I thought you started with the grandparents? joyce ----- Original Message ---- From: David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> To: tnwayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:12:49 PM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Kinfolk? Joyce, I was confused by some of the answers.  I think the "once removed" is the fly in the ointment.  If Joyce and Pat are children of first cousins, Ethel and Trilby respectively, then Ethel is 2nd cousin to Pat and Trilby is 2nd cousin to Joyce.  Then Joyce and Pat are third cousins. Then Joyce and Pat would be 4th cousins to each other's children. Each generation adds another number. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Luna" <lunaallenjoyce@yahoo.com> To: "Wayne co TN" <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Kinfolk? Question: My mother(Ethel) has a first cousin(trilby) They share a grandmother. (so they are first cousins.) Now Joyce is Trilby's first cousin once removed? They each have a daughter(Pat and Joyce) who share the ggrandmother. Does this make Pat and Joyce second cousins? joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:04 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message