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    1. [TNWAYNE] Re: WBTS HISTORY, BIO'S for WAYNE CO. FOLKS
    2. Edgar D. Byler, III
    3. Lynda, You're thinking about tahe old Genconnect Boards that were hosted on Rootsweb. I don't know what happened to them or the information posted but sometime between the beginning of 2000 and last fall (2001) they simply disappeared. May have something to do with the buyout of Rootsweb by Ancestry.com. I was the administrator for those boards for Wayne County, but don't remember getting any kind of notification that they were being deleted, moved or whatever. However, the USGenWeb archives (don't know which version since I gave up on genweb politics years ago) has Tennessee pension records (and I assume other states as well) at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/civilwar/tnindex.htm This is the USGenweb pension project. Now I'm gonna get on my soapbox for a little while. I've always disapproved of the proliferation of different archives, boards and things relating to counties, states, and subjects. It seems to me that it would be better for items relating to Wayne County, Tennessee to be posted on the Wayne County page - a one-stop shopping sort of thing. But I guess not all the county/state web pages are maintained on a regular basis. (it sometimes takes me a little while to get something posted to the page - hey, I do have to work for a living!) But if you don't monitor ALL the county boards, as well as teh various archives projects by State sites as well as the USGenWeb and its various resurrections, and lets not forget all the boards at GenForum, Ancestry.com and who knows how many other sites, you can easily get lost, confused and just down right tired. I thought the genweb project was a really great idea when it first started. However, all the back biting and negative politics on the national, state and sometimes local levels have made it difficult to keep track of everything. So I just quit. If you or anyone else wishes to submit biographies for the Wayne County page, goodness gracious and bless yor heart, I'll gladly post them. We do have pension records abstracts posted to the web page at http://www.netease.net/wayne/civilwarabstracts.htm We probably got 100 abstracts posted for Union soldiers. And probably 20 for Confederates. People just aren't sending them in. And I'm afraid I can't afford to buy pension files on people who aren't direct family. It wasn't too bad to order files when they were only $5.00 per file. And it wasn't too bad when it went up to $10.00. But it's now $37.00 for the whole file. Now multiply that by 900+ in the 2nd TMI alone and you can see why I stopped ordering pension application files. The idea behind the abstracts verses biographies was one of prime records verses secondary records. I had hoped that people would appreciate the abstracts and then later perhaps submit a biography. That hasn't happened, so i guess I'll set up a page when people can submit biographies. Anyone out there want to write the script for automatic submission of these biopgraphies???????(I really like the automatic query submission thingy!!!) If you do, it should be set up so that people could submit biographies on specific wars, e.s. Rev. War, War of 1812, Mexican War, Civil War, Indian Wars, Span-Am War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Exercise, or anything in between or before. If you volunteer to code the page and write the script, please give enough room for people to submit a fairly good sized biography. And don't forget about pictures. (And please no bmp's!!!! those darned things clog up my inbox and take forever to download on a dialup connection.) Let me know folks. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: WBTS HISTORY, BIO'S for WAYNE CO. FOLKS > At one time, on our Rootsweb Wayne Co., TN page, we had a place for War Between > the States Soldier Biographies and many were there. I found it very > interesting to check back often to see any new ones listed. This is a good way > of having some of the period of history brought to life on our WAYNE CO. PAGE. > but the last time I looked for it, they were not there. Can someone tell me > what happened to them or where to look for them now if they are still on there > somewhere? Thanks, Lynda Green > > Quoting "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]>: > > > David, > > > > I agree it would be nice to have detailed, documented histories of any > > of > > the units (USA or CSA) from this area. I'm surprised that no one has > > done > > anything with this other that William Morris who was and is working on > > the > > 2nd TN Mtd Inf. USA. > > > > Brent A. Cos did do a biography of Col. Jacob Barnett Biffle and I > > thought > > he also did a history of Biffle's Cavalry, but I can't find the > > information > > in my notes. > > > > It would be nice if we could get Cpt. T. J. Cypert's manuscript > > published > > since it deals with the 2nd TN Mtd Inf. I don't know whether he wrote it > > in > > 1868 during his first term in the Tennessee Senate or in the second term > > in > > the 1890's. I've seen it, but don't have a copy and the family guards > > them. > > > > There is so much history that hasn't been touched concerning the Civil > > War > > and the decades prior to it, in both Wayne and Hardin Counties. At > > least > > you all in Hardin County have Brazelton's history. The only thing we've > > got > > for Wayne is Meredith's manuscript in 1880 and the resulting section > > in > > Goodspeeds. > > > > It might be possible to determine a truer picture of some of the "tales" > > in > > Buggar Saga. Maurice's papers are supposedly in the UNA Library in > > Florence. > > I've not seen them, but understand that he did give them to UNA. That > > might > > help if you could decipher his codes and his "chicken scratching" -- the > > man > > definitely couldn't write a readable script. > > > > It would also require an indepth search of the Circuit Court Minutes in > > both > > Wayne County, Hardin County and Lawrence County in Tennessee as well as > > the > > Circuit Court minutes in Lauderdale. None of them are easy to work with. > > I > > don't remember if any of the minute books for Hardin County are missing, > > but > > there are one or two missing in Lawrence County. We have the books > > covering > > the period here in Wayne County, but none of the loose records survived > > the > > 1972 fire. Lauderdale County, Alabama is a mystery since I've not > > worked on > > their Circuit Court records. I understand that all the loose Circuit > > Court > > records are now stored in a warehouse in Florence and are not really > > accessible to the public. I've tried to get information through the mail > > and > > it was a futile exercise. I was trying to find out more about the > > "Caty > > Hills" and Grandma Catherine's activities during the period between 1854 > > and > > 1869 when she lived there and operated her "business". If would > > certainly be > > interesting to find an indictment against her for her "activities". > > > > If one could take a specific tale and then search the court records to > > see > > if anyone was ever charged, then a clearer picture might emerge. > > Maurice > > supposedly searched the Circuit Court records, but if he did, the > > information didn't make it into most of Buggar Saga. > > > > Some of the tales, especially those involving the 2nd TMI (the > > "Clifton > > Shebang") would require a thorough reading of all the pension > > applications > > submitted by members of the regiment. I only have about 100 of those > > applications out of over 900 which were filed. And I don't have many of > > the > > CSA pension applications. > > > > Anyway, I decline the nomination. I have the interest but not the energy > > to > > pursue this avenue of research. > > > > Edgar > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > > To: "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]>; > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Re: TNWAYNE-D Digest V02 #58 > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > Just for good measure, lets throw in The 6th Tennessee US, 19th > > (Biffle's)CS > > > and the First Confederate. You might find a few people that fought in > > two > > > or three of these 4 units? > > > > > > Can many of those Pruitt tales be unraveled to get at the truth, such > > as > > the > > > Brewer tale below? Would be interesting? > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Edgar D. Byler, III <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:44 AM > > > Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Re: TNWAYNE-D Digest V02 #58 > > > > > > > > > > As has already been posted to the list, "Buggar Sage" is available > > from > > > > Anderson's Bookland in Florence, AL and I think the > > Books-A-Million > > store > > > > there also has copies. It is my understanding that Anderson's > > bought > > the > > > > stock of the last printing of the book from Polly Warren's daughter. > > I > > > > don't know if they bought the rights to the book, but think that > > likely. > > > > > > > > Please use great caution when reading anything in "Buggar Saga". > > While > > > some > > > > of the tales are true, the exact details are often colored by the > > > > intervening years and by Maurice's own mindset. Some of the tales > > are > > > > completely false and without primary source documentation to > > substantiate > > > a > > > > tale, should not be taken as fact. > > > > > > > > 'Nuf said. > > > > > > > > Now I wish someone would do a factual, documented book on the > > "Clifton > > > > Shebang" - the 2nd Tennessee Mounted Infantry. > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 2:36 PM > > > > Subject: [TNWAYNE] Re: TNWAYNE-D Digest V02 #58 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dortha, I have never read the book "Bugger Saga". If I ever find > > it I > > > will > > > > > read it. However, a friend who is a Civil War buff says some of > > his > > > > stories > > > > > are untrue. The paragraph above this one states that the Brewers > > went > > to > > > > > Melton's house. Melton heard them in the bushes and opened fire > > wounding > > > > one > > > > > of the Brewers. The Brewers left but returned and killed Melton > > > instantly. > > > > > Later Elidge Melton's Uncle william Melton shot and killed Lewis > > Melton. > > > > This > > > > > was supposed to have started because Elidge Melton was a Union > > > > sympathizer. > > > > > However, the problem arises because Elidge Melton did not die > > until > > > > 1872.So > > > > > the story may be incorrect. I am trying to find the book but... > > > > > Elidge Melton had a sister, Adeline, that married William G. > > Trimmer > > who > > > > is > > > > > my gggrandfather. that is about all I know about the situation. > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > > > > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > > > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > > > > > >

    08/09/2002 08:22:14
    1. [TNWAYNE] WBTS HISTORY, BIO'S for WAYNE CO. FOLKS
    2. Thank you Ed for your explanation of what happened to the War Between the States Soldier biographies. I agree with you about there needing to be only one place for Wayne Co. information. I never think to check the Genweb stuff because it just makes more sense to me to go to one place for Wayne Co. data and that's our Wayne County, TN page hosted by you & Jerry. Thank you for all the work you do and I'll be sending you my Confederate soldier bio's as time permits. I hope there will be many others do this also and pretty soon, we'll have a nice story of real folks that were there during the WBTS era. We appreciate your kindness and expertise! Lynda Green, TX Quoting "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]>: > Lynda, > > You're thinking about tahe old Genconnect Boards that were hosted on > Rootsweb. I don't know what happened to them or the information posted > but > sometime between the beginning of 2000 and last fall (2001) they > simply > disappeared. May have something to do with the buyout of Rootsweb by > Ancestry.com. > > > > >

    08/09/2002 09:28:13