I appreciate this but for some reason it is confusing...... guess I am just a dummy..... joyce ----- Original Message ---- From: Donita Barkley <djbarkley1949@yahoo.com> To: tnwayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:35:45 PM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Kinfolk? I was having a conversation recently with a guy I met online - turns out we were 'sort of' related through various marriages - so he and I decided we were 'cuzzins.' We laughingly shared this information with another 'cuzzin' - only she didn't have the sense of humor that we had about it. Where I come from, it doesn't matter how extended or peripheral the relationship to the family you might be - if you're connected, you're a cousin! But - my other cousin being a more serious genealogist than me - sent me this chart in order to set me straight on how relationships are calculated  - >From CompuServe's Genealogy Forum On the top row, find the relationship of one person to the common ancestor and follow the column straight down. Find the other persons relationship to the common ancestor on the left hand column and follow that row straight across. The relationship is where the projected row and column meet. CA Common Ancestor S Sibling (brother or sister) C Child N Niece/Nephew GC Grand Child GN Grand Niece/Nephew GGC Great Grand Child GGN Great Grand Niece/Nephew #C # Cousin (1C - 1st cousin, 2C - 2nd cousin, etc.) #R # of times removed (1R - once removed, 2R - twice removed,  etc.) (Based on the system used by courts and most genealogical societies.) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 0 CA C GC GGC 2 GGC 3 GGC 4 GGC 5 GGC 6 GGC 7 GGC 8 GGC 1 C S N GN GGN 2 GGN 3 GGN 4 GGN 5 GGN 6 GGN 7 GGN 2 GC N 1C 1C 1R 1C 2R 1C 3R 1C 4R 1C 5R 1C 6R 1C 7R 1C 8R 3 GGC GN 1C 1R 2C  2C 1R 2C 2R 2C 3R 2C 4R 2C 5R 2C 6R 2C 7R 4 2 GGC GGN 1C 2R 2C 1R 3C  3C 1R 3C 2R 3C 3R 3C 4R 3C 5R 3C 6R 5 3 GGC 2 GGN 1C 3R 2C 2R 3C 1R 4C  4C 1R 4C 2R 4C 3R 4C 4R 4C 5R 6 4 GGC 3 GGN 1C 4R 2C 3R 3C 2R 4C 1R 5C  5C 1R 5C 2R 5C 3R 5C 4R 7 5 GGC 4 GGN 1C 5R 2C 4R 3C 3R 4C 2R 5C 1R 6C  6C 1R 6C 2R 6C 3R 8 6 GGC 5 GGN 1C 6R 2C 5R 3C 4R 4C 3R 5C 2R 6C 1R 7C  7C 1R 7C 2R 9 7 GGC 6 GGN 1C 7R 2C 6R 3C 5R 4C 4R 5C 3R 6C 2R 7C 1R 8C  8C 1R 10 8 GGC 7 GGN 1C 8R 2C 7R 3C 6R 4C 5R 5C 4R 6C 3R 7C 2R 8C 1R 9C  Donita ----- Original Message ---- From: Joyce Luna <lunaallenjoyce@yahoo.com> To: Wayne co TN <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:52:49 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Kinfolk? Question: My mother(Ethel) has a first cousin(trilby)  They share a grandmother. (so they are first cousins.) Now Joyce is Trilby's first cousin once removed? They each have a daughter(Pat and Joyce) who share the ggrandmother. Does this make Pat and Joyce second cousins? joyce       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message