Thanks Edgar - I found this when I was looking for Isaac Horton Jr., hoped to find him enumerated with his Cypert grandchild. I don't have the page in front of me but probably Mary who traveled to Searcy Co.,AR with him, the daughter of Elizabeth Horton Cypert. I know that no one has found this census but figured I would look myself. I went page by page in ancestry.com - thus the error you caught below. You are good! Thanks much, Judy Weaver In a message dated 11/7/2003 12:36:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Judy, > > There are NO Cypert children listed in Isaac Horton Sr.'s household in the > 1850 census. The only other person in the household is his second wife, Mary > Weaver Horton, age 38. > > I think your problem lies with the fact that the original pages of the 1850 > Wayne County, TN population schedule were bound out of sequence and thus > when microfilmed, were out of sequence. Check your page numbers and > household numbers to verify what I'm saying. > > Isaac Horton Sr., age 92, appears as the last entry on page 326B (650) > household 820/830. On the microfilm, the next page 327 (651) listed Jesse A. > Cypert, age 6 at the top entry. Mary Weaver Horton, age 38 (written Mary > Horton) is listed as the top entry on page 325 (647) with the household No. > 821/831 of F. W. Loyd, age 50 on the next line of that page. Anderson > Cypert, age 30 (household 826/836) is the last entry on that page. The > children at the top of page 327 are Anderson's children as the next > household 827/837 is the listing for Anderson's brother, Robert S. Cypert, > age 36. > > When I transcribed the 1850 population schedule for Wayne County TN (which > appears on the web page), I reorganized the pages based on the household > numbers and by comparing the heads of household against those listed in the > agricultural schedule. Please note that there are also several pages > missing from the bound copy in the National Archives. How many pages I > haven't been able to determine, but I added several names from the > agricultural schedule which do not appear on the population schedule. > > I would assume that those pages were lost either in the making of the other > copies, or lost once the copy arrived at the census office in Washington. > Originally the marshall for each county was supposed to make three copies of > all the schedules: one copy was to be retained in the county while the other > two copies were to be sent to the Secretary of State (or comparable office) > in each state. That worthy official was then to send under proper letter, > the "official" copy to the census office in Washington DC, while retained > the other copy at the state level. > > I've looked for decades for the state copy of the 1850 census records. I > have been informed by the State Archivist that such a copy does not exist. > However, I have learned that such an answer does not constitute truth. It is > possible that somewhere in the bowels of the piles of paper generated by the > office of the Secretary of state of Tennessee, there exists the second copy > of the census pages. > > The copy to have been retained by the county has apparently long since > disappeared as have those copies of the 1860, 1870 and 1880. > > Now before someone asks the question, I will provide the answer. YES, the > enumerators did go house to house in taking the census. That was true from > 1791 (the 1790 census) through 1980. I've seen postings about the census > taker sitting at a local store, tavern or church and the local inhabitants > supposedly came to him. HOGWASH. If the enumerator did such a thing, he was > in direct violation of the laws enacted to take the census and could be > fined for his actions. Since they didn't get paid that much to begin with, > I don't quite see him rishing a substantial fine. > > And as many of you know from trying to read the microfilm of the censuses, > the enumerators, marshalls and others involved in the process were not > always the brightest light in the neighborhood. The censuses were done with > the least expense possible and often the enumerator manufactured his own ink > and quills and used whatever paper was handy to record the information. The > forms were often filled out later in order to "save paper". > > I would imagine that when the assistant marshall (or whoever did it) sat > down to make the three copies required, many errors crept into the final > copies. And it may be true, that only two final copies were made, to be sent > to the Secretary of State's office, and that the local copy was never made. > > Please be aware that census records are often miscompiled. Please check the > household numbers; these are more important than the page numbers. > > Edgar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:53 AM > Subject: [TNWAYNE] Edgar Byler - Horton Question > > > Edgar, > Can you tell me whose Cypert children are listed on the 1850 census with > Isaac Horton Sr? > Thanks, > -- > Judy Weaver > > > >