Sorry Angela I was talking to Barbara Wallace she ask me for some help I sent her stuff and never heard from her Jalena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela" <gapeachy24@comcast.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Barbara >I dont know if I have recieved it or not....I am looking for Jenkins or > Livingstons that lived in Wayne county ...waynesboro Tn.....in 1869 > .....my > grandmother was Mary Jenkins...on some papers Mary Jenkins > Livingston.....we > dont know why she had 2 last names....we cant find anything on her > family....all we know is she married William Hesler in 1869 in Wayne > County....William was from Ohio....she suppose to have been born in > Arkansas.....that is all we know........ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jpeck612004" <jpeck612004@xanadoo.com> > To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Barbara > > >>I sent you some info awhile back and never heard anything from you was it >> usefull >> Jalena >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I sent you some info awhile back and never heard anything from you was it usefull Jalena

Nena and list members, I have also bought the book the "Buggar Saga" and have read about half of it. It certainly stirs up your imagination. My gg grandfather, John Worthen, lived in Wayne Co., at least 32 years and died in 1862, in TN. I would really like to know if he died of natural causes of if the "gang" or soldiers had anything to do with his death? I do know that John's youngest son, Jesses was later found down in Walker Co., AL. Jesse was about 10 years old when the Civil War started. His mother, Nancy P. Hardin and son John was not in the 1860 census. He married Mary Jane Kitchens in AL and had 4 children: John (died as infant abt 1875); Mary ma. Samuel Ray Hight; Rose Etta ma. Oliver Joseph Clark; no information on Mattie; and Aid. You can find more information on Jesse in the "Wayne County, Tennessee Families" book. James E. and Nancy M., children of John Worthen and listed on the 1860 census of Wayne co. seem to have vanished. James was old enough to serve in the later part of the war. If anyone has information on members of these families I would appreciate your response. Thank you, Barbara Warthen Wallace Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] the Buggar Saga " I bought the book the "Buggar Saga" and have read most of it...sure puts a new spin on our perceptions of our ancestors! No where in this book does it mention J. W. Darnell. I wonder how I would go about finding out more information about who exactly was part of this "gang" of Union forces stationed at Collinwood.".................... Nena

Hello all, I bought the book the "Buggar Saga" and have read most of it...sure puts a new spin on our perceptions of our ancestors! No where in this book does it mention J. W. Darnell. I wonder how I would go about finding out more information about who exactly was part of this "gang" of Union forces stationed at Collinwood. David you were right this was fascinating reading...a must for anyone who's ancestors were living in the area at the time. Nena

Perhaps we can connect some of the Scotts in recent mailings to the list to these Scotts. I have the following letter, written by Rosamond P. Scott to his father John Scott in Wayne County, Tennessee. Part of Rosamond's family left Illinois for California, while some, I believe, remained in Illinois. Rosamond's wife, Elizabeth Watson, was the daughter of John Watson of Hardin County. He also had a brother, John b. 1845 who married Martha Watson, another daughter of John Watson. I believe they had a son William bo about 1836. This John must have died prior to 1845 as Rosamond referenced John's wife, Patsy, in the letter below. I have never been able to find William or his descendants. Notes on Scott family.... Reference p.2, Goodspeeds Wayne County, Tennessee History According to Goodspeeds' R. P. Scott moved to Wayne County, TN in 1820 about the same time as John Akin and also about the time as John Watson. Wayne County, Tennessee 1830 Census John Scott, Sr. 000100001-/00011- Rosamond P. Scott 320001-/000001- Free Whites: Male: under 5 years/5 to 10/10 to 15/15 to 20/20 to 30/30 to 40/40 to 50/50 to 60/60 to 70/70 to 80/80 to 90/90 to 100/100 and up. Female: under 5 years/5 to 10/10 to 15/15 to 20/20 to 30/30 to 40/40 to 50/50 to 60/60 to 70/70 to 80/80 to 90/90 to 100/100 and up. 1850 United States Federal Census Name: Rosamond Scott Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Birth place: Georgia Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Township 5 N R 8 W, Madison Co., Illinois Page: 553 Roll: M432_119 1850 Hardin County Census 27 76 76 Scott, Martha 55 F 28 76 76 Scott, William 14 M The following is taken from FTM - Descendants of John S. or L. Scott James. B Scott Rosamond Peterson Scott enlisted in the War of 1812 from Dickson Co., TN and served in the West Tennessee Militia under Captain Francis Ellis in the Infantry 2nd Reg. Militia. He was honorably discharged from Reynoldsburg and fought under General Jackson at New Orleans. He married Elizabeth Watson, dau. of John Watson, on April 22, 1822. They had eight children. During the twenty to twenty five years that Rosamond was in TN he farmed and taught school. He and his family moved to Liberty Prairie, Madison Co., IL in 1837. Since his brother Joseph died and left a large family of small children, it can be assumed that he moved to IL to help Joseph's family. His wife Elizabeth died May 6, 1844 and he married Delilah Squires on Feb. 16, 1851. There were no children born of that marriage. Rosamond died May 25, 1852 in a cholera epidemic and is buried in a pasture 1/2 mile south of Alton and Greenville Road, on the west side of the Prairie Town Road.[JohnWatsondescendants.F! TW] Reference p.2, Goodspeeds Wayne County, Tennessee History According to Goodspeeds' R. P. Scott moved to Wayne County, TN in 1820 about the same time as John Akin and also about the time as John Watson. Illinois, Madison County, January 12th 1845 Dear father, Brothers, Sisters and friends I avail myself of the present opportunity to let you all know that myself and family are at present all well hoping that this letter may find you well in possession of all the blessings that may be in the order of providence for the good of all of us. I received your letter of the eighth last month on yesteday the 11th of January which gave me satisfaction to hear from you yet sorrow to hear of your past and present affliction but such is the lot of mankind and our only duty and interest is to seek for perfect submission to God’s profideness. If even I can obtain such humility I shall then be better able to reconcile myself to my own misfortune. Otherwise I know that I shall never again be even a tolerably contented man. I learn with sorrow and regret of the same misfortune becoming the lot of so many of my old friends that has fallen to my own lot. We are still doing the best we can. We keep our house ourselves but will hi! re some sperson if we can happen to get a man and his wife without children. Otherwise we shall live as we best can. The last season here was a bad crop season. Tho there is a plentiful support for the country, there is not much of a surpluss of any kind of produce. I have not seen Brother William for the Past three months he was tolerably well. Mary and family was then well and all doing as well as they could but William T. Scott I am sorry to say that I do not think that there is a triflinger creature upon the face of the earth. I have taken some pains to counsel and reclaim him but you might just as well reason to a stump or advise Satan to become a saint. My boys all remain sober steady and industrious to my fullest satisfaction and I have a great desire to live to see Miles and Keller up as the rest is as they have (???) living mother. Times are yet hard here tho easier than one two and three years past. We owe some yet toward some of our land but if we can have one good crop season we will not have to say so this time next year. We are doing well as any person here. We have all the property that we now need. We have five head of horses, thirty six head of cattle, sixteen of them ???? steers, two good strong wagons and all the farming utensils that we can use. We have thirty eight acres in wheat. That is as good a prospect as an any in my knowledge tho all the wheat in this county was sown late in consequence of dry weather the early part of last summer was the wettest season that I ever did see. Since the first of August there has been almost no rain atall tho as respects the county of common seasons it is by far the best farmers country that you or me has any knowledge of and can in my opinion exceed by none for corn, oats, wheat, Irish Potatoes, cabbage, turnips, timothy bluegrass, and in short a! nything that the climate is suited to for length of season. The people is in our neighborhood the most steady sober industrious honest and virtuousest people fewer exceptions than I have fallen amongst anywhere in my life the greatest difficulty is that within a mile or so all round me there is people from every state in the union from England Ireland Scotland Germany and Switzerland speaking English French high and low Dutch and the galic languages all with their own customs and ?? about by. Methodists of two orders Baptists of three orders Presbyterians of two orders the Dutch informed churchmen and of the Scotch Kirkers? and Lutherans inso much that society will not in my opinion be strongly united for some time to come in our prairie as was doubtless fashionable in Eden. The great chase that seems to be going on all over the globe in every order from the most diminutive of the animal creation through every grade up to man for the mastery and presence over each othe! r is a good stumbling stone to me when contemplating the benif! icense o f the adorable Diety. The last eight months of time has furnished more poor mortals with a passport to Eternity amongst my acquaintance in neighbors here than in the seven previous years together had done. There is already within six miles of us four persons been buried in 1845 all very old but one and him the father of a large family. Amongst the rest of the death that have lately occurred close to me was your old acquaintance friend and brother George Prichett and his son Isaac. I want you and Brother James and Samuel Watson all to write to me. I wish to know who is sheriff and representative of Wayne and Hardin Counties who is responsible men?? At Carrollville and how the best superfine flour would sell there by the Barrel and who would be the most suitable person to cosine ?? hundred barrels to. I am almost hopeless politically tho supporting Polk with enthusiasm and am always against the ??milkboy??? of the ???? Harry of the west, the great Kentuckian, Henry Clay. I have tho utmost c! onfidence in the abilities of Mr. Polk and of his honorable high mindedness and believe the people were in their wisdom to place the laurel on his brow when I have no doubt it will flourish if it should not be plucked off by his political friends for it is impossible for him to know every body in filling his appointments. He is compelled to consult his friends to ascertain the qualifications of individuals and I do think there is a click in each state that will care for nothing but loaves and fishes and if it is possible will ??receave?? the president Elect to obtain the result of their selfish purposes. This will always be dangerous while the halls of congress is filled by those who merely make the most noise. I wish to know particularly how sister Patsey gets along and if she could be persuaded to come and see this country if myself or brother William would see her home again with her little William. I intend to come there as soon as I can but I do not intend to leave the boys alone until I can hire some man and woman to live with them while I should be gone. So soon as I can leave them in that situation I intend to come quickly. Your loving son till death John Scott, Rosamond P. Scott Paddock’s Grove, Ill. Jan 16 1845 Mr. John Scott Wayne County, Tennessee Carrolsville P.O. Descendants of John S. or L. Scott 1 John S. or L. Scott .. +Unknown ........ 2 Ginny Scott ........ 2 James Scott ........ 2 Tabby Scott ........ 2 William Scott ........ 2 Joseph Scott 1792 - 1835 ............ +Mary Tatum ................... 3 Elizabeth Scott ................... 3 Lucreetia Scott ....................... +R. H. Bowan ................... 3 Peggy Scott ................... 3 John R. Scott 1819 - 1835 ................... 3 William T. Scott 1821 - 1908 ................... 3 James R. Scott 1827 - 1902 ................... 3 Richard C. Scott 1830 - ................... 3 [2] Rebecca Scott 1832 - 1906 ....................... +[1] John Lemon Scott 1823 - 1864 ................... 3 Joseph W. Scott 1835 - 1880 ........ 2 Rosamond Peterson Scott 1796 - 1852 ............ +Delilah Squires ........ *2nd Wife of Rosamond Peterson Scott: ............ +Elizabeth "Betsy" Watson 1794 - 1844 ................... 3 [1] John Lemon Scott 1823 - 1864 ....................... +[2] Rebecca Scott 1832 - 1906 ................... 3 Samuel Watson Scott 1824 - 1876 ....................... +Frances "Fannie" Belk 1829 - 1888 ................... 3 Joseph Willison Scott 1826 - 1827 ................... 3 James Millege Scott 1828 - 1876 ................... 3 Miles Allen Scott 1830 - 1876 ....................... +Elizabeth Belk ................... 3 William Haler Scott 1833 - 1908 ................... 3 Elizabeth Leona Scott 1836 - 1841 ................... 3 Kellar Scott ........ 2 John Scott - 1845 ............ +Martha "Patsy" Smith Watson 1796 - ................... 3 William Scott 1836 - A self-appointed family historian and proud of it. You can check out my family's history at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hookersbend/ Life is too short for drama & petty things, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly!

David Cagle, Steve Cooper, Sylvia and all the rest, Thanks to everyone on this list for there efforts to help me today. Like the Darnell line the Howard lines probably link up somewhere further back and probably eastward. It's like tying to sort out the stars in the sky... I'll shut up now and let someone else have a turn. Nena nena_w@att.net

I forgot to add this sorry Jalena Robert Cornelius Scott born 22 Feb 1863 in Wansborough, Tennessee died 9 Oct 1945 Father Tom Scott, birth unknown ( they messed up here put the wrong father) mother Polly Berry, born Wansborough, Tennessee

Nene, It appears that the Howards I knew were not related to your J. W. Howard that I can tell. The three Howard boys that are about my age belonged to W. S. Howard Jr., b. 1915 probably at Clifton. He was a merchant in our lifetime in Clifton. His father was William S. Howard Sr. b. 1867-68, probably in Tishomingo MS. The next in line was Robert Howard, b. 1844 also in MS. Robert's father was apparently Samuel Howard, b. 1807 in NC. I got all my information from the census. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Howards RE: David Cagle > Hi David, > > Thank you so much for your response...I've seen your name on several of > these county boards...you are the President of Hardin County Historical > Society?...and guardian of the TNHardin board? > > Yes, it is frustrating, apparently NO ONE is interested in this family > except me. > > This is what I know of the Howards: > > Martha Howard, b abt 1856, married R. B. Darnell, b 1854 in Wayne County > Tennessee on 1 May 1875. (Wayne Co. Marriages) (my great great > grandparents) > > They are on the 1880 Census District 12 in Wayne County as what looks like > > Robert (C.) Darnell, and Martha (his wife), with children, > > William J.J. 3, (1877) and > Lovada E. 1, (1889) > (They are on the same page as Roberts Brother, William Darnell and their > mother Elizabeth Bennett Darnell). > > Robert and Martha also had > > Robert Bailey Darnell, b 1884, TX > James Craven Darnell, b 1886 Ark and > Mattie Darnell, b 1888. > > There is some evidence to suggest that Martha may have died giving birth > to > Mattie. Family history indicates she was given away at birth to a Dr. > Brown > and his wife who moved to Texas. (she married and lived in Ark near where > the radio show Lum and Abner broadcast in the 1940's. The Mattie Belle > they > were always talking about on their show was Mattie Darnell, she was their > neighbor.) > > Then Robert remarry's Mary Jane Bradley about 1890, Al. > > I have Martha's parents as J. W. Howard, b 1822 in SC. Her mother > Elizabeth > M. Unknown, b 1832 Al. > > 1860 Census of Wayne Co. > > J.W. Howard, 38, (1822) wife Elizabeth M, 38, (1822) > > Children: > > Samuel W., 10 (1850), > Mary F., 6 (1854), > Martha A., 4 (1856), and > Rebecca (?)., 1 (1859). This was Factory Fork. > > Samuel married Frances (1846) and had John (1880) and James (1883): > (1900 Census McNairy Co son James living with him and son John, 20 is next > door.) Also in the I920 McNairy Co, both John and Jim still live there. > > John Howard, (1880) Married Jessie (1881) and had daughter Vesta (1899) > (John lived near Shiloh.) > > James (Jim) Howard, (1883) Married Donie (1878) and had daughter Gracie > Mae > Howard (1915) > > James (Jim) moved to Macon, Fayette County TN and remarried Daisey (1901). > He died in Macon, Fayette Co., TN and is buried in Macon Cemetery. > > (Macon, Fayette Co., Tn is Where MY Darnell family is from, Robert Baily > Darnell, b 1884 moved into Macon after 1910). > > > Though J. W. Howard lived in Factory Creek they were not mentioned in the > book. I have found little information on him. > > Sorry so wordy > Nena > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM > >

anybody have info on livingstons or jenkins or jenken in wayne county?

this is a brother to my John David Scott from waynesboro ten. I sent off for a death cert.see what it tells me thanks Jalena 1 Robert Cornelius SCOTT ---------------------------------------- Birth: 22 Feb 1863, Tennessee Death: 9 Oct 1945, Tahoka, Lynn County, Texas Burial: Tahoka Cemetery, Tahoka, Lynn County, Texas Father: Frederick Marion SCOTT (1832-~1865) Mother: Mary BERRY (1838-1915) Lynn County News, Tahoka, 12 October 1945, front/back page R C Scott, 82 years old service at 1st Baptist, Harris Funeral Home survived by aged companion 7 daughters (all apparently listed as "Mrs") of Tahoka- N W Smith, R R Lee, E J Cobb, H L Duckett, G L Herrin of Lubbock- M B Norris of Estancia, NM- C L Blackwell 5 daughters and 1 son preceded him in death 16 grdchl, 3 grtgrdchld grandsons in military Pvt Billy Harris Smith, killed in action at Cebu Island, April 12 Pvt Billy Jack Hancock of the Marines in Okinawa and returned to US Sgt R S Smith parachute rigger in England/France here on furlough Sgt W L Moody served in Quartermaster Air Force in various European sites, came home in July born in Waynesboro, Tennessee married Miss Alice Lay there on 7 October 1900 moved to Texas years ago, and moved from Stephenville to Lynn County in 1927 Lynn County Death certificate Robert Cornelius Scott born 22 Feb 1863 in Wansborough, Tennessee died 9 Oct 1945 Father Tom Scott, birth unknown mother Polly Berry, born Wansborough, Tennessee informed by Mrs N M Smith of Tahoka Harris Funeral Home NOTE: I suspect it is Waynesboro, Wayne County, Tennessee Spouse: Alice LAY Birth: 1878 Death: 1958, Lynn County, Texas Marr: 7 Oct 1900, Waynesboro, Wayne County, Tennessee Children: Ida Mellie (1901-1990) Roxie Viola Bell (1905-1958) Gracie Valena (1907-1945) Edith Opal (1910-1997) Marland W (1912-1930) Dorothy LoDell (1914-1997) Bobbie M (1916-2000) Other Spouses unknown

I just wont to tell ya'll dont give up stop for alittle while or start working on another family name that is what I do then when you least expect it someone shows up with info on a family u are looking for or something dawns on you that you didnt check on so I have been there and there now but I will not give up there somewhere they cant hide for ever lol Jalena

I am always envious of the chatter among distant cousins--I know my Lothlen's/ Carter's, perhaps, Merediths and Walkers were from Wayne and Hickman counties. I have had some wonderful responses from people and then had very dry times with some very thick Brick walls. Give as much info as you can and orient in time, if at all possible. That helps in figuring out if there is a relative. I would love to connect William Kesner with Mary Meredith or Merideth...and be able to connect with one of the Meredith families--my connections to Wayne county are early in the 1817-1840's and then until the death of the last Carter sister in the late 1890s. So it is just that sometimes you are at the head of the research and others have to catch up....Happy hunting. Jan -----Original Message----- From: tnwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nena Wright Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:55 PM To: tnwayne@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNWAYNE] Howards Just curious: I have asked now on this message board about 4 or 5 times over the last year or so about the Howards of Wayne County...much like Steve Cooper's query about the Hill family. I have also posted inquires on the Wayne County sight. I have never gotten a response of any kind. I am just curious... Am I asking the wrong question's? Am I doing this all wrong? Do I need to ask specific questions about specific records? Is there some product call I am in fringing upon? Please enlighten me Nena Wright Hondo, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nena: Someone may help sometime. We just have to keep digging. No one seems to know about my HILL family. I am just trying to get lucky. Maybe someone is new to this list and can help me or you. I have made many friends and have got a lot of help from this list. I have been knowing for over 20 years that Joseph Cooper married Martha Ann Hill in Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1845 and that both of them are buried at the Balentine Cemetery at Cypress Inn, Tennessee. I just can't connect Martha Ann to any Hill family. Good luck with your research. SteveCooper Cloverdale, Lauderdale County, Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:54 PM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Howards > Just curious: > > I have asked now on this message board about 4 or 5 times over the last year > or so about the Howards of Wayne County...much like Steve Cooper's query > about the Hill family. > > I have also posted inquires on the Wayne County sight. > > I have never gotten a response of any kind. > > I am just curious... > > Am I asking the wrong question's? Am I doing this all wrong? Do I need to > ask specific questions about specific records? Is there some product call I > am in fringing upon? > > Please enlighten me > > Nena Wright > Hondo, Texas > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/08 6:37 PM > >

Thank you for that fond memory...Norman, As you can see (in my response to David Cagle) I have not made a connection with the Howards who owned the store...but I suspect they are the same family. I haven't done much research on this family line...most of what I have (as you said) came from another family researcher who "was researching before the computer age." Obviously Robert and Martha moved away from Wayne County and traveled to Arkansas and Texas...perhaps she died there... Robert died (I think) in Cross County Arkansas on June 25 1917. I didn't respond to Donita's Barkley's "migration to Arkansas" request because I believed she was talking about a different time period. My relatives migration would have been between 1880 and 1884. Perhaps if we looked at W. S. Howard's line we could find a common link. Who was his father, were they from Wayne County? Thanks Nena

Hi David, Thank you so much for your response...I've seen your name on several of these county boards...you are the President of Hardin County Historical Society?...and guardian of the TNHardin board? Yes, it is frustrating, apparently NO ONE is interested in this family except me. This is what I know of the Howards: Martha Howard, b abt 1856, married R. B. Darnell, b 1854 in Wayne County Tennessee on 1 May 1875. (Wayne Co. Marriages) (my great great grandparents) They are on the 1880 Census District 12 in Wayne County as what looks like Robert (C.) Darnell, and Martha (his wife), with children, William J.J. 3, (1877) and Lovada E. 1, (1889) (They are on the same page as Roberts Brother, William Darnell and their mother Elizabeth Bennett Darnell). Robert and Martha also had Robert Bailey Darnell, b 1884, TX James Craven Darnell, b 1886 Ark and Mattie Darnell, b 1888. There is some evidence to suggest that Martha may have died giving birth to Mattie. Family history indicates she was given away at birth to a Dr. Brown and his wife who moved to Texas. (she married and lived in Ark near where the radio show Lum and Abner broadcast in the 1940's. The Mattie Belle they were always talking about on their show was Mattie Darnell, she was their neighbor.) Then Robert remarry's Mary Jane Bradley about 1890, Al. I have Martha's parents as J. W. Howard, b 1822 in SC. Her mother Elizabeth M. Unknown, b 1832 Al. 1860 Census of Wayne Co. J.W. Howard, 38, (1822) wife Elizabeth M, 38, (1822) Children: Samuel W., 10 (1850), Mary F., 6 (1854), Martha A., 4 (1856), and Rebecca (?)., 1 (1859). This was Factory Fork. Samuel married Frances (1846) and had John (1880) and James (1883): (1900 Census McNairy Co son James living with him and son John, 20 is next door.) Also in the I920 McNairy Co, both John and Jim still live there. John Howard, (1880) Married Jessie (1881) and had daughter Vesta (1899) (John lived near Shiloh.) James (Jim) Howard, (1883) Married Donie (1878) and had daughter Gracie Mae Howard (1915) James (Jim) moved to Macon, Fayette County TN and remarried Daisey (1901). He died in Macon, Fayette Co., TN and is buried in Macon Cemetery. (Macon, Fayette Co., Tn is Where MY Darnell family is from, Robert Baily Darnell, b 1884 moved into Macon after 1910). Though J. W. Howard lived in Factory Creek they were not mentioned in the book. I have found little information on him. Sorry so wordy Nena

Nena: I agree with David that it is frustrating sometimes. I tried for several years asking for info on the Jeter, Churchwell, Ray and Culp families with no responses. Then, suddenly you will get a hit and get pointed in the right direction. David is right about the fact that a lot of families are not into geneology sometimes or they aren't subscribers. Some of my best material came from folks who had done research before the computer age. The few years I lived in Clifton, in the 50's, I remember going to W. S. Howard's grocery and sticking my hand into that semi-cool Coke tank to get a Chocolate Solider or small Coke. The store was on the same side of the street as the old Russ hotel and the the theatre, at least I think so. I remember once going into the store and watching as the clerk(Ibeleive one of the Howard boys) pulled out a match box from under the counter and opening it to reveal a large tarantula that had come in a bunch of bananas. That was very impressive. Are you looking for a specific Howard? My dad, W. J. Jeter, lives in Kentucky now and at age 89 was near the age of W. S. He has a pretty good memory if you ask specific questions. I got a lot of my mother's family history from him. Norman Jeter Clarksville, TN On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:10:30 -0600 "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> writes: > Nena, > It is frustrating isn't it. It happens that there is no one from > that > family that is interested in genealogy, and the ones that might be > are not > subscribed to this list. I don't have one scrap of material on the > Howards, > yet I know in later years, in the 20th century, there has been a > Howard > family that lived in Wayne County in Clifton and in the northeast > part of > Hardin County. It is still the same today. I think I can do a > little > research and come up with this family tree, however, still not sure > that any > of that family is interested. At this minute, the oldest Howard I > know was > William Howard. His son, W. S. Howard ran a grocery store in > Clifton and > the three sons of W. S. live in this area today. I also know the > Howards > are related to the Burrough and Copeland families. I'll see what I > can > find. > David Cagle > Hardin County > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> > To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:54 PM > Subject: [TNWAYNE] Howards > > > > Just curious: > > > > I have asked now on this message board about 4 or 5 times over the > last > > year > > or so about the Howards of Wayne County...much like Steve Cooper's > query > > about the Hill family. > > > > I have also posted inquires on the Wayne County sight. > > > > I have never gotten a response of any kind. > > > > I am just curious... > > > > Am I asking the wrong question's? Am I doing this all wrong? Do > I need > > to > > ask specific questions about specific records? Is there some > product call > > I > > am in fringing upon? > > > > Please enlighten me > > > > Nena Wright > > Hondo, Texas > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: > 1/19/2008 > > 6:37 PM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In my own search for connecting families, I discovered this excellent database, which covers more Wayne County families who relocated to Arkansas, and maybe will provide clues for someone's research. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2937955&id=I65852 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Don't know if anyone is interested, but we had recently been talking about people from Wayne County migrating to Arkansas and I had responded that several of the family names in Southern Missouri and in neighboring Arkansas counties were the same as many I had noticed as coming from Wayne County. Anyway, here is some information on the Copelands. Descendants of David Copeland Generation No. 1 1. DAVID1 COPELAND was born 1750 in Ireland, and died 1824 in Arkansas. He married JANE CRAIG. She was born 1748, and died 1817 in Tennessee. Child of DAVID COPELAND and JANE CRAIG is: 2. i. JAMES2 COPELAND, b. 1775, Orange Co, North Carolina; d. 1843, Montgomery Co, Illinois. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES2 COPELAND (DAVID1) was born 1775 in Orange Co, North Carolina, and died 1843 in Montgomery Co, Illinois. He married ANN CAMERON 11 Sep 1800 in Blount Co, Tennessee. She was born in Tennessee, and died 1826 in Tennessee. Child of JAMES COPELAND and ANN CAMERON is: 3. i. JAMES C3 COPELAND, b. 1801, Tennessee; d. 1890, Phelps Co, Missouri. Generation No. 3 3. JAMES C3 COPELAND (JAMES2, DAVID1) was born 1801 in Tennessee, and died 1890 in Phelps Co, Missouri. He married SARAH WEBB 09 Aug 1825 in Maury Co, Tennessee, daughter of MEREDITH WEBB and MARY HAFLEY. She was born Jul 1804 in Shelby Co, Kentucky, and died 1872 in Pope Co, Arkansas. Child of JAMES COPELAND and SARAH WEBB is: 4. i. ALEXANDER N4 COPELAND, b. Nov 1831, Wayne Co, Tennessee; d. 27 May 1901, Alco, Stone Co, Arkansas. Generation No. 4 4. ALEXANDER N4 COPELAND (JAMES C3, JAMES2, DAVID1) was born Nov 1831 in Wayne Co, Tennessee, and died 27 May 1901 in Alco, Stone Co, Arkansas. He married (1) SARAH MABREY 1849 in Wayne Co, Tennessee, daughter of ORAN MABREY and MARY RICKETTS. She was born 1831 in Tennessee, and died 23 Sep 1881 in Alco, Stone Co, Arkansas. He married (2) NANCY JANE FREEMAN 05 Nov 1881 in Stone Co, Arkansas. She was born 05 Aug 1865 in Searcy, AR/Searcy Co., AR, and died 05 Mar 1926 in Landis, Searcy, AR. More About ALEXANDER N COPELAND: Residence: 1850, Campbell, Searcy, Arkansas Children of ALEXANDER COPELAND and SARAH MABREY are: i. MARY JANE5 COPELAND, b. 03 Jun 1850; d. 16 Apr 1925. ii. KATHARINE COPELAND, b. 1853; d. 1867. iii. AMANDA COPELAND, b. 1855; d. 1869. iv. LOUISA COPELAND, b. 1856; d. 1857. v. ALEXANDER COPELAND, b. 1858; d. 1876. 5. vi. ORAN AARON COPELAND, b. Sep 1859, Stone Co, Arkansas; d. 1934, Stone, AR. vii. ULYSIS S COPELAND, b. 1869; d. 1870. viii. NELLIE COPELAND, b. 1875; d. 1889. Children of ALEXANDER COPELAND and NANCY FREEMAN are: ix. NORA E5 COPELAND, b. 03 Mar 1883, Alco, AR; d. 16 Oct 1963, Leslie, AR. x. ICIPHINE MELISSA COPELAND, b. 18 Aug 1884, Alco, AR; d. 17 Mar 1968, Fifty Six, AR. xi. THOMAS NEWTON COPELAND, b. 03 Mar 1887, Alco, Stone, AR; d. 17 Mar 1968, Leslie, AR. xii. JOSEPH FRANK COPELAND, b. 23 Nov 1889, Alco, AR; d. 1961, Mt View, AR. xiii. TOLLY ROSCO COPELAND, b. 01 May 1891, Alco, AR; d. 1924, Mountain View, Stone, AR. xiv. MILLIS MILLARD COPELAND, b. 18 Jun 1893, Alco, AR; d. 1894. Generation No. 5 5. ORAN AARON5 COPELAND (ALEXANDER N4, JAMES C3, JAMES2, DAVID1) was born Sep 1859 in Stone Co, Arkansas, and died 1934 in Stone, AR. He married (1) MARTHA A GIBSON 11 Sep 1881 in Stone Co, Arkansas, daughter of JAMES GIBSON. She was born 1866 in Lincoln Co, Missouri, and died 1892 in Stone Co, Arkansas. He married (2) AMANDA E BRANSCOM 13 Aug 1893 in Searcy Co, Arkansas. She was born 1869 in KY, and died 1915 in Stone, AR. Children of ORAN COPELAND and MARTHA GIBSON are: i. MARY L6 COPELAND, b. Oct 1882, Stone, Ar. ii. SARAH JANE COPLAND, b. 19 May 1885, Stone, AR; d. 12 Oct 1934. iii. ALICE CLEMENTINE COPELAND, b. 04 Apr 1890, Stone Co, Ark; d. 07 Jan 1963, Canaan, Searcy, AR. 6. iv. WILLIAM A COPELAND, b. 09 May 1892, Stone Co, Arkansas; d. 13 Oct 1942, Searcy Co, Arkansas. Children of ORAN COPELAND and AMANDA BRANSCOM are: v. RHODA M6 COPELAND, b. Jun 1896, Arkansas; d. 1920. vi. DOSHA COPELAND, b. Jan 1900, Arkansas; d. 1977. vii. WILLIS ELDRIDGE COPELAND, b. 08 Jan 1902, Arkansas; d. 23 Jan 1957. viii. ABNER EDGAR COPELAND, b. 29 Mar 1905, Arkansas; d. 04 Jan 1964. ix. GARLIS R COPELAND, b. 18 Jan 1907, Arkansas; d. 01 Mar 1965. x. HAROLD V COPELAND, b. 1909, Arkansas. Generation No. 6 6. WILLIAM A6 COPELAND (ORAN AARON5, ALEXANDER N4, JAMES C3, JAMES2, DAVID1) was born 09 May 1892 in Stone Co, Arkansas, and died 13 Oct 1942 in Searcy Co, Arkansas. He married VERLIE PASSMORE 1931 in Searcy Co, Arkansas, daughter of WILLIAM PASSMORE and SARAH GAMMILL. She was born 08 Aug 1910 in Searcy Co, Arkansas, and died 30 Jul 1990 in Paris, Lamar Co, Texas. Children of WILLIAM COPELAND and VERLIE PASSMORE are: i. LIVING7 COPELAND. ii. WILLIAM ORAN COPELAND, b. 26 Mar 1934, Searcy Co, Arkansas; d. 06 Nov 1983, Tipton, Tulare Co, California. iii. ROBERT COPELAND, b. 08 Jan 1936, Searcy Co, Arkansas; d. 04 Jan 2007, California. 7. iv. BETTY COPELAND, b. 21 Jun 1938, Searcy Co, Arkansas; d. 10 Jun 1996, Kingsburg, Fresno Co, California. Generation No. 7 7. BETTY7 COPELAND (WILLIAM A6, ORAN AARON5, ALEXANDER N4, JAMES C3, JAMES2, DAVID1) was born 21 Jun 1938 in Searcy Co, Arkansas, and died 10 Jun 1996 in Kingsburg, Fresno Co, California. She married ROBERT TIMOTHY STEGALL. He was born 30 Apr 1936 in Los Angeles, California, and died 25 Oct 1992 in Kings Co, California. Children of BETTY COPELAND and ROBERT STEGALL are: i. LIVING8 STEGALL. ii. LIVING STEGALL. iii. LIVING STEGALL. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Nena, It is frustrating isn't it. It happens that there is no one from that family that is interested in genealogy, and the ones that might be are not subscribed to this list. I don't have one scrap of material on the Howards, yet I know in later years, in the 20th century, there has been a Howard family that lived in Wayne County in Clifton and in the northeast part of Hardin County. It is still the same today. I think I can do a little research and come up with this family tree, however, still not sure that any of that family is interested. At this minute, the oldest Howard I know was William Howard. His son, W. S. Howard ran a grocery store in Clifton and the three sons of W. S. live in this area today. I also know the Howards are related to the Burrough and Copeland families. I'll see what I can find. David Cagle Hardin County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:54 PM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Howards > Just curious: > > I have asked now on this message board about 4 or 5 times over the last > year > or so about the Howards of Wayne County...much like Steve Cooper's query > about the Hill family. > > I have also posted inquires on the Wayne County sight. > > I have never gotten a response of any kind. > > I am just curious... > > Am I asking the wrong question's? Am I doing this all wrong? Do I need > to > ask specific questions about specific records? Is there some product call > I > am in fringing upon? > > Please enlighten me > > Nena Wright > Hondo, Texas > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM > >

Well, Thanks Sylvia, That's a response, anyway. : ) Nena