Hi Janet, Loved your stories of growing up - buttermilk- using Crisco (which I grew up on as well as 'lard' for pie crusts - yummy - Funny the things we remember with such enthusiasm when we grow little older - like 50s and older (like 70s) - We also have all ten of the Foxfire books and periodically get one down to have a few laughs and read 'how they used to do it' - Jan W.