Does anyone have any information that shows a marriage of MARTHA ANN HILL to JOSEPH COOPER. They were married at Threets, Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1845. I need any information on her HILL family. They were buried in the 1890's at Balentine Cemetery, near Cypress Inn, Tennessee. Sincerely, Steve Cooper Cloverdale, Lauderdale County, Alabama New email address: [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/03

Does anyone have any information on the Toler's of Wayne County? John was there prior to 1821 where he surfaced in Williamson County, Tennessee. He was quite young and still a veteran of the War of 1812. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Christine

Can anyone help the lady below with her Barnett family? I've already written her that birth records for Wayne County don't begin until 1908. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, COCHRAN-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: Norma shirk To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:41 AM Subject: Barnett ancestry Jerry, My grandfather was born in tennessee and I think it was is Wayne County. His name was Joseph James Vincent Barnett, born: Nov., 1873. His father was also born in Tennessee. His name was: James Allen Barnett,,..born:1846. He married Mary Ann Dobbs or Dabbs in Wayne county Tennessee Oct 22, 1868. One of these grandfathers was married to a full blooded indian, Cherokee I think, and he was an Irishman. Could you tell me how I would go about getting birth certificates on these two grandfathers? This is as far back as I can go. I do know that one of these grandfathers or the one before was in the group driven to Oklahoma. My grandfather was very unhappy with the conditions up there and loaded his family and belongings on a wagon one night and moved back to Arkansas. My father was killed in a hunting accident when I was eleven years old (1953) and I don't know any of my relatives on my fathers side that I can get any information from. Thank you for any help you can give me. Norma Wahington state

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AA30A8682814BC455971D1FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope it is all right to forward this because it is very important to All Historical Societies. --------------AA30A8682814BC455971D1FB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by danu.ili.net (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h0SHdMN05497 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h0SHZl9W016504; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:35:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:35:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Jan 28 10:35:47 2003 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Carol Montrose" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Old-Cc: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:43:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [OHFranklin] Help Fla. keep it's State Library & Archives Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/11935 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 ----------text cut---------------------> > The other is a general concern for our historical and genealogical heritage. Keep your eyes open for problems. Here in southern Indiana I'm working in an effort to determine what is "in the way of" the proposed I-69 extension, hoping to make sure graveyards and other historical places don't disappear. With all the financial problems of our nation right now, genealogy and history may take a back seat to other concerns to such an extent that there will be no recovery. In that light, I include a message from the folks in Florida. > > The Florida State Genealogical Society board has unanimously approved > joining a coalition to oppose Governor Bush's proposed budget regarding > the dismantling of the Florida State Library and Archives. > The coalition currently consists of the following organizations: > · Florida Historical Society > · Florida Archaeological Council > · Florida Anthropological Society > · Florida Trust for Historic Preservation > · Florida Association of Museums > We are asking for help of all genealogists, historians and researchers > throughout the U.S. If this can happen in our state, it can happen in > any state. Please write, email, or fax the Florida legislators. Make our > legislators aware of this serious error that they are about to commit. > We cannot lose Florida's treasures. 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This message is being forwarded to the list by the listowner. If you can add something to the message below or wish to contact the person who wrote the message, reply to "Pauline Jones" <[email protected]>. Please do not reply to the listowner. ----- Original Message ----- From: p.f.jones To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: Hello Hi, I am Pauline Jones,my great,great ,great grandfather was Daniel C. Walker,I really enjoy the web site you have & i have found a lot of information about him & his family,that i didn't have.Would like to get a copy of his married record if any one knows where & how,of course i don't know when he got married.I would just have to guess.Any information on Daniel & family would be appreciated.Thank you very much. Pauline Jones Chelsea,Ok.

My family migration pattern from TN to TX is as follows: James Hill Casey, b. 1813 in SC had moved to Wayne Co., TN perhaps by 1820 with parents (?not sure who his parents were). He married Jane Turnbow, dau. of Hugh Turnbough/Turnbow in 1832. They had 7 children or so there and in 1851 (probably Dec. 1851) moved to Williamson Co., TX. James Hill Casey was considered a "Pioneer" of Williamson Co., TX (and his photo appears in the courthouse in Georgetown, county seat of that county), but moved late in life to Young Co., TX with a son John Wesley Casey, dying there in 1901, and is buried in Farmer, TX. His son Willis, who I descend from, born 1832 in Wayne Co., TX is buried in Florence, Williamson Co., TX. Most of this is outlined at my webpage at http://www.casey-genealogy.com Thanks, dlc

My relatives that migrated to Tx. from Wayne Co. Tn. James C. Gullick b abt 1781 in NC. migrated to Wayne Co. Tn. He died in Wayne Co. in abt 1858 as this is when his will was dated. He owned a good deal of land on the Rockhouse Creek on the Buffalo River. After his death his son Larkin Stowe Gullick and his widow Jane Gullick were the Administers of the will. They sold the land to a neighbor who only paid of the money down on the land. A few years later one of his son-in-laws,, Anderson Churchwell suied this man for the remainder of the money. I have a copy of the law suit that is diff to read but can make out this. Larkin Stowe with family , mother and two sisters moved to Tx. This does not state the county. They must have moved thru the state of Ark. This mentions the dau Jane A. who m John Voohies was residing in Tx. in 1880. Also that Larkin Stowe's family had moved back to Ark. One dau ,Lucille Kerr m Nathan McCanless had died in May of 1872 in Madisen Co. Ark. Her husband gave a despision on her behalf and mentioned this. In 1881 Nathan F. McCanless was living in the town of Huntsville in Madisen Co. Ark. I do not know if the son Larkin Stowe Gullick was in this Co. or not. I have a little data on the Voorhies in Tx. but nothing on the Larkin S. Gullick or the McCanless families. James Clark Gullick was my third Ggfather. Hid dau Margarett Elinor m Anderson Churchwell in 1844, my gggparents. I live in Tn. and know nothing of the Counties of Tx. and Ark. Grover Pope , Dyer Co. Tn.

Hi Richard, Thanks for adding your data to the chart and for the extra trouble you went to listing John and family in the 1850 Census. You ask if John and William Worthen were brothers. John was William's father but the census taker did not record the correct age for John or we are misreading it because it is not clearly marked. The 1850 Census shows John with his second or third wife (Nancy Hardin; married in late 1830s) and not the mother of William. John is found in the 1840, 1850 and 1860 Wayne County, TN census. William is found in 1860, 1870, 1880 Collin County, TX census and the 1900 Chickasaw Nation, I. T. Census. William died in 1907. Barbara Warthen Wallace [email protected]

the John and Sarah listed in the 1850 Census with William age 22 in it.....is this John a brother of William?..... in answer to your migration question.....my Hollis ancestors were in Wayne County for the 1840 Census....in Stoddard County, Missouri for the 1850 Census.....in Scott County, Arkansas for the 1870 and 1880 Census.....my gf came to Hunt County, Texas with an aunt and uncle early 1890's at about the age of 10..where he doesn't appear in the census until 1910 in Collin County, Texas already married and with a couple of kids, was there also in 1920 Census, my father was born in Melissa in Collin County... .....my gf's father with his second family went to the Indian Territory in the 1880's where they appeared in the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 Okfuskee County, Oklahoma Census..... Richard Hollis [email protected] Tomball, Texas http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/l/Richard-D-Hollis/index.html ?Welcome=1010278829 CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: TN COUNTY: Wayne DIVISION: Civil District 4 REEL NO: M432-899 PAGE NO: 133 REFERENCE: 24 October 1850, 258B(514) ============================================================================ ==================================== LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB ============================================================================ ==================================== 1 13 13 Godwin James T. 35 M Farmer TN 2 13 13 Godwin Sidelia 24 F TN 3 13 13 Godwin George M. 11 M TN X 4 13 13 Godwin James R. 6 M TN X 5 13 13 Godwin Sarrah J. 4 F TN 6 14 14 Bryson Hiram 39 M Farmer TN 7 14 14 Bryson Jemima 33 F TN 8 14 14 Bryson Mary L. 16 F TN X 9 14 14 Bryson Abner D. 12 M TN X 10 15 15 Worthen John 32 M Farmer 500 VA 11 15 15 Worthen Nancy P. 36 F MO 12 15 15 Worthen Sarah M. 19 F TN X 13 15 15 Worthen Susan E. 12 F TN X 14 15 15 Worthen Isaac L. 11 M TN X 15 15 15 Worthen Jeremiah L. 8 F TN X 16 15 15 Worthen James E. 5 M TN 17 15 15 Worthen Nancy M. 3 F TN 18 15 15 Worthen John C. 1 M TN 19 15 16 Worthen William 21 M Farmer TN X 20 15 16 Worthen Sarah Ann 22 F TN X ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Wayne County, TN family Migration Patterns > To the List and list managers, > > I noticed members of another county website, as a group, are organizing > chronological information on their family's migration patterns and > motivations. > I was impressed and thought maybe we could do the same for the Wayne County > list members. > > > If all agree and would find this information helpful perhaps we can help > build on this idea while making new connections to family members. > Barbara Warthen Wallace > > W. S. WARTHEN/WORTHEN: TN to TX in 1855 > Between 1851 and 1855 William S. Warthen/Worthen, in his early twenties, > with Sarah Ann (--- ) and baby left his father's home and by 1855 was paying > taxes in Collin County, TX. He may have stopped in AR first and for whatever > reason moved on to Texas. I don't for a moment believe that the three of them > made that trip without the benefit of other family members or friends from > Wayne County. I don't know what compelled him to go to Texas but it was not > to claim land as he did not purchase land there for several years. I would > guess they arrived via river boat to Jefferson, Texas but don't have a clue. > His father was John Worthen and step mother was Nancy Hardin of Wayne County. > > Wm. S. Warthen and his third wife, Mrs. Letty Wilkins left Collin County in > late 1880s for Grayson County, TX and around 1891 migrated into the Indian > Territory settling near Mannsville. > > I would like to know if members of your family move to Arkansas or Texas > around those dates and do you know why? Did any of them end up in or near > Collin County, Texas? > > As my time permits during the next couple of weeks, I would be willing to > check for your family in the 1860 Collin County, TX Federal Census providing > you know the first and last name of head of household and believe they were > in the county. > > Below is the website for Collin County TX GenWeb Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcolli2/ > > > > > ==== TNWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Wayne County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > >

To the List and list managers, I noticed members of another county website, as a group, are organizing chronological information on their family's migration patterns and motivations. I was impressed and thought maybe we could do the same for the Wayne County list members. If all agree and would find this information helpful perhaps we can help build on this idea while making new connections to family members. Barbara Warthen Wallace W. S. WARTHEN/WORTHEN: TN to TX in 1855 Between 1851 and 1855 William S. Warthen/Worthen, in his early twenties, with Sarah Ann (--- ) and baby left his father's home and by 1855 was paying taxes in Collin County, TX. He may have stopped in AR first and for whatever reason moved on to Texas. I don't for a moment believe that the three of them made that trip without the benefit of other family members or friends from Wayne County. I don't know what compelled him to go to Texas but it was not to claim land as he did not purchase land there for several years. I would guess they arrived via river boat to Jefferson, Texas but don't have a clue. His father was John Worthen and step mother was Nancy Hardin of Wayne County. Wm. S. Warthen and his third wife, Mrs. Letty Wilkins left Collin County in late 1880s for Grayson County, TX and around 1891 migrated into the Indian Territory settling near Mannsville. I would like to know if members of your family move to Arkansas or Texas around those dates and do you know why? Did any of them end up in or near Collin County, Texas? As my time permits during the next couple of weeks, I would be willing to check for your family in the 1860 Collin County, TX Federal Census providing you know the first and last name of head of household and believe they were in the county. Below is the website for Collin County TX GenWeb Genealogy Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcolli2/

Could someone please tell me where I could purchase the book: SOUTHERN KINSMEN by Grace Morrow Bryan Please respond to Barbara Wallace [email protected]

Seeking information on, and contact with, any descendants of William James BAKER and Nancy Clarissa (PITTS) BAKER. My relationships are as indicated. Some of their descendants are as follows: (1) William James BAKER, GG Uncle (22 Aug 1847 - 3 Jul 1908) & Nancy Clarissa PITTS (9 May 1852 - 19 Feb 1940) m. 27 Jan 1870 | (2) Della A. BAKER, 1C2R (8 Mar 1871 - 22 Dec 1872) | (2) Emarintha Isabella BAKER, 1C2R (21 Sep 1873 - 31 Oct 1906) | & Nathan Turnbo DOWDY (30 Oct 1871 - 23 Nov 1956) | m. 9 Oct 1892 | | (3) Elsie Clair DOWDY, 2C1R (8 Dec 1893 - 14 Nov 1998) | | & Charles BAKER (3 Mar 1891 - 17 Jun 1946) | | m. 13 May 1911, Wayne Co., TN | | (3) Elizabeth Kathleen DOWDY, 2C1R (7 Jan 1896 - ) | | & Richard F. GIBSON | | m. 1945, Los Angeles, CA | | (3) William Franklin DOWDY, 2C1R (2 Apr 1898 - Nov 1930) | | & Velma PEERIE | | m. 2 Oct 1924, Corinth, Alcorn Co., MS | | (3) John Edward DOWDY, 2C1R (6 Aug 1900 - 5 Jan 1981) | | & Jonnie Alverda JOHNSON (18 Sep 1903 - 1984) | | m. 10 Jun 1922, Waynesboro, Wayne Co., TN | | (3) Patricia DOWDY*, 2C1R (3 Nov 1902 - ) | | & Edward L. JOHNSON | | (3) Patricia DOWDY*, 2C1R (3 Nov 1902 - ) | | & Glenn DICUS | | (3) Paul DOWDY, 2C1R (8 Oct 1905 - 28 May 1906) | | (3) Mary DOWDY, 2C1R (8 Oct 1905 - 27 Apr 1906) | (2) Martha Ellen BAKER, 1C2R (15 Aug 1876 - 23 Mar 1899) | & William Nathan TURNBO (10 Nov 1868 - 12 Jan 1916) | m. 3 Jan 1895 | | (3) Yokley Elberge TURNBO, 2C1R (13 Feb 1897 - ) | | & Janet Bernice BOULWARE (31 Dec 1904 - ) | | m. 21 Jun 1926 | (2) John Solomon BAKER, 1C2R (22 Aug 1878 - 22 Mar 1952) | & Julia KING (19 Oct 1888 - 18 Oct 1960) | m. 2 May 1920 | | (3) Helen Louise BAKER, 2C1R (16 Feb 1920 - ) | (2) Frank BAKER, 1C2R (20 Jul 1881 - 12 Sep 1885) | (2) Thomas Abraham BAKER, 1C2R (7 Apr 1884 - 25 Dec 1974) | & Lala Pearl RILEY (12 Sep 1901 - 14 Mar 1995) | m. 23 Dec 1922, Wayne Co., TN | | (3) Dorothy Geneva BAKER*, 2C1R (29 Oct 1923 - ) | | (3) Dorothy Geneva BAKER*, 2C1R (29 Oct 1923 - ) | | & Robert Ed McDONALD (19 Dec 1929 - ) | | m. 9 May 1958, Corinth, Alcorn Co., MS | | (3) William J. BAKER, 2C1R (27 Aug 1928 - ) | | (3) Dewitt Brownlo BAKER, 2C1R (6 Sep 1930 - 6 Feb 1980) | | & Myrtle Alice BURNS (19 Mar 1928 - 18 Oct 1988) | | m. 5 Mar 1956, Corinth, Alcorn Co., MS | (2) Mary Rosana BAKER, 1C2R (18 Jul 1886 - 8 May 1981) | & George Albert MORGAN (11 May 1883 - 24 Dec 1950) | m. 27 Oct 1912, Wayne Co., TN | | (3) James Thompson MORGAN*, 2C1R (30 Nov 1913 - 9 Jan 1995) | | & Madge STORY (18 Jul 1912 - 26 Jul 1968) | | m. 11 Aug 1935, Portales, Roosevelt Co., NM | | (3) James Thompson MORGAN*, 2C1R (30 Nov 1913 - 9 Jan 1995) | | & Anita DAVIS (22 Jul 1914 - ) | | m. 9 Jan 1969, Lubbock, Lubbock Co., Texas | | (3) Albert Baker MORGAN, 2C1R (5 Jul 1921 - ) | | & Sue NEECE | | m. 1941 | | (3) Jack McGee MORGAN, 2C1R (15 Jan 1924 - ) | | & Peggy Flynn CUMMINGS (5 Aug 1926 - ) | | m. 31 May 1947, Austin, Travis Co., TX | (2) Dewitt S. BAKER, 1C2R (14 Aug 1891 - 6 Sep 1969) | & Bess HOWARD (26 Jan 1891 - 28 Aug 1961) | m. 31 Aug 1941

I recently came across the following and feel it might be of interest to some of you. It's especially useful for beginners. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, COCHRAN-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc SPELLING DOESN'T COUNT by Donna Przecha Frequently when you ask beginning researchers what surnames they are working on they will say, "Browne - with an e" or "Vaughan - that's an" or "Prichard - without the t." While it may seem that they are being extra careful to get the right family, they may be making a big mistake. When it comes to old documents, spelling doesn't count, especially with names. Instead of narrowing the field of research with exact spelling, it is important to enlarge it as much as possible with every possible spelling. One researcher said she could add five generations onto another researcher's line, but the second person wouldn't accept the information because the name was spelled Browne and her family only used Brown. Prior to Samuel Johnson publishing the first Dictionary of the English Language in 1755, there were no spelling rules. Even today there really are no rules for spelling names. You can spell your name any way you want. With modern records, once you have a social security card (now issued at birth), a birth certificate and a driver's license or passport, it is usually too much trouble to vary the spelling. Records are computerized, can easily be crosschecked and if everything doesn't match exactly, you don't exist! While a person is pretty much committed to the parents' way of spelling the surname, it is easy to see there are even fewer rules nowadays for spelling first names. Sherry may be Sherree, Sheri or even Shayree. Laurie could be Lori, Laurey, Lauree, Laury, Lory, Lorie, Loree, etc. Unusual given names might be spelled phonetically in documents. Given names, then as now, often had nicknames. While Liz or Beth for Elizabeth is easy to understand, in many cases, the nickname used in the 17th century does not stand for the same name today. Polly was a common nickname for Mary. Marguerite might be called Daisy since the former is the French word for the flower. For more information, see Sue Roe's list of nicknames. Also consider nicknames during the research process. As previously mentioned, nowadays people are usually consistent in spelling their surnames. Why weren't our ancestors consistent? There are two big reasons: 1) The ancestor may not have been literate and 2) the record was created by another person. If the ancestor was unable to read and write, he may not have known how to spell his own name at all. Even if he had memorized the spelling, a literate person recording the information may not have asked. Records we use for research are mostly church records, civil records, wills and census records. These were usually written by a non-family member - a clergyman, census enumerator, town or county clerk. The recorders may have thought they knew best how to spell a name and did not even bother to ask. The illiterate farmer would not presume to correct an educated minister. For more information on common variations and why they occurred, see Genealogy.com's Name and Word Spellings. You should write down every possible spelling variation and check each one. This can be time consuming in an alphabetical list (much easier if it is Soundex) but it is essential. The name Truesdell can begin Trus or Trues and end with dale, del, dell or dle - quite a few possibilities. However, one essential marriage record was recorded as Trasdle - and missed because the researcher (yours truly) did not cast a wide enough net! The family, of English origin, lived for a while in Quebec where there are many French families named Truedell. Strangely enough, these two names never seemed to be used interchangeably. However, it is necessary to scan the Truedells in an index looking for any with English given names. You may find in an area two surnames that are very similar but it almost seems that everyone knew they were different and made a special effort to keep them straight in records. Another reason for spelling variations could be an accent when saying the name. It is very difficult to know what type of accent a person had 300 years ago. One name that has two different spellings is Royce and Rice. To American ears this seems very different, but anyone who has watched an English TV program is probably aware that people with heavy regional accents may say "royte" for "right." On the other hand, if you have watched Archie Bunker on TV he routinely says "chice" (rhyming with rice) for "choice." So either spelling, Royce or Rice, might be pronounced either way, depending on the accent. If this can happen with a one syllable English name, think of the possibilities with foreign names. When researchers find letters or wills that they believe were written by their ancestors, they are sometimes dismayed by the spelling and grammar they find - "was borned" in the family Bible is not unusual. Since there were no spelling rules prior to 1755 in England or, 1828 in the U.S. when Noah Webster published the first American dictionary, you should not worry about spelling. Prior to 1755 everyone spelled as they deemed fit. Since English words come from Latin, Greek, Anglo-Saxon, German, Danish, French and a host of other languages, there are many different ways of forming the same sound, depending on which language rules you are following. One scholar might have felt it appeared more learned to use Latin or French roots whereas a more practical person might feel a word should be spelled as it sounded - bot, not bought. (This argument continues to this day with many linguists proposing radical changes in spelling so that words are spelled as they sound. This would make spelling easier for future generations but would create years of confusion for those who learned the old rules.) Even in the 19th century it is obvious from looking at letters and wills that standard spelling still was not widely accepted. Since no spelling rules existed prior to 1755 in England and 1828 in the U.S., expect to find a broad range of spelling and grammar styles. Census, parish and vital records usually contain fairly standard information so spelling of words is not too much of a problem. Some of these records may contain occupations that may be spelled in a variety of ways - joyner or joiner (carpenter). The bigger problem usually is an obsolete occupation or name. There are several Web pages that will help you decipher cordwainer (shoemaker) or husbandman (tenant farmer). Beginners often make two common mistakes when reading handwritten documents. They create spelling errors where none exist because they do not know that some letters used to be written differently. The word we usually read as "ye" as in Ye Olde Shoppe is not a strange, outdated word at all. The letter that appears to be a y is actually a character known as a thorn that stood for the letters "th." "Ye" is actually a very modern "the" using an outdated symbol. In both typeset and handwritten documents, it appeared that words with two esses were spelled fs. (For more information on reading old handwriting see Sabina J. Murray's Deciphering Old Handwriting.) The letter that appears to be an f is actually the accepted way of writing the first s. It was never intended to represent an f. The silent e on the end of almost any word was common. Doubling letters was also popular - "shoppe" being a good example of both. Perhaps the writers felt these extra letters gave the word more substance and somehow made it more important! Familiarize yourself with characters that are no longer used in everyday language. Reading wills can be a genealogist's biggest challenge. They will probably be handwritten so you will have to try to decipher the script. Spelling will be inconsistent with words being spelled differently within the same document. The terms will often be archaic so not only will you not know the correct spelling, you might not know what it is even when spelled correctly. One very helpful publication is A Glossary of Household, Farming and Trade Terms from Probate Inventories by Rosemary Milward (Derbyshire Record Society, Occasional Paper No. 1). While this applies primarily to terms in English wills, many of those terms will be found in American wills. It contains many variations for some of the words. For example, mattress could be mateshess, materes, materessy, matrice, matrysey or ploughs might appear as plows, plogthes, ploes, plawes, plaghes, plowgthes, plose, ployths or plosse. You need to be careful in sounding out words because it would be easy to confuse ploughs in one of the above variations with pillows which could be peylowes, pyllas, pillues or pelowys. Unfortunately, in wills items are often listed with no description and no context to give a hint where or how it was used. While these terms are modern words when spelled one way, you will run across terms that have no modern equivalent. You might wonder what a joynt table or cabinet might be. It simply meant a piece of furniture made by a joiner. A maunde (mande, mawnde) was a wicker basket and a portmantle (portmantue, portmanoe) a trunk, words you might not find in a modern dictionary. When you are working with words you know might be out of date and spelled differently, you must be very careful. If you see "lyckerd butts", you might assume that they are a number of casks (butts) storing alcoholic beverages but it actually refers to the tanning of leather used for soles of shoes.If you assume the "cressett" is a reference to the family crest, you will be disappointed to learn it is a small iron vessel to hold oil to be burned as a torch. While a sake, secke or seike is what it appears - a sack - sacke is the name of dry Spanish white wines imported from early in the 16th century. Noggin or nogging is not a head, but a small drinking vessel. It can also refer to a small quantity of liquor. Hassocks are not footstools but tufts of rushes or coarse grass. When dealing with unfamiliar terms and spellings it is best to seek guidance from an experienced researcher. When dealing with unusual terms and spelling, it might be a good idea to consult someone more experienced in that field to make sure you are not starting down the wrong path that could cause you much wasted time and money. About the Author I began genealogy in 1970 when we were living in Ogden, Utah for a short time. I was immediately hooked when, on my first visit to the local Family History Center, I found my great-grandparents in the 1850 Ohio census. I have been researching ever since on my own family and for others. I soon recognized the value of computer programs for keeping track of the data. I was a founding member of the Computer Genealogy Society of San Diego and editor of the newsletter. I have written a third party manual on ROOTS III and, with Joan Lowrey, authored two guides to genealogy software. Using ROOTS III and WordPerfect, I have written several family history books for others, but have yet to stop researching long enough to complete my own family history!

Just to let every one know that I found great Dist maps on the Wayne Co Tn page. Dortha

Can some one tell me where to find a tws. map of the two counties of Wayne and Hardin for ca 1880s ? Searching the PITTS,PRATER and more in both counties. Thanks dortha

Does any one have any thing on this?? HICKERSON, Earn, 20 June, 1912, M-B, 20 years, single, born and died Wayne Co., Tenn. HICKERSON, Oes, 19 June, 1912, M-B, 21 years, single, born and died Wayne Co., Tenn. [Earn and Oes HICKERSON are listed as having been "shot by Fred Cole."]

Is there a descendant of Homer Eastland on the list? If so, I would like to make contact with that person or persons. Please e-mail me at [email protected] Thanks

The Swaztika is a cross and was a religious symbol pre ww11. The four equal arms of the cross fit well on a round fob. Cathie -----Original Message----- From: bob freemon <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:33 AM Subject: [TNWAYNE] Lay family---swaztika emblem >Is there anyone out there that would know anything watch bobs? >My husband's grand father Franklin M. Lay is pictured with a emblem >hanging from his belt loop that is the emblem of a "swaztika" >When I first saw this I thought the family was German but they are >Irish. >Someone told me that this could have been worn as a good luck charm. >This would be before WW1 and WW11 as the picture was made in or >about 1912. Would anyone rom Wayn County know the answer to this. >My mother in law Franklin's daughter is 93 and she can't remember what >it was about. >I appreciate anything anyone can say about this. >Margaret [email protected] > >______________________________

Margaret, the design is of ancient origin... the form of a cross with equal arms. I would imagine that an encyclopedia would give some better clues, but, below is something copied from a website, and probably more than you ever wanted to know, and with still no definite answer. In 1911/12... not to worry, probably was carried for good luck. The swastika is an ancient symbol. Dating back 3,000 years, the swastika predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh. Approximately 3,000 years ago (1000 BCE), the swastika was commonly used; swastikas have been found on many artifacts such as pottery and coins dating from ancient Troy. During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika could be found in many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names: China - wan England - fylfot Germany - Hakenkreuz Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion India - swastika Though it is not known for exactly how long, Native Americans also had long used the symbol of the swastika. ( ~ SO, since the Wayne County area belonged to the Indians until about 1814/6.... maybe something found in the area... <g>) The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. UNTIL the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and GOOD LUCK. Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II. In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history. By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League. In the beginning of the twentieth century, the swastika was a common symbol of German nationalism and could be found in a multitude of places such as the emblem for the Wandervogel, a German youth movement; on Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels' antisemitic periodical Ostara; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the Thule Society. In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495) On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.

Is there anyone out there that would know anything watch bobs? My husband's grand father Franklin M. Lay is pictured with a emblem hanging from his belt loop that is the emblem of a "swaztika" When I first saw this I thought the family was German but they are Irish. Someone told me that this could have been worn as a good luck charm. This would be before WW1 and WW11 as the picture was made in or about 1912. Would anyone rom Wayn County know the answer to this. My mother in law Franklin's daughter is 93 and she can't remember what it was about. I appreciate anything anyone can say about this. Margaret [email protected]