Can someone please tell me what the counties are that border Wayne Co? I tried to find it on the Wayne Co website, but I couldn't find anything. I see where Wayne Co is located but I can't tell if it borders AL or MS. Thanks bunches! Sandra _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Is anyone connected to the GILLIAMs that were in the 1870 census?: A M GiLLIAM 25 years old and Isaac A GiLLIAM abt 45 years old? Thanks. Sandra _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

I went ahead and uploaded the census statistics page. address is http://www.netease.net/wayne/censusstatistics.htm Edgar

Last night I sent a mesage to the list with some of the decennial census totals for population of Wayne County. I found the information on population totals between 1820 and 2000 and present them here. I'll also be doing a statistical web page later. Wayne County, Tennessee 1820 - 2,459 1830 - 6,013 1840 - 7,705 1850 - 8,170 1860 - 9,115 1870 - 10,209 1880 - 11,301 1890 - 11,471 1900 - 12,936 1910 - 12,062 1920 - 12,877 1930 - 12,134 1940 - 13,638 1950 - 13,864 1960 - 11,908 1970 - 12,365 1980 - 13,946 1990 - 12,935 2000 - 16,842 The statistics for the years 1820-1900 were found at the United States Historical Census Data Browser http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/census/ They have statistics for each census year 1790 - 1990 for every county in every state in the country. These statistics are comprehensive, covering all the statistics gathered by the decennial censuses since 1790. The figures for 1900 - 1990 were found at http://www.census.gov/population/cencounts/tn190090.txt It lists the total population figures for each county in Tennessee. By using the following main Census Bureau page you can get statistics for anywhere in the US and elsewhere. http://www.census.gov I think I will be exploring these pages a lot more in the near future. I've had them bookmarked for sometime, but never took the time to really browse them. Edgar

I vote a big yes to Edgar adding another new page in the "History" section on outlaws and criminals. And now I am on my way to looking at the new photos and new Organizations, Clubs and Events. This is GREAT! Robert A. Crabb

More updates to the page!!!!!! I've gotten on a picture craze. I added a completely new page to the photo album: Wayne County, Tennessee Organizations, Clubs and Events. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwayne/clubs/index.htm Added new photographs to the following: Scenes of Collinwood Scenes of Waynesboro Friends and Family School Days and six new unknown photographs to Who Am I? from the old D. C. Berry photo album. One of these also is an unknown in the McCorkle-Stafford Collection. You will find the new Organizations, Clubs and Events page interesting. One of the pages consists of four photographs of molasses making at D. C. Berry's near Cypress Inn in 1924. I'm think about another new page in the "History" section on outlaws and criminals after I found my copies of several "wanted" and "reward" posters and flyers as well as several letters to Sheriff Jno. L. Greeson around 1900 concerning fugitives from justice. What do ya'll think? Should I post these or let sleeping dogs lie. The updates should be included in the search engine by later today. Edgar

This message is being forwarded to the list by the listowner. If you can add something to the message below or wish to contact the person who wrote the message, reply to <[email protected]>. Please do not reply to the listowner. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:47 PM Subject: E-Mail list > Would you please send me an E-mail list of wayne co. I am researching Dicus > name----Thanks in adv.Did you ever hear of Wiley Dycus my Wife,s Great > G-father >

Here's what I've got on the population of Wayne County. 1820 - 2459 1830 - 6013 1840 - 7705 1850 - don't have figures but census bureau wrong because of missing pages from population schedule. 1860 - don't have figures 1870 - 10,187 1880 - don't have 1890 - don't have 1900 - don't have 1910 - have but can't find 1920 - have but can't find 1930 - have but can't find 1940 - don't have 1950 - have but can't find 1960 - have but can't find 1970 - 12,365 1980 - 13,946 1990 - 13,935 2000 - don't have Wayne County's population has been fairly stable since the 1880's. I seem to remember the 1920 figure was around 12,000. The same for 1930. There was a massive exodus of people from the county to Indiana, Ohio and Michigan in the late 30's and 40's. Some of those families have started to return to Wayne County as they retire, thus boosting the population in 2000. I seem to remember seeing a figure of 15,000+, but can't be certain. I've got it somewhere but it would take a week or two to find it, and it is on-line somewhere. There were also large emigrations of people in the 1850-55 period (taking advantage of the Bounty Land Acts of 1850, 1851 amendment, and 1855.) and again in 1867 and 1876. The last two, however, had to do with the Civil War and the resulting lawlessness in the area. Wayne County in the decade prior to the Civil War was a county on the move. With vast natural resources: timber, iron, other minerals and the leather industry, industrialization was making inroads. The people were excited about the railroad coming through (proposed in 1857 but never built). But the Civil War ended that. Most mills and furnaces were either destroyed or were in disrepair. Money was scarce. And those with capitol for investment prior to the war had lost most if not all of it during the war. It isn't until the 1880's that the area sees a moderate rebound, but no way near the 1850 decade. The big boost came in the late 1890's when Allen's Creek was in operation, and between 1910 and 1920 when the Tennessee Valley Iron and Railroad Company opened its vast reserve of timber and iron lands. The depression of 1919 and the subsequent collapse of 1929 saw an end to any major industrial development in the county at least on the scale seen before where millions were spent. One of the biggest problems with economic development in Wayne County has been transportation. The geographic configuration of the county (where everything north of McCalls/Highland moves north and everything south moves to Florence, AL) resulted in great difficulty in moving goods prior to the development of the diesel and gasoline truck. The railroad to Collinwood in 1913 certainly helped, but getting goods to the rail head was still a major problem, The same can be said for getting goods to Carrollville before 1850 and Clifton between 1850 and 1920 for shipment by river steamer. It could be done, but it was an arduous task and expensive. Thus making goods and produce more expensive from here than from areas where rail and river transportation were readily available and where the local roads were in better condition. And LaRinda, you are correct is your statement that some of the people in this area were downright mean and nasty! We seem to have matured (or become more civilized) in the last 80 years. At least there don't seem to be that many murders and killings as have occured in the past, but I may be uninformed. I don't have the statistics on crime for the area. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Population > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the actual population of Wayne County > when the Census's started? How they grew each census? I have been reading the > Buggar Saga and another book called If the Legends Fade about an Indian Girl > that traveled back from the Indian Nations to Lauderdale County. In both > books it sounds like they were pretty bustling communities. (and a lot of > mean folks too!) > Thanks > LaRinda Middleton > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > >

Edgar, I think that you and Jerry do a great job with the Wayne County site. There aren't very many county sites that are as good as Wayne County, and I appreciate all of the hard work. Keep up the good work. I think that the 1890 Tax List and all of the other things that you mentioned, including the 1870 Census would be great. Are there any divorce records for Wayne County, and where would they be? Also, I have found several families that sold the timber to a company, and several more family members that moved on with the lumber company when they moved on to other areas about 1900 to 1915. Also a great migration to Arkansas and Missouri from about 1890 to1910, so I would like to know if anyone has any ideas as to why they started moving west at that time. I know that these people probably moved in groups with family and friends too, and I have found several of my line in Oregon and Pemiscot County, MO. I also always enjoy seeing the Cemetery listings, and the WWI Veterans Bio's are great. Thanks much, Joyce "Edgar D. Byler, III" wrote: > Added several photographs to the Friends and Family page. > > Added several more photographs of historic homes and buildings to the > Historic Buildings, Homes, Sites and Places page. > > Please let me know what else you'd like to see on the page. There are > several things in the works (and yes I know that the 1870 is still "under > construction"), but I'd like your input on what you would like to see on the > page. > > I think the biographies page is a must. I'm working on one now on my > gg-grandfather, Jesse Downing, who was a Sergeant in Co. G, 10th Tenn. Inf. > USA during the Civil War. It should prove to be interesting. > > I don't have any ancestors who served a full term of service in the > Confederate Army. I've got one who served for several months, then deserted > and joined the Union, but I'm working on bio of him. Lots of "good stuff" > there - reputed killings, robberies, etc. > > I'd like to add some of the surviving tax lists for Wayne County, especially > the 1890 since the federal census for 1890 was destroyed. And I'm also > working on a list of people who worked for the Tennessee Valley Iron and > Railroad Company in 1918. That, too, should be interesting since many of > those men never appeared on a census in Wayne County. They came here to work > between 1912 and 1918 and most of them left when the company went belly-up > in July 1918. > > What else folks???? Let me know and we'll see if we can get it done. > > Edgar > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne

I just wanted to add to the many gratitude's to Ed for his contributions to spreading the genealogy and history of Wayne County. Thank you Ed. Robert A. Crabb

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the actual population of Wayne County when the Census's started? How they grew each census? I have been reading the Buggar Saga and another book called If the Legends Fade about an Indian Girl that traveled back from the Indian Nations to Lauderdale County. In both books it sounds like they were pretty bustling communities. (and a lot of mean folks too!) Thanks LaRinda Middleton

In 1900, Wayne County had 12936 people living there. In 1990, there were 13864 people. Before 1900, I can only find the number of heads of household for 1820-1850. 1820: 245 1830: 923 1840: 499 1850: 2593 Maybe someone else knows why the population dropped between 1830 and 1840. Was there a redrawing of county lines? Lewis County was formed using a part of Wayne County, but that wasn't until 1843. Heather --- [email protected] wrote: > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the actual population > of Wayne County > when the Census's started? How they grew each census? I have > been reading the > Buggar Saga and another book called If the Legends Fade about > an Indian Girl > that traveled back from the Indian Nations to Lauderdale > County. In both > books it sounds like they were pretty bustling communities. > (and a lot of > mean folks too!) > Thanks > LaRinda Middleton > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page > at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

I'd like to see more of the History of the Whitten family especially the older generations. bj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Today's Page Updates Added several photographs to the Friends and Family page. Added several more photographs of historic homes and buildings to the Historic Buildings, Homes, Sites and Places page. Please let me know what else you'd like to see on the page. There are several things in the works (and yes I know that the 1870 is still "under construction"), but I'd like your input on what you would like to see on the page. I think the biographies page is a must. I'm working on one now on my gg-grandfather, Jesse Downing, who was a Sergeant in Co. G, 10th Tenn. Inf. USA during the Civil War. It should prove to be interesting. I don't have any ancestors who served a full term of service in the Confederate Army. I've got one who served for several months, then deserted and joined the Union, but I'm working on bio of him. Lots of "good stuff" there - reputed killings, robberies, etc. I'd like to add some of the surviving tax lists for Wayne County, especially the 1890 since the federal census for 1890 was destroyed. And I'm also working on a list of people who worked for the Tennessee Valley Iron and Railroad Company in 1918. That, too, should be interesting since many of those men never appeared on a census in Wayne County. They came here to work between 1912 and 1918 and most of them left when the company went belly-up in July 1918. What else folks???? Let me know and we'll see if we can get it done. Edgar ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at http://www.netease.net/wayne

Added several photographs to the Friends and Family page. Added several more photographs of historic homes and buildings to the Historic Buildings, Homes, Sites and Places page. Please let me know what else you'd like to see on the page. There are several things in the works (and yes I know that the 1870 is still "under construction"), but I'd like your input on what you would like to see on the page. I think the biographies page is a must. I'm working on one now on my gg-grandfather, Jesse Downing, who was a Sergeant in Co. G, 10th Tenn. Inf. USA during the Civil War. It should prove to be interesting. I don't have any ancestors who served a full term of service in the Confederate Army. I've got one who served for several months, then deserted and joined the Union, but I'm working on bio of him. Lots of "good stuff" there - reputed killings, robberies, etc. I'd like to add some of the surviving tax lists for Wayne County, especially the 1890 since the federal census for 1890 was destroyed. And I'm also working on a list of people who worked for the Tennessee Valley Iron and Railroad Company in 1918. That, too, should be interesting since many of those men never appeared on a census in Wayne County. They came here to work between 1912 and 1918 and most of them left when the company went belly-up in July 1918. What else folks???? Let me know and we'll see if we can get it done. Edgar

Good evening all: The Col. George H. Nixon Camp #214 of Lawrenceburg will be holding its August meeting on Monday, August 26th at 7:00pm in the Lawrence County Public Library. Our program for the evening will be presented by Mr. Joe Davis from the Shiloh National Military Park of Hardin County, Tennessee. The meeting is open to the public and I invite any and all who have interest in history and the Civil War to attend! If you would like more information, please feel free to call on me. Jason Goodrich Lawrenceburg, Tennessee H: (931) 762-8890 or email: [email protected] W: (800) 380-1896 ext. 204 or email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Edgar D. Byler, III [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Confederate soldier bio's LaRinda and anyone else interested: A biography should be just that. It need not deal only with a person's civil war service, although the thrust of our discussion has been on civil war memoirs and information. I've picked up several "stories" about relatives during the Civil War period. Families tend to pass down humorous events, and traumatic events. They are often colored by the person telling or retelling the story, but there are more than often grains of truth in all of them. I realize that we, at 146 years past the event, do not have living individuals with whom we can discuss the events of the war. Yet there are newspaper articles, letters, diaries, service records and loads of other materials which still survive although their lifespan is shrinking. You might check for pension records on an ancestor's compatriots. Sometimes they can provide detailed information about a unit's activities that would not show up in the service records. Just as an police or private investigator would interview a suspect/subject's neighbors, so should the genealogist. Where your ancestor might not have kept many records (or they might have been destroyed), it is possible that a neighbor may have had a diary or been a voluminous letter writer and kept track of all the neighbors. Sometimes a "nosy neighbor" isn't a bad thing! (and some of the diary entries and tidbits in letters can be real eye-openers!!!) Who would you send it to? Well you can send it to me if you want it posted to the Wayne County, TN Genealogy and History Page. Or perhaps Jerry would be open to having them posted to the list - I cannot answer for him on that. But if you want me to post it to the web page, send it to Edgar D. Byler, III at [email protected] You might also consider sending it for publication in the "Wayne County Historian" and you can do that by sending the biography to Allen Berry at [email protected] I'm sure Allen would be interested in using the biographies. If no one has any objections, I'll forward a copy of all bios I receive to Allen. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Confederate soldier bio's > What would a bio consist of? All I really have is the unit they served in. > And, who would we send it to? > Thanks > LaRinda Middleton > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at http://www.netease.net/wayne --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002

Good evening, all. I have not yet provided an introduction of myself as of yet, however this can be attributed to myself not having direct relatives from Wayne County. But, me wife does! I am the Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans Camp in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee and have a great deal of interest in the veterans and history of the Civil War. Although I do have a greater interest in the aspects of what is considered to be "Southern" or Confederate history, I cannot deny interest for Federal veterans. I would be more than willing to help in what small way I can in the form of research. Normally, I travel to the Tennessee State Library and Archives about twice a month to pull service records for those who are interested in joining the Sons of Confederate Veterans. I also work at the International Headquarters of the SCV in Columbia, Tennessee, which houses its own library, albeit small, and has many publications of interest- especially for those soldiers who fought with units from states OTHER than Tennessee. There are complete regimental histories of Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida; a majority of records on Georgia units, as well. One source I highly recommend checking is the early Confederate Veterans magazine which began in the mid-1890s. This is a terrific source because the magazine, just as it is today, was compiled of information submitted by subscribers to the publisher. Many references are made to different events, specific peoples, etc. This was a magazine that was sent to members of the SCV predecessor, the United Confederate Veterans which was an organization similar to that of the VFW. When a veteran passed away, many times an obituary was submitted to the CV magazine. It is a highly overlooked piece of information- especially the many pictures that were published along with the articles. If I may be of service to anyone in their research of veterans for this project, or if you even want information on the Sons of Confederate Veterans, please feel free to call on me. Respectfully, Jason Goodrich, Commander Col. George H. Nixon Camp #214 Lawrenceburg, Tennessee -----Original Message----- From: Edgar D. Byler, III [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNWAYNE] Confederate soldier bio's LaRinda and anyone else interested: A biography should be just that. It need not deal only with a person's civil war service, although the thrust of our discussion has been on civil war memoirs and information. I've picked up several "stories" about relatives during the Civil War period. Families tend to pass down humorous events, and traumatic events. They are often colored by the person telling or retelling the story, but there are more than often grains of truth in all of them. I realize that we, at 146 years past the event, do not have living individuals with whom we can discuss the events of the war. Yet there are newspaper articles, letters, diaries, service records and loads of other materials which still survive although their lifespan is shrinking. You might check for pension records on an ancestor's compatriots. Sometimes they can provide detailed information about a unit's activities that would not show up in the service records. Just as an police or private investigator would interview a suspect/subject's neighbors, so should the genealogist. Where your ancestor might not have kept many records (or they might have been destroyed), it is possible that a neighbor may have had a diary or been a voluminous letter writer and kept track of all the neighbors. Sometimes a "nosy neighbor" isn't a bad thing! (and some of the diary entries and tidbits in letters can be real eye-openers!!!) Who would you send it to? Well you can send it to me if you want it posted to the Wayne County, TN Genealogy and History Page. Or perhaps Jerry would be open to having them posted to the list - I cannot answer for him on that. But if you want me to post it to the web page, send it to Edgar D. Byler, III at [email protected] You might also consider sending it for publication in the "Wayne County Historian" and you can do that by sending the biography to Allen Berry at [email protected] I'm sure Allen would be interested in using the biographies. If no one has any objections, I'll forward a copy of all bios I receive to Allen. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Confederate soldier bio's > What would a bio consist of? All I really have is the unit they served in. > And, who would we send it to? > Thanks > LaRinda Middleton > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at http://www.netease.net/wayne --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002

LaRinda and anyone else interested: A biography should be just that. It need not deal only with a person's civil war service, although the thrust of our discussion has been on civil war memoirs and information. I've picked up several "stories" about relatives during the Civil War period. Families tend to pass down humorous events, and traumatic events. They are often colored by the person telling or retelling the story, but there are more than often grains of truth in all of them. I realize that we, at 146 years past the event, do not have living individuals with whom we can discuss the events of the war. Yet there are newspaper articles, letters, diaries, service records and loads of other materials which still survive although their lifespan is shrinking. You might check for pension records on an ancestor's compatriots. Sometimes they can provide detailed information about a unit's activities that would not show up in the service records. Just as an police or private investigator would interview a suspect/subject's neighbors, so should the genealogist. Where your ancestor might not have kept many records (or they might have been destroyed), it is possible that a neighbor may have had a diary or been a voluminous letter writer and kept track of all the neighbors. Sometimes a "nosy neighbor" isn't a bad thing! (and some of the diary entries and tidbits in letters can be real eye-openers!!!) Who would you send it to? Well you can send it to me if you want it posted to the Wayne County, TN Genealogy and History Page. Or perhaps Jerry would be open to having them posted to the list - I cannot answer for him on that. But if you want me to post it to the web page, send it to Edgar D. Byler, III at [email protected] You might also consider sending it for publication in the "Wayne County Historian" and you can do that by sending the biography to Allen Berry at [email protected] I'm sure Allen would be interested in using the biographies. If no one has any objections, I'll forward a copy of all bios I receive to Allen. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Confederate soldier bio's > What would a bio consist of? All I really have is the unit they served in. > And, who would we send it to? > Thanks > LaRinda Middleton > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > >

I've added two unknown photographs to the Who Am I page. One of these is a dinner or luncheon group of men in 1918. Large group of people and the photograph is not that clear in places. Can you identify anyone? The other unknown has written on it, "Rough Riders of the T.V.I.R.R." It is a picture of three men on horseback out in the wilds of Wayne County in 1918. Lots of additions to the Friends and Family page. Lots more to go, but I've run out of time this weekend. Will have to wait till next weekend for the rest of the additions. And I've added a whole new page: Historic Buildings, Homes, Places and Sites in Wayne County, Tennessee. Just a few pictures posted at present. Lots more to come. And with that I'm done for now. Edgar

What would a bio consist of? All I really have is the unit they served in. And, who would we send it to? Thanks LaRinda Middleton

Thank you Ed for your explanation of what happened to the War Between the States Soldier biographies. I agree with you about there needing to be only one place for Wayne Co. information. I never think to check the Genweb stuff because it just makes more sense to me to go to one place for Wayne Co. data and that's our Wayne County, TN page hosted by you & Jerry. Thank you for all the work you do and I'll be sending you my Confederate soldier bio's as time permits. I hope there will be many others do this also and pretty soon, we'll have a nice story of real folks that were there during the WBTS era. We appreciate your kindness and expertise! Lynda Green, TX Quoting "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]>: > Lynda, > > You're thinking about tahe old Genconnect Boards that were hosted on > Rootsweb. I don't know what happened to them or the information posted > but > sometime between the beginning of 2000 and last fall (2001) they > simply > disappeared. May have something to do with the buyout of Rootsweb by > Ancestry.com. > > > > >