I didn't want to be involved but it's reached a point where I need to speak up. PLEASE leave the list the way it is now. There have been incredible problems on lists that have the automatic reply back to the whole list. Many new members do not realize the settings and everything from health to financial problems and even comments regarding other members become posted by mistake for ETERNITY. Even long time members, mistakenly post something that should not be. I have seen this happen on surname, county and region rootsweb lists. If the information is worthy of the whole list, all participants here are intelligent enough to do such. After all, aren't we all here to help and be helped?

G. Lee Hearl wrote: > Anna, > Everyone on the list dosen't Need to read the mail sent between > individual members on any list. That's an invasion of privacy! I'm obviously not Anna, but the purpose of a "discussion list" is to discuss! There are plenty of genealogy boards to post queries on and start private conversations, but few county/area specific discussion lists for East Tennessee exist. This is the only true discussion list dedicated to Washington County of which I am aware (feel free to point me in the direction of others if you know of them). Email sent to discussion lists, by their very nature are (or should be) for general discussion. Those who wish to converse in private have every right, as well as the control to do so. And if a discussion begins to go way off-course, it's easy enough to politely ask the posters to use private communication to continue their off-topic discussions. > As I have explained, setting the default to send all messages to the > list, makes it difficult for members to send a private message to > another member.. The list is set properly now for best operation. I respectfully disagree - the list is not set properly for best operation when you consider that it is a "discussion" list, not a bulletin board. That's why I brought the subject up - to help facilitate better onlist discussions. The way the lists defaults are set heavily influence how they are used (or not used in this case). Since this list's default is set to reply to the individual, that's what happens in most cases. Many potentially lucrative (information-wise) discussions are quashed simply because most occur off-list. Most of us never see the discussion past the initial query. This is an incredibly underused resource and we're just asking that the defaults be set to encourage active discussion about Washington County. > Why do you want to read other peoples' mail? I admit I don't understand this concern. No one who has commented here (or to me in private support) has suggested that they want to read each other's private mail. You have direct control over what you post and who you allow to see it. If you do not wish to share your information with the rest of us, that's entirely your choice. You can continue to converse with others on the list privately.

Anna, Everyone on the list dosen't Need to read the mail sent between individual members on any list. That's an invasion of privacy! As I have explained, setting the default to send all messages to the list, makes it difficult for members to send a private message to another member.. The list is set properly now for best operation. Why do you want to read other peoples' mail? G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

My questions grew out of my couriousity. I have been receiving the Digest version for a couple of years. I was about to unsubscribe from the list because I never saw any any discussion that pertained to the area of Washington County I was interested in. Then I read the questions about the connection between Urbana, MO and Washington County, TN. Some of the statements associated with that question arroused my couriousity. And seemed to indicate that I did not see all of the discussion that was taking place. I usually send a new email when I am responding to something so that the entire digest is not included again. This is such an email. From my original email to the list I received six individual replies. Only one sender replied to the list also. I have not received the a Digest since to see if that reply was included. Now I understand why I do not see much information exchange on this list. And now I am also wondering if some of the other lists I subscribe to follow the format of this list.

Dear Jerry: Please reconsider making the Washington County email list an opportunity for genealogical discussion and to allow the subscribers to either read all the messages or delete them as they choose. Then, if it gets out-of-hand, as you fear it might, take action to change it back. What can you lose? Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net phone 615-765-535

--WebTV-Mail-18351-381 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Jerry: GREAT! Help us get some SAR members for the Watauga Chapter. More info: www.sar.org Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Opportunities never come to those who wait....they are captured by those who dare to attack". --WebTV-Mail-18351-381 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3301.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.149) by storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:59:03 -0800 Received: from lists8.rootsweb.com (lists8.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.27]) by smtpin-3301.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 688AF100ACE; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists8.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) id k2V2uNFZ027979; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:56:23 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:56:23 -0700 X-Original-Sender: jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 30 19:56:23 2006 Message-ID: <BAY105-DAV1457249EAF80270BB6D89995D60@phx.gbl> X-Originating-IP: [66.82.9.49] X-Originating-Email: [jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com From: "Jerry W. Murphy" <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> Old-To: <hmorris575@att.net>, "TNWASHINGTON-L" <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> References: <032920061637.24222.442AB7CD000ABF4200005E9E2160280748CAC9CA9C079D9D010308@att.net> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2006 02:56:33.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7B6BCE0:01C6546E] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Resent-Message-ID: <VMzY6D.A.70G.XpJLEB@lists8.rootsweb.com> To: TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1014 X-Loop: TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TNWASHIN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNWASHIN-L] Re: Let me see if I understand the discussion on automatic reply! X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive All messages sent to the TNWASHIN list go out to everyone subscribed to it. Jerry W. Murphy jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: <hmorris575@att.net> To: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Let me see if I understand the discussion on automatic reply! >I am understanding that all Emails sent to the Washington County, TN "LIST" >are not included in emails going out to TNWASHIN-L list members nor the >TNWASHIN-D list members. > > Such as this email I am submitting right now will not be broadcast out to > everyone on the list? > > R/Y > Corlee Morris > Washington County TN descendent > > ______________________________ ==== TNWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit Washington County TNGenWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwashin/ Tour Jonesborough TN at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tncjones/ --WebTV-Mail-18351-381--

All messages sent to the TNWASHIN list go out to everyone subscribed to it. Jerry W. Murphy jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: <hmorris575@att.net> To: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Let me see if I understand the discussion on automatic reply! >I am understanding that all Emails sent to the Washington County, TN "LIST" >are not included in emails going out to TNWASHIN-L list members nor the >TNWASHIN-D list members. > > Such as this email I am submitting right now will not be broadcast out to > everyone on the list? > > R/Y > Corlee Morris > Washington County TN descendent > > ______________________________

Bruce, You maybe having difficulty tracking the Robinson/Robertson, Byrd lines as these are known Cherokee lineages. Try doing a GOOGLE search on these surnames with Cherokee in the subject line and see if that helps. They could also be Choctaw or Chickasaw, but try Cherokee first. For example our Hicks line goes back to 1740 VA and he has a full blood Cherokee wife. From this point through out the 1800's the descendants list on census records that they are from TN, when they are actually from VA, AL, TN and GA. Pay particular attention to the time frame and make sure that the state listed had been formed. If in fact they are Native American, then the fun begins, some stay, some are on the Trail of Tears, some "escape" and are found in ILL and IND and others are in TX and ARK. I found very little on the Hicks, until I discovered the Cherokee link. Good Luck. Sandi Simpson

I am understanding that all Emails sent to the Washington County, TN "LIST" are not included in emails going out to TNWASHIN-L list members nor the TNWASHIN-D list members. Such as this email I am submitting right now will not be broadcast out to everyone on the list? R/Y Corlee Morris Washington County TN descendent

You just need to train all the list subscribers to use the "reply to all" button for research type data. If you have something personal, that is not going to be of interest to anyone else, then hit the "reply" button. That is by far the simplest solution for all concerned. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry W. Murphy" <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> To: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: Re: For the list moderator >I don't really like lists set to reply automatically to the list. On those > set to reply automatically that I've been on they get far too many > personal > messages that weren't intended for the list. People don't like typing in > email addresses. As an administrator I know that to be a fact based simply > on the number of replies I receive from individuals replying to messages > I've forwarded to the lists from people who either sent it to the wrong > list > address or were not subscribers. > > Just how difficult is it to click "reply all" instead of "reply" anyway? > > Jerry W. Murphy > jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com > Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ > Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L > BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L > Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: > http://www.netease.net/wayne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anna Bertram" <abertram@heartoftn.net> > To: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:40 AM > Subject: For the list moderator > > >> Linda wrote: >> >> "List moderator, >> Would you consider setting the "reply" to automatically reply to the >> list instead of the individual? This discussion list doesn't have a lot >> of traffic, so I don't think seeing all/most of the replies would be too >> burdensome. Many Washington County families are inter-related anyway, so >> what at first might not seem a "related" (forgive the pun) topic to many >> of us could very well become one quickly." >> >> I also think this is an excellent suggestion! >> >> >> Anna Bertram >> abertram@heartoftn.net >> phone 615-765-535 >> >> >> ______________________________ > > ______________________________

I am researching the TUTT family in eastern TN and would appreciate any listings or records related to anyone of this name, particularly from the late 1700's to the mid-1800's (they are few and far between). Very rare records relate this family to Hawkins Co., but with county boundary changes and physical migrations, they could be anywhere in the eastern part of the state. The name has also been spelled Tut, Toot, Sut, etc., etc. Families that married into this one include Kelly, Robinson (or Robertson) and Byrd. Help!? Bruce E. Robertson brucerobertson@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I am researching the TUTT family in eastern TN and would appreciate any listings or records related to anyone of this name, particularly from the late 1700's to the mid-1800's (they are few and far between). Very rare records relate this family to Hawkins Co., but with county boundary changes and physical migrations, they could be anywhere in the eastern part of the state. The name has also been spelled Tut, Toot, Sut, etc., etc. Families that married into this one include Kelly, Robinson (or Robertson) and Byrd. Help!? Bruce E. Robertson brucerobertson@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I agree - I belong to several groups and have picked up several contacts from general group messages. I do not think the procedure necessary to send a private e-mail is too much of a problem, if that is what is intended. Thanks, Glenn Stroup At 05:07 AM 3/28/2006, Jane Unger wrote: I totally agree with you. On lists, and I subscribe to many, where all messages come back to the list, I often find information on my families that I wasn't specifically looking for - in many cases didn't know I should be looking for - which has helped me greatly >TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com

I totally agree with you. On lists, and I subscribe to many, where all messages come back to the list, I often find information on my families that I wasn't specifically looking for - in many cases didn't know I should be looking for - which has helped me greatly. I get lots of spam since I have had this address for many years and am used to deleting. If the topic isn't of interest, I can just hit the delete key. If people would use appropriate subject lines, those listing the family names, it would be easy for anyone to delete those not of interest. Just my 2 cents. Jane Unger - researching Millhorn, Hodges, Allison, Sherfey and others in Washington and Sullivan Counties ViniL@aol.com wrote: I am in the minority I guess in wanting all postings to be shared. It helps to know other families in the area I am searching and I am often able to help people with their questions because I have a subscription to census records and I do know something about families that I am not related to because of records I have come across while searching for my own. It isn't that hard to delete well labeled postings or even to read a couple of sentences to determine the sense of the content. Too bad--it does make for a pretty slow moving list. V Shaw ==== TNWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit Washington County TNGenWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwashin/ Tour Jonesborough TN at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tncjones/ Hoot Owl Hollow NurseryNew Marshfield OH 45766740-664-2409 http://www.hootowlhollow.com --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.

At 09:21 PM 3/27/2006, Sherry Cook <sherrycook@insightbb.com> wrote: My Lovelace line ties into both the Templin and Erwin lines. Bill Lovelace >Ann (Jobe) Brown wrote: > >>Sherry, >>What are some of your EARLY Washington Co., TN lines. > > >Oh goodness, I'm on the wrong computer so let's see how many I can >remember off the top of my head, LOL. I believe all of these lines were >in Washington County prior to 1800 (or shortly thereafter). Notation >(where I suspect a family first moved to Wash. Co.) is: >Husband surname/Wife surname. > >Brown/Gordon, >Taylor/Wilson, >Templin, >Harris/Crampton, >Miller (2 separate lines), >Kelly, >Bayless/Nodding, >Campbell/Snyder, Jones/Nelson, >Ragan/Harrison, >Bowman/Steele, >Range, >Hoss/Bohne, >Parks/White, (later Unicoi) >Erwin/Tilson, (later Unicoi) >Mauk/Heiser, > >Early Washington/Greene County: >Seaton/Bird, Green/Messer, Mauk, Broyles, > >I'm sure I missed a few. These are the lines that I've traced back to at >least 1780 or so. There may be others (I was supremely lucky that many of >my lines were in TN prior to statehood and that my direct lines stayed in >upper East TN until my parents moved.) > >Happy researching! >Sherry > > >==== TNWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Visit Washington County TNGenWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwashin/ >Tour Jonesborough TN at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tncjones/ >

I am in the minority I guess in wanting all postings to be shared. It helps to know other families in the area I am searching and I am often able to help people with their questions because I have a subscription to census records and I do know something about families that I am not related to because of records I have come across while searching for my own. It isn't that hard to delete well labeled postings or even to read a couple of sentences to determine the sense of the content. Too bad--it does make for a pretty slow moving list. V Shaw

Sherry, Do either your Templin or Broyles line tie into the Stanton/Staunton line from Washington County, TN around 1849? Thanks, Sheila Hutchison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Cook" <sherrycook@insightbb.com> To: <TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:21 PM Subject: [TNWASHIN-L] Re: Early Washington Co., TN > Ann (Jobe) Brown wrote: > >> Sherry, >> What are some of your EARLY Washington Co., TN lines. > > > Oh goodness, I'm on the wrong computer so let's see how many I can > remember off the top of my head, LOL. I believe all of these lines were > in Washington County prior to 1800 (or shortly thereafter). Notation > (where I suspect a family first moved to Wash. Co.) is: > Husband surname/Wife surname. > > Brown/Gordon, > Taylor/Wilson, > Templin, > Harris/Crampton, > Miller (2 separate lines), > Kelly, > Bayless/Nodding, > Campbell/Snyder, Jones/Nelson, > Ragan/Harrison, > Bowman/Steele, > Range, > Hoss/Bohne, > Parks/White, (later Unicoi) > Erwin/Tilson, (later Unicoi) > Mauk/Heiser, > > Early Washington/Greene County: > Seaton/Bird, Green/Messer, Mauk, Broyles, > > I'm sure I missed a few. These are the lines that I've traced back to at > least 1780 or so. There may be others (I was supremely lucky that many of > my lines were in TN prior to statehood and that my direct lines stayed in > upper East TN until my parents moved.) > > Happy researching! > Sherry > > > ==== TNWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit Washington County TNGenWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwashin/ > Tour Jonesborough TN at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tncjones/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/293 - Release Date: 3/26/2006 > >

Ann (Jobe) Brown wrote: > Sherry, > What are some of your EARLY Washington Co., TN lines. Oh goodness, I'm on the wrong computer so let's see how many I can remember off the top of my head, LOL. I believe all of these lines were in Washington County prior to 1800 (or shortly thereafter). Notation (where I suspect a family first moved to Wash. Co.) is: Husband surname/Wife surname. Brown/Gordon, Taylor/Wilson, Templin, Harris/Crampton, Miller (2 separate lines), Kelly, Bayless/Nodding, Campbell/Snyder, Jones/Nelson, Ragan/Harrison, Bowman/Steele, Range, Hoss/Bohne, Parks/White, (later Unicoi) Erwin/Tilson, (later Unicoi) Mauk/Heiser, Early Washington/Greene County: Seaton/Bird, Green/Messer, Mauk, Broyles, I'm sure I missed a few. These are the lines that I've traced back to at least 1780 or so. There may be others (I was supremely lucky that many of my lines were in TN prior to statehood and that my direct lines stayed in upper East TN until my parents moved.) Happy researching! Sherry

Note: It is entirely up to the list Adminstrator as to how the reply default is set, however, setting it so that All messages are returned to the list makes it very difficult to make off-list personal replies because you have to either type or copy and paste the personal address in the new message. This entails going into the properties of the previous message and finding the personal address and copying it. Setting the default to return all messages to the list is in conflict with the way most users mail programs are designed to operate.. Not Good! G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

Interesting. I am the one who made the original request and I, too, am a moderator for multiple discussion lists. And I belong to quite a few more (over 200). Even with that number, we have very little problem with them getting too personal. I find that most people are very respectful of "list rules" and we very rarely have to ask someone to take a topic off list. And since we ask politely, we never have a problem with feelings getting hurt. I guess I'm in the minority here, which is disappointing on a "research" list because I have a feeling that we're missing a lot of potentially good information that is exchanged "off list". Personally, I find it very easy to use my delete key for topics I'm not interested in, or setting my lists to digest mode when they get too active. I would much rather have to use my delete key liberally than miss out on key information that would help me break down one of my "brick walls". I would be grateful if someone could point me to a Washington County or East Tennessee genealogy list that has more active discussions. Best regards, Sherry Linda Crawford wrote: >I am not the one who suggested the moderator set it to "reply to all". I agree with Jerry as I am moderator of a site and it can get to personal. >