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Nena, The land where Clifton sits was in Hardin County until about 1850. Following is a part of an article I wrote a while back about Clifton and the change form one county to another. The Union Gang you are referring to was mostly the 2nd Mounted Infantry, US, companies A, B, C, D, E, H and I from Wayne (and Hardin Co.) stationed at Clifton. They shouldn't get all the credit, E company of the 8th Tennessee Mounted Infantry, US was also from Wayne Co. and were stationed at Clifton for a while. Some of the men in companies G and H of the 6th Cavalry were from Wayne Co., and made their presents felt in this community. This information I got from the two volumes of "Tennesseans in the Civil War" published in 1964 by the Civil War Centennial Commission of Tennessee. I think this information is on line somewhere. David Clifton Tennessee What is today the town of Clifton, in 1821 was the farm of Stephen Roach who was the first Coroner of Hardin County. The branch which forms the west boundary of Clifton, where the boat harbor is located, is named for Stephen Roach. Roach owned 389.5 acres in three tracts, one of which was a 160 acre tract purchased in 1821, being where Clifton is situated. Apparently these and other lands came into the possession of George R. Craft at some point, who on January 3, 1838 in two deeds, sold the Marion Tennessee Iron Works, Ore Banks and several tracts of land to William J. Polk, Evan Young and James Walker for $29,550. On the 10th of February 1845, these three gentlemen sold 100 acres of the 160 acre Roach tract to: Gideon J. Pillow; James B. Pillow; Granville A. Pillow; William J. Polk; Lucius J. Polk; James Walker and Evan Young for the purpose of establishing the Town of Clifton. Apparently, about 1843, these men had been responsible for the establishment and construction of The Columbia Central Turnpike, a Toll Road, which began in Columbia and ran through Maury, Lawrence and Wayne Counties and ended at the extreme northeast corner of Hardin County at the Tennessee River. Then on August 7, 1846, the seven men listed above gave James Walker Power of Attorney, a portion of which is as follows: Whereas the undersigned are just Owners of One Hundred Acres of land lying in the County of Hardin & State of Tennessee on Tennessee River being the place called Roaches Bluff and on which is the Termination of the Columbia Central Turnpike and on which tact of land they desire to lay off a town to be called Clifton and to sell lots in same in such size formed as may be judged expedient.... recorded at the Hardin County Courthouse on the 2nd of May 1849. About this time, the Polks, Pillows, Walker and Young had petitioned the State to annex to Wayne County the northeast corner of Hardin so as to include Clifton, the Marion Furnace and their other holdings. Bobby Alford wrote an article about the Turnpike and Clifton that was printed in the "Lawrence County Advocate," August 8, 2001, which suggested that the reason for the proposed switch was lower taxes and easy control of the local politicians in Wayne County. The act was passed as follows: Public Acts 1850, Chapter 197 An act to attach a portion of Hardin County to Wayne--passed Feb 1. Section 1: Be it enacted etc. That that portion of Hardin County embraced within the following limits be annexed and attached to Wayne County, (viz:) Beginning on the Tennessee River where the lines of Wayne and Hardin County strike the river, running from thence up said Tennessee River with its meanders to the mouth of Masses Creek, thence south to the dividing ridge between said creek and Short Creek, thence with said ridge until it strikes the road leading from the old Marion Furnace to the Indian Creek road, thence with said road to the dividing ridge between Hardin's Creek and Indian Creek, thence east with said ridge to where it strikes the Wayne County line, thence north with said line to the beginning; provided however, this transfer of territory does not reduce Hardin county below her constitutional area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Correction > Sorry, I missed that. > > You are correct Mr. Brewer, I said Collinwood originally. What I meant to > say was I wonder how I would go about finding out more information about > who > exactly was part of this "gang" of Union forces stationed at Clifton. > > So when was Clifton founded? > > My bad. > Nena > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.15/1249 - Release Date: > 1/29/2008 9:51 AM > >

it wont let me go there no access Jalena ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cooperbobw@aol.com> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Check out 1 st Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry - Ancestry.com > _1 st Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry - Ancestry.com_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewStory.aspx?pid=-1955112799&tid=1247132&oid=0753fa6f-e230-4c8a-a864-a5b6 > 9a689d5d&pg=0) > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear 2 Questions, To answer your first question, the book may be purchased through: The following link is to the Lawrence County Webpage. Just scroll down to the table and click on "Books for Sale". Then find "Buggar Saga". http://home.lorettotel.net/~lcarchives/archives.htm Nena

Sorry, I missed that. You are correct Mr. Brewer, I said Collinwood originally. What I meant to say was I wonder how I would go about finding out more information about who exactly was part of this "gang" of Union forces stationed at Clifton. So when was Clifton founded? My bad. Nena

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Sorry, the e-mail below was meant for Jalena not Angela. Barbara Wallace Jalena, I am so sorry that I did not respond to your efforts. If my husband opens his computer before I open mine, all the emails go to his. He had neck surgery and some days later I found about 15 emails and sent them to my computer. I had not opened them until I saw your message tonight. I appreciate all that you sent and will go over the material tomorrow and get back with you. Thank you so much, Barbara Wallace Sorry Angela I was talking to Barbara Wallace she ask me for some help I sent her stuff and never heard from her Jalena

Ok, James...So these were "camped" at Collinwood before it was Collinwood? Apparently it was called Collinwood even then. Nena

> > Barbara Tullahoma is in Coffee County. Camp Forrest was located in Coffee and Franklin Counties. It no longer exists but there are still a lot of old streets and building foundations left. Since the 1950s the entire area is part of Arnold Engineering Development Center , which is a complex of Air Force Testing Facilities. > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:59:44 EST > From: Cooperbobw@aol.com > Subject: [TNWAYNE] Camp Forrest > To: tnwayne@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c8e.1e79b579.34d00cc0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Jim, > > Since you put your address in as Tullahoma, I thought I would like to ask > you what county Tullahoma is located in. I was born near there at Camp > Forrest, Tennessee in 1943, just before my dad went overseas. Do you > know any > interesting things about Cap Forrest? Is it still there? > > Barbara Cooper McGee > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNWAYNE list administrator, send an email to > TNWAYNE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNWAYNE mailing list, send an email to > TNWAYNE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TNWAYNE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28 > **************************************

Jim, Since you put your address in as Tullahoma, I thought I would like to ask you what county Tullahoma is located in. I was born near there at Camp Forrest, Tennessee in 1943, just before my dad went overseas. Do you know any interesting things about Cap Forrest? Is it still there? Barbara Cooper McGee **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I want to jump in here too. My John Worthen of Wayne County had one son, Wm. S. Warthen who moved to Texas in 1854 and wore the Gray, his brother Isaiah wore the Gray first in someone else's place while living in Wayne County, then returned and joined the Blue side. I am sure this was difficult for their family. As for Biffle, I think it is strange but W. S. was in the 5th Texas Partisan Rangers with a Biffle, both joined from Collin Co., TX Barbara Wallace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> > Ok, wait a minute...I know I'm getting old...and I don't remember (talk > about "the remembrances" of people), I don't remember in my studies > hearing > anything about Tennessee being Union...Tennessee was part of the > Confederate > Sates. > > Isn't Clifton in WANYE Co. what does that have to do with Hardin Co? (I > was > referring to Wayne County) ....So your saying these ruffians picked on > people in Wayne and Hardin Co, because they were predominantly > Confederate? > > I would assume there were Union AND Confederate "sympathies" in all > counties. > And I can see where some counties would lean either way and experience > "flack" from the opposite side. > > So, what your saying is while (I can't remember his name) the leader of > the > "Union" group at Clifton reeked havoc on all confederates in surrounding > areas, this Hayes fellow was Confederate from Hardin Co. and reeked havoc > and retaliation on all Union sympathizers in the area? A Tit for Tat > kinda > thing? And probably the man responsible for J. W. Darnell's death? > > But as I understand it, both were equally appallingly criminal in their > behavior? > > Lets recap...Biffle/conferderate spent time in Hardin and Wayne Co reeking > havoc...Bert Hays/confederate reeked havoc...(that's 2 confederates... > > And that "thasher" guy at Clifton/Union reeled havoc? > > Sound like two against one with nobody winning. > > Nena > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Angela, I am so sorry that I did not respond to your efforts. If my husband opens his computer before I open mine, all the emails go to his. He had neck surgery and some days later I found about 15 emails and sent them to my computer. I had not opened them until I saw your message tonight. I appreciate all that you sent and will go over the material tomorrow and get back with you. Thank you so much, Barbara > Sorry Angela I was talking to Barbara Wallace she ask me for some help I > sent her stuff and never heard from her > Jalena > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angela" <gapeachy24@comcast.net> > To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com>

Nena Just to set the record straight. There was no "Collinwood" in that era. It was not founded until around 1912. James Brewer 11 Chadsworth Pl Tullahoma, TN 37388 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:27:49 -0600 > From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> > Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] the Buggar Saga > To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000c01c861b1$94364770$4001a8c0@EMACHINE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello all, > > I bought the book the "Buggar Saga" and have read most of it...sure puts a > new spin on our perceptions of our ancestors! > > No where in this book does it mention J. W. Darnell. I wonder how I would > go about finding out more information about who exactly was part of this > "gang" of Union forces stationed at Collinwood. > > David you were right this was fascinating reading...a must for anyone > who's > ancestors were living in the area at the time. > > Nena > > > > End of TNWAYNE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 > **************************************

Ok, wait a minute...I know I'm getting old...and I don't remember (talk about "the remembrances" of people), I don't remember in my studies hearing anything about Tennessee being Union...Tennessee was part of the Confederate Sates. Isn't Clifton in WANYE Co. what does that have to do with Hardin Co? (I was referring to Wayne County) ....So your saying these ruffians picked on people in Wayne and Hardin Co, because they were predominantly Confederate? I would assume there were Union AND Confederate "sympathies" in all counties. And I can see where some counties would lean either way and experience "flack" from the opposite side. So, what your saying is while (I can't remember his name) the leader of the "Union" group at Clifton reeked havoc on all confederates in surrounding areas, this Hayes fellow was Confederate from Hardin Co. and reeked havoc and retaliation on all Union sympathizers in the area? A Tit for Tat kinda thing? And probably the man responsible for J. W. Darnell's death? But as I understand it, both were equally appallingly criminal in their behavior? Lets recap...Biffle/conferderate spent time in Hardin and Wayne Co reeking havoc...Bert Hays/confederate reeked havoc...(that's 2 confederates... And that "thasher" guy at Clifton/Union reeled havoc? Sound like two against one with nobody winning. Nena

Nena, I think Hardin County voted about 3 to 1 to remain in the Union, but the State didn't, so there went Hardin Co. I don't think that that translates into Hardin County being mostly Union. I think the numbers of solders might be about 3 to 1 in the other direction. There were 6 regiments with 10 companies of Confederates from Hardin County while there were 3 regiments with 6 companies of Union troops raised in Hardin Co. This doesn't give us a number that you can exactly put your finger on. The 2nd Mounted was stationed at Clifton and operated mostly in Middle Tennessee and while at home tended to pick on the Confederate families. Both Biffle and the First Confederate Cavalry spent much time in Hardin and Wayne Co. However, Bert Hays and his company from Wilson's Cavalry (apparently on their own accord) decided to defend the Confederate population in this area. "Buggar Saga" gives Bert credit for killing just about everyone in this area who died as the result of guerilla activities during the war. Burt was No. 1 on the most wanted list of guerillas, but never brought to trial after the war. However, he was bushwhacked in 1866. David > David and Mary Hollis Franks, > > Mary you say most of the county was Union? That is exactly opposite of > what > this book says. "a few Union sympathizers". > >>From what I gather from the book he gives maybe not quite equal > representation of BOTH sides having a "bad" or "gang" renegade regiment > going around raping, pillaging and plundering. > > But that those of Clifton were some of the worst. And he gives a list of > men...and NO my ancestor J.W. wasn't on that list...but surly somewhere > there is a record of him being there... or how else would you have known > that both George and Jordan were there David? I mean I know one was in > co. > B...but that bunch in Clifton was made up of men from several outfits. > > I loaned my book to my mother...but was reading today, near page 125, he > gives reference to another manuscript written by another author that was > unpublished. Linda something or other. Anybody got a clue about this? > > Are there any other books on the subject and the area? > > Nena > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: > 1/28/2008 10:59 AM > >

As you know you can't believe a lot of what you read in The Bugger Saga. Maurice Pruitt was collecting "remembrances" for old people in Wayne and Lawrence County, TN and Lauderdale County, AL. Unfortunately, people's memories had a way of getting shaped by the political climate that existed in the area after the war. As I did the Factory Creek book I encountered many people who boasted that their ancestors had fought for the South during the war, only to discover upon looking at their old photos that their ancestors wore Navy blue. A review of Union Army muster rolls confirmed that every one of these good "rebels" had been "yanks." Almost everybody on Factory Creek and its many branches fought for the Union (there were some few exceptions, especially from the south end of the creek), most rode with the 2nd Tennessee MTD Infantry or with our G-G-Great grandfather Captain Henry Newton Lee in Company A, 10th Tennessee Volunteer Infantry. FYI, John Worthen lived way up at the head of Kilburn Branch near where our G-G-G-Great Grandfather Henry Lee lived. The only thing I have in my book about the Worthens in the war is that Isaiah L. Worthen rode with Captain Lee. Many, perhaps most, of the men in that company came from the head of Factory (and its branches) and the head of Green River.

All of my family fought with Jake Biffle and were very proud that they rode with him. I think there were bad people on both sides. Jean David and Mary Hollis Franks, Mary you say most of the county was Union? That is exactly opposite of what this book says. "a few Union sympathizers". >From what I gather from the book he gives maybe not quite equal representation of BOTH sides having a "bad" or "gang" renegade regiment going around raping, pillaging and plundering. But that those of Clifton were some of the worst. And he gives a list of men...and NO my ancestor J.W. wasn't on that list...but surly somewhere there is a record of him being there... or how else would you have known that both George and Jordan were there David? I mean I know one was in co. B...but that bunch in Clifton was made up of men from several outfits. I loaned my book to my mother...but was reading today, near page 125, he gives reference to another manuscript written by another author that was unpublished. Linda something or other. Anybody got a clue about this? Are there any other books on the subject and the area? Nena **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

David and Mary Hollis Franks, Mary you say most of the county was Union? That is exactly opposite of what this book says. "a few Union sympathizers". >From what I gather from the book he gives maybe not quite equal representation of BOTH sides having a "bad" or "gang" renegade regiment going around raping, pillaging and plundering. But that those of Clifton were some of the worst. And he gives a list of men...and NO my ancestor J.W. wasn't on that list...but surly somewhere there is a record of him being there... or how else would you have known that both George and Jordan were there David? I mean I know one was in co. B...but that bunch in Clifton was made up of men from several outfits. I loaned my book to my mother...but was reading today, near page 125, he gives reference to another manuscript written by another author that was unpublished. Linda something or other. Anybody got a clue about this? Are there any other books on the subject and the area? Nena

Neda, Bill Darnell mentioned "Buggar Saga" when he was writing about his ancestors. He didn't say that Darnell was in "Buggar Saga." However, you will probably find some kin folks in there. Jordan and George Darnell were in the 2nd Mounted Inf. US stationed at Clifton TN. Don't believe every thing you read in "Buggar Saga," then again there might be a little truth to all of it. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Wright" <nena_w@att.net> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] the Buggar Saga > Hello all, > > I bought the book the "Buggar Saga" and have read most of it...sure puts a > new spin on our perceptions of our ancestors! > > No where in this book does it mention J. W. Darnell. I wonder how I would > go about finding out more information about who exactly was part of this > "gang" of Union forces stationed at Collinwood. > > David you were right this was fascinating reading...a must for anyone > who's > ancestors were living in the area at the time. > > Nena > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: > 1/28/2008 10:59 AM > >

I dont know if I have recieved it or not....I am looking for Jenkins or Livingstons that lived in Wayne county ...waynesboro Tn.....in 1869 .....my grandmother was Mary Jenkins...on some papers Mary Jenkins Livingston.....we dont know why she had 2 last names....we cant find anything on her family....all we know is she married William Hesler in 1869 in Wayne County....William was from Ohio....she suppose to have been born in Arkansas.....that is all we know........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jpeck612004" <jpeck612004@xanadoo.com> To: <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Barbara >I sent you some info awhile back and never heard anything from you was it > usefull > Jalena > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message