Good morning Fred, No, the picture you have does not include Old Philadelphia cemetery. What you have is the Bascum area. What you have circled would be the Bascum cemetery spot. Looking at the bottom of your picture, you need to go down about one half mile. Let me know if this helps. Almetia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Almetia Cunningham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:21 AM Subject: [TNWARREN] Location : : Good morning Fred, : : No, the picture you have does not include Old Philadelphia cemetery. What : you have is the Bascum area. What you have circled would be the Bascum : cemetery spot. Looking at the bottom of your picture, you need to go down : about one half mile. Let me know if this helps. : : Almetia : Almetia et al, OK, lets move south a wee bit. Here is my second attempt. http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/cemeteries/old-philly-1.jpg There is a another loop that could be a cemetery. Is that Old Philadelphia? There is a reason for trying to exactly locate the Warren Cemeteries. Visitors looking for a certain cemetery in Warren County simply may not find it. Back in the early 1980s, I had told an uncle that his grandmother (Matilda [Anderson] Smoot) was buried in Old Philadelphia (or so it was reported in a book). On vacation, he visited Old Philadelphia but could not find the headstone. Why? Well, he was looking in the wrong place. He went to Bascom Cemetery (Vervilla at Bascom Methodist Church). In the early 1990s on my first visit to Tennessee, I visited Old Philadelphia. I was able to get Almetia Cunningham and my cousin Myra "Lib" Chastain to tour guide me through Warren. Almetia took us to Old Philadelphia and there was Matilda's headstone. It occurred to me that finding the right obscure old burying ground could be difficult for tourists. Even the directions in the four cemetery books may not prove sufficient. I am sure that Almetia Cunningham, Martha Holt, and Betty Majors could find the cemeteries again, but what would happen if someone looks for the locations say fifty years from now? Who will be the tour guide? Sure, the large active cemeteries will be easily findable, but what about the little obscure cemeteries? Even the USGS 7.5 series maps do not identify all the old cemeteries. They even contain small errors (usually spelling, i.e "Higgenbottom" when it should be "Higginbotham"). Last year, Betty Majors gave me permission to use the cemetery lists and locations from the books to create a cemetery locator of sorts. Once I am *sure* of the exact location of a cemetery, I can create a map using clips from USGS 7.5 series maps and also include the Latitude/Longitude (Degrees, minutes, seconds). We have started a Cemetery Locator page (under construction of course). Ladye Jane Hunter is working on the project with me and she is preparing some pages as I write. Here is the start of our project: http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/cemeteries/ If any of you have a Warren cemetery that is in need of locating, just post to the list. I will put it to the top of my "to do" list. Please be aware that we have no intention to include the gravestone readings and annotations from the books, those items are under copyright. Additionally, I am aware of the vast amount of work done by Almetia, Martha, and Betty, the miseries Betty encountered dealing with ruthless publishers, and the total lack of profit they receive from the books. I doubt they even received enough to pay for their first month gasoline bills while doing the readings. The book information is on the WCGA Book Mart page. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tn/county/warren/bookmart.html Fred Smoot

This is Old Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Location ----- Original Message ----- From: "Almetia Cunningham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:21 AM Subject: [TNWARREN] Location : : Good morning Fred, : : No, the picture you have does not include Old Philadelphia cemetery. What : you have is the Bascum area. What you have circled would be the Bascum : cemetery spot. Looking at the bottom of your picture, you need to go down : about one half mile. Let me know if this helps. : : Almetia : Almetia et al, OK, lets move south a wee bit. Here is my second attempt. http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/cemeteries/old-philly-1.jpg There is a another loop that could be a cemetery. Is that Old Philadelphia? There is a reason for trying to exactly locate the Warren Cemeteries. Visitors looking for a certain cemetery in Warren County simply may not find it. Back in the early 1980s, I had told an uncle that his grandmother (Matilda [Anderson] Smoot) was buried in Old Philadelphia (or so it was reported in a book). On vacation, he visited Old Philadelphia but could not find the headstone. Why? Well, he was looking in the wrong place. He went to Bascom Cemetery (Vervilla at Bascom Methodist Church). In the early 1990s on my first visit to Tennessee, I visited Old Philadelphia. I was able to get Almetia Cunningham and my cousin Myra "Lib" Chastain to tour guide me through Warren. Almetia took us to Old Philadelphia and there was Matilda's headstone. It occurred to me that finding the right obscure old burying ground could be difficult for tourists. Even the directions in the four cemetery books may not prove sufficient. I am sure that Almetia Cunningham, Martha Holt, and Betty Majors could find the cemeteries again, but what would happen if someone looks for the locations say fifty years from now? Who will be the tour guide? Sure, the large active cemeteries will be easily findable, but what about the little obscure cemeteries? Even the USGS 7.5 series maps do not identify all the old cemeteries. They even contain small errors (usually spelling, i.e "Higgenbottom" when it should be "Higginbotham"). Last year, Betty Majors gave me permission to use the cemetery lists and locations from the books to create a cemetery locator of sorts. Once I am *sure* of the exact location of a cemetery, I can create a map using clips from USGS 7.5 series maps and also include the Latitude/Longitude (Degrees, minutes, seconds). We have started a Cemetery Locator page (under construction of course). Ladye Jane Hunter is working on the project with me and she is preparing some pages as I write. Here is the start of our project: http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/cemeteries/ If any of you have a Warren cemetery that is in need of locating, just post to the list. I will put it to the top of my "to do" list. Please be aware that we have no intention to include the gravestone readings and annotations from the books, those items are under copyright. Additionally, I am aware of the vast amount of work done by Almetia, Martha, and Betty, the miseries Betty encountered dealing with ruthless publishers, and the total lack of profit they receive from the books. I doubt they even received enough to pay for their first month gasoline bills while doing the readings. The book information is on the WCGA Book Mart page. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tn/county/warren/bookmart.html Fred Smoot ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. No commercial activities are allowed on this list. Please see full list rules here: http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237