able to find. The > transcription of NEWHOUSE to HENDERSON is probably the biggest mistake > I've > come across in any transcription. > Brenda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Saunders" <saunders@utm.edu> > To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:34 AM > Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Census transcriptions > > >>I had a man in from Michigan doing research on the IVIE family from >> Gardiner. He had been frustrated because they could not be located in >> Ancestry. After checking the film we discovered the name had been >> mistranscribed as EVIE. >> >> That got me thinking--transcription is a subjective art, but generally >> pretty accurate. Has anyone else had problems with mistranscriptions in >> the census indices? I wonder how wide-spread the issue is. >> >> ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** >> Richard Saunders, Curator >> Special Collections/Univ. Archives 731-881-7094 >> Univ. of Tennessee at Martin fax 731-881-7074 >> Martin, Tenn. 38238 saunders@utm.edu >> >> ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ahhh, if PJ Thompson or Garry Brown hasn't already corresponded with you, I'll bet they will. There is DORRITY, DOUGHERTY, etc. in PJs McCLAIN line (which is my McLAIN line that came to Lawrence Co AR before 1850) ... I can't with with much authority on your line, but PJ and Garry might be able to do so. Were yours ever in White or Warren Co TN? I found a ton of land records in Warren Co for George DORRITY, dating from early 1800s. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Blaha" <kayblaha@integra.net> To: <TNWEAKLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Census indices > Yes!! It might not be the transcription so much as the initial rendering > in > the census. Here are examples of how the Doherty name was spelled: > > > > Dorherty > > Dority > > Dorrity > > Daugherty > > Dougherty > > Doherity > > Dogherty > > > > > > > > I am researching the Richard Doherty and Prudence (Bethana) Mitchell > family. > > > > If Rebecca Doherty who wrote the history of Richard Doherty for the > Weakley > County History is on this list, I sure would like to correspond with her. > > > > Kay > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, yes, I've found the family name BEDARD listed as BEDOUR; CARROLL, as CHURCH; CAMBIO(A) listed as COMBE; GERVASIO, as GENNANO. I've found the given name Basil as Basse; and let's not talk about what census takers did with the name Barthelimie. These are names from my husband's family and not from Weakley County, TN, but I can clearly see the results of English speaking census takers on French and Italian names. The CARROLL/ CHURCH was transcription error entirely. The name was hard to read and there was a Church about 2 names up the page. The way I found out the correct name by going to the Birth/Baptismal online database from Prince Edward Island where the two oldest children were born and trying to look them up. I could read both parents first names clearly. I found no "Churches", so I started the the C* and got too many results. Then looking at the original document on Ancestry, I tried CA*, and immediately found both children and the family last name. I had suspected that the mother was a 2 great aunt of my husband. I confirmed it later with some more digging into more recent censuses. And yes, I did use the correction notes area on the right hand side. The correction was posted within the hour. So the long and short of it is that one should always ask what other ways of spelling a name there might be. The Weakley County person I am looking for is John MOORE (ca.1830). Cam Ellis Mt. Pleasant, MI Richard Saunders wrote: >I had a man in from Michigan doing research on the IVIE family from >Gardiner. He had been frustrated because they could not be located in >Ancestry. After checking the film we discovered the name had been >mistranscribed as EVIE. > >That got me thinking--transcription is a subjective art, but generally >pretty accurate. Has anyone else had problems with mistranscriptions in >the census indices? I wonder how wide-spread the issue is. > >***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > Richard Saunders, Curator >Special Collections/Univ. Archives 731-881-7094 >Univ. of Tennessee at Martin fax 731-881-7074 >Martin, Tenn. 38238 saunders@utm.edu > >***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

My surnames are MEEK, MEEKS, HENLEY, WILSON, ATKISON, ATKISSON, ATKINSON, CAMPBELL (from Rhea County, TN). Anne ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Hi Dorthy: My brick wall is my ggg grandmother: Hannah H. Davis, b 1800, Maury Co, TN, d. 1881, Weakley Co, TN. She married William G. Caudle 1816, in Maury Co. TN. They had 9 children. Do you have this line of Davis in your data base? Shirley (Caudle) Miller shirl_miller@charter.net At 12:27 PM 8/8/2007, you wrote: >The surnames I am researching are: Long, Clontz, Honeycutt, Williams, >Parrott/Perritt, Norkett/Norcott, Beckham, Ballard, Connell, Davis. > >Dorothy White > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 >4:06 PM

Hi Cris, My mother was Nita Williamson Caudle and I have a James Dorman Griffith (1883-1960) m. Flossie Williamson (1902-1985) daughter of Newton Henry Williamson and Olive May Caudle Williamson. They had two sons: Henry Clark Griffith and James Griffith. Do you have this in your ancestor line of Griffiths? Shirley (Caudle) Miller shirl_miller.charter.net At 03:38 PM 8/7/2007, you wrote: >Current email: > >pbean@arq.net > >-Surnames: >ADKINS, GATEWOOD, GRIFFITH, JOHNS, JONES, WORKMAN >also ALDERDICE, BURNETT, GARGUS, MORRIS, PARRISH, TAYLOR > >Cris Gatewood-Bean > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 >4:06 PM

The surnames I am researching are: Long, Clontz, Honeycutt, Williams, Parrott/Perritt, Norkett/Norcott, Beckham, Ballard, Connell, Davis. Dorothy White

These are the surnames that I am researching. Baker, Davis, Doster, Gibson, Honeycutt, Johnson, Mosley, Shelton Harold Davis Dresden Tn sandhdavis@crunet.com

Jillions of times, lol. "Wrong" spellings, or phonetically spelled names are as common as weather I think. Census taker no doubt wrote what he heard. I submit corrections on Ancestry.com sometimes ....there is a box on the right side of screen to do it, just click and give alternate name. You can even add a comment that other people can read. The corrected / alternate spelling will become available on searches. In searching census records or any other kind of record, be VERY flexible in what you think about your family's surname throughout time. Use Wildcard searches for instance, or Soundex. For HOUSE, try Hou** or How** or Hau** , for McLAIN / McCLAIN / McLEAN try all kinds of Wildcard searches, as well as spellings like MacLean or Macklin, Maclin, Mclin. I've found my line with all those spellings. And AGEE ..wow, weird things I've found like AGA, AGU, EGE, EGEE, AGE .....and can't find my great great great grandparents William AGEE b circa 1814 TN and wife Lenah / Leannah (Harvey) AGEE anywhere in the world on the 1850 census, no matter how I scan images or search. I'm willing to bet you will find most of your surnames spelled more than 2 ways ...probably 4 or 5 ways at least, and some of the spellings (or transcriptions) won't make a lot of sense. Makes online searches a real challenge ...but also searches in physical records also a challenge. Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Saunders" <saunders@utm.edu> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Census transcriptions >I had a man in from Michigan doing research on the IVIE family from > Gardiner. He had been frustrated because they could not be located in > Ancestry. After checking the film we discovered the name had been > mistranscribed as EVIE. > > That got me thinking--transcription is a subjective art, but generally > pretty accurate. Has anyone else had problems with mistranscriptions in > the census indices? I wonder how wide-spread the issue is. > > ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > Richard Saunders, Curator > Special Collections/Univ. Archives 731-881-7094 > Univ. of Tennessee at Martin fax 731-881-7074 > Martin, Tenn. 38238 saunders@utm.edu > > ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes!! It might not be the transcription so much as the initial rendering in the census. Here are examples of how the Doherty name was spelled: Dorherty Dority Dorrity Daugherty Dougherty Doherity Dogherty I am researching the Richard Doherty and Prudence (Bethana) Mitchell family. If Rebecca Doherty who wrote the history of Richard Doherty for the Weakley County History is on this list, I sure would like to correspond with her. Kay

In 1860, Silas M. KEMP is listed in District 9 with his wife, spelled Lodriska, and four sons: Gilbert, 12; William, 5; James, 3; and Josiah, 1. Also a boarder, John Parker, age 24. Gilbert was the son of Silas Kemp and Mary PATTERSON. Josiah was the son of Silas and Loduska. Can someone tell me who was the mother or mothers of William and James? Silas M. Kemp’s second wife was Nancy Ann BAKER. I have Nancy’s date of death as 1851. Is this correct or did she die as late as 1855? Silas and Loduska were married in 1857 and their wills indicate both William and James were Silas’ sons by a previous wife. William Kemp was William Francis Kemp who moved to Texas with Silas and Loduska and died in Johnson County, TX in 1915. James Kemp was James Monroe Kemp who married Catherine Frances Patterson, daughter of Mark Patterson, Jr., and Martha, before 1880. Where was James M. Kemp in 1870? From 1880 until their deaths, James and Catherine were listed in Weakley County.

A member of my NEWHOUSE family, John NEWHOUSE, was indexed as John N. HENDERSON in the 1880 Weakley Co. TN Census, Dist. 14, in the ancestry.com index and also in census on www.familysearch.org . I finally came across them, accidentally, when browsing the district looking for someone else. To me, the name was, definitely NEWHOUSE, and, of course, I was already familiar with his wife and children's names and ages, which matched, but transcribers who didn't know the family, evidently, read the surname differently. I'm pretty sure that some of the people I've been unable to find in census in certain years are probably there but with a totally different name -- one that even Soundex wouldn't be able to find. The transcription of NEWHOUSE to HENDERSON is probably the biggest mistake I've come across in any transcription. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Saunders" <saunders@utm.edu> To: <tnweakle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: [TNWEAKLE] Census transcriptions >I had a man in from Michigan doing research on the IVIE family from > Gardiner. He had been frustrated because they could not be located in > Ancestry. After checking the film we discovered the name had been > mistranscribed as EVIE. > > That got me thinking--transcription is a subjective art, but generally > pretty accurate. Has anyone else had problems with mistranscriptions in > the census indices? I wonder how wide-spread the issue is. > > ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > Richard Saunders, Curator > Special Collections/Univ. Archives 731-881-7094 > Univ. of Tennessee at Martin fax 731-881-7074 > Martin, Tenn. 38238 saunders@utm.edu > > ***** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ***** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching ARNOLD, BRIDGES, 2 BUTLERS, CAUDLE , DAVIS, NIX, GREEN, ATTEBERRY , GARRET, TURNER, AND

Current email: pbean@arq.net Surnames: ADKINS, GATEWOOD, GRIFFITH, JOHNS, JONES, WORKMAN also ALDERDICE, BURNETT, GARGUS, MORRIS, PARRISH, TAYLOR Cris Gatewood-Bean

I forgot to tell you that there are Caudles buried in the Hall family cemetery in Weakley County, Tn. Grace David Scarbrough wrote: > My current email address and surname list. > > dave@scarbrough.net > > SCARBROUGH, SHARP, MCCLURE, MANSFIELD, JOHNSON, PETREE, HALL, CAUDLE, POPE, > JOLLY/JOLLEY, CREWS > > -DS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Jim Rodgers jrodgers@logantele.com SURNAMES; Rodgers/Rogers, Dudley, Welch, Skipper, Carlton, Davis

Hi Grace, I believe we have spoken before. I think I am researching a different Hall line than you are. Mine main HALL lines are 1) James H. Hall b. 14 Mar 1817 in NC, 2) William W. Hall b. 24 Jan 1821 in TN, I believe that both are sons of Edward Hall & Anna Allen. -DS -----Original Message----- From: tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnweakle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Grace Upshaw Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:58 PM To: tnweakle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNWEAKLE] Your SURNAMES - please help me Hi Dave: I, too, am a Hall descendant. Which one is your ancestor? Grace David Scarbrough wrote: > My current email address and surname list. > > dave@scarbrough.net > > SCARBROUGH, SHARP, MCCLURE, MANSFIELD, JOHNSON, PETREE, HALL, CAUDLE, POPE, > JOLLY/JOLLEY, CREWS > > -DS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWEAKLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/940 - Release Date: 8/6/2007 4:53 PM

Any info on CLELL EVANS would be appreciated. My info on him is: He had a brother named "BOB" . His father was GEORGE EVANS who lived "around" Dover. George had a brother--RICHARD JACKSON EVANS --(b. 1864 NC-d. 1916 Graves Co. KY) He is our line. Thanks, N. Osbron

I received this obituary from Mary Anne of James R. Smyth of Lansing, Mich. It lists Hugh Smyth as his father. I have a Hugh D. Smyth in my files b. abt. 1906 the son of Captain/Coplin and Margaret Elizabeth Unknown Smyth. Does anyone know if this is his line. Joe Stout James R. Smyth Chippewa Lake, MI Formerly of Holt Age 79, passed away on July 31, 2007. He was born on December 18, 1927 in Weakly County, TN, the son of Hugh and Christine Smyth. Mr. Smyth was employed at General Motors for 30 years, retiring in 1978. He graduated from Michigan School for the Deaf in Flint, where he was an outstanding athlete. He loved hunting and dancing, and overcame many challenges associated with his deafness. He was a member of the Lansing Moose Lodge. He was preceded in death by his parents, Hugh and Christine Smyth, and by his son, James. Surviving are: 2 brothers, Robert (Dee) Smyth of Haslett and Hugh (Linda) Smyth of Port Charlotte, FL; sister, Malinda Haindel of Charlotte, MI; many nieces and nephews, as well as L.B. and Joan Pentecost, his primary friends and caregivers in his retirement years. A memorial service will be held for his family and close friends, at 2:00 p.m. Tuesday, August 7, 2007, at the Estes-Leadley Holt Delhi Chapel. The family will receive friends at the funeral home from 1:00 p.m. until service time on Tuesday. Published in the Lansing State Journal - August 5, 2007 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM