Hello Clay, I've been reading all the messages concerning the Daniel DNA project with interest. Thanks for including me in the messages between you and Carolyn Smotherman. The final results of the project will most likely shock and surprise some people. Some will wonder why they've wasted so many years persuing an ancestral line that isn't even theirs while others won't accept the DNA results if it eliminates their connection to someone famous. I've been at this for some 20 years now and have run into all kinds. I don't have anything etched in stone that says Plummer Daniel was a son of Hiram Daniel. There is circumstantial evidence to support that possibility however. I have heard of Felix Motlow's research on the Daniel family. Unfortunately I've never seen any documentation to support his claims. Strange that whenever I ask researchers that use Motlow's research what he based his research on I rarely get a response. Often never hearing from them again. Just because people lived in the same county or area with the same surname doesn't neccessarily make them siblings. One question I've ask Motlow followers is how does he explain Robert C. Daniel residing beside Hiram Daniel in 1810 Buncombe County, North Carolina? Motlow claims the family of Joseph "Jobe" Daniel moved to Bedford County, Tennessee in 1808. If Robert C. Daniel was in Bedford County, Tennessee by 1808 with Jobe's family, how did he meet Nancy Kimsey whose family was residing in Buncombe County, North Carolina at the time? Robert and Nancy apparently were married about 1810 with their oldest child born in 1813. Speaking of the oldest child, I find it interesting that Robert C. Daniel named his oldest son Hiram and his second son Benjamin after Nancy's father but didn't name any of his other sons Joseph or Jobe. Now that seems really odd to me. Especially since Robert had around 17 kids with at least 12 of them sons. To me it looks like there's something wrong with the theory of Robert being the son of Joseph "Jobe" Daniel. I could be wrong. Don't have anything etched in stone. All I'm seeking is the truth and as they say on the X Files, "The truth is out there." Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clay Daniels" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:07 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Plummer Daniel > Plummer Daniel was born in North Carolina in 1797. > > My gg-grandfather Robert Calaway Daniel was born July 18, 1791 in North > Carolina, the fifth child of Joseph (Jobe) Daniel (ca 1750-ca 1814) and > Elizabeth (Calaway) Andress Daniel (ca 1757 - ca 1853). The family of > Joseph and Elizabeth Calaway Daniel came to Bedford County Tennessee about > 1808 and settled near the Lincoln County line, in what is now Moore County. > Robert C. Daniel died in Bedford County on 16 May 1870 "after living 78 > years 9 months 28 days," and was buried on his farm on Daniel Hollow Road > (now in Moore County). This ancestry is supported by the research of Felix > W. Motlow of Lynchburg, and the research of Evelyn Van Meter, who wrote the > article on the Robert C. Daniel family published in the Bedford County > Family History Book. > > Plummer Daniel seems to have come from Rhea County Tennessee in the 1830's > and settled near Robert C. Daniel in Bedford County. Robert C. Daniel and > Hezekiah Ray were witnesses to the sale of 60 acres by Elijah Parker to > Plummer Daniel on December 12, 1836. Plummer and Robert were residing in > Dist. No. 24 according to the 1836 Bedford County, TN tax list. > > Plummer Daniel moved to Wayne County Tennessee about 1854, and has many > descendants. > > Recently completed 12 marker Y-chromosome DNA tests done by > www.familytreedna.com show that samples from me, Clay Daniels, as a direct > male descendant of Robert Calaway Daniel are an exact match with those of > Faron Daniel, a direct male descendant of Plummer Daniel. We are in the > process of upgrading to the 25 marker test, but the 12 marker results are > conclusive enough to indicate that Robert C. Daniel and Plummer Daniel had a > common male ancestor. Conclusive enough that our of some 10,000 samples so > far collected by Family Tree DNA, we are the only two with this particular > 12 marker DNA code. > > The question now is how Plummer and Robert C. Daniel are related. Their ages > and common birthplace suggest they are brothers but the DNA results only say > they have a common male ancestor, so they could be uncle/nephew or cousins > too. > > Hoping to figure this out, > > Clay Daniels > > This was posted to both the Bedford and Wayne County lists. > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > >