Carolyn, My husband is a Bates descendant: Mary Elizabeth Bates (daughter of Andrew E. Bates) married Pleasant Monroe Whitlock 28 Dec 1868 in Warren Co TN. Mary (Bates) Whitlock is my husband's great grandmother. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > Betty, THANK YOU so much. I told my husband yesterday, that something just > did not make sense about the Phillip family except that Abigail did have a > daughter Mariah E. which could stand for Elizabeth. Abigail living in the > Broomfield Ridley BATES household makes more sense to me too. > > Are you searching this line? > > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Whitlocks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > Hello, > > A number of years ago I read the 1870 Warren Co TN microfilm, and hand > > copied those enumerations that pertained to the lines I'm researching. In > > noticing the listing below that you have for Abigail Bates in household of > > Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips, I took a second look at the census. > > > > The listing as I copied it from microfilm is: > > Bloomfield BATES 37 > > Mary E. 25 > > Robt E. 3 > > Alice A. 2 > > Benj. H. 1/12 > > Abbigal BATES 71 Pennsylvania > > Wm. MOLEY[?] 12 > > > > In looking at the printed census book, the names are indeed: > > Jonathan PHILLIPS 34 > > Elizabeth 30 > > Robert 3 > > Alice 2 > > Benjamin 1/12 > > Abigail BATES 71 > > William MOLEY 12 > > > > I don't know if I made a mistake, or the printed book is in error, but it > > makes more sense to me that Abigail would be living with her son, > Bloomfield > > Ridley Bates, rather than a Phillips family. > > > > Betty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:29 AM > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > Not allot. Recently and only after a kind soul, Christy, did a cemetery > > > lookup for me and said that Benjamin BATES wife, Abigail's last name was > > > listed as Holcomb, did I know. According to most information available > > she > > > was born in VT. Some of her children, Elisha b abt 1821, Norman b 1822, > > > Almond b.1831, Williston b. 1834 and perhaps Louisa were born in PA. > The > > > rest of the children, Broomfield Ridley, Lucy, Mariah, Martha Jane & > > Juliet > > > were born in Warren Co. TN. By the way, her whole name is Priscilla > > Abigail > > > b 1802. I don't know where in Vt. > > > > > > Benjamin and Abigail (Abigal) were listed in the 1840 Warren Co. census. > > The > > > 1840 index says Wilson Co. but the actually record is recorded in Warren > > Co. > > > She was listed as head of household in 1850, 1860. In 1870, she is > listed > > > as living in the household of Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips. > > > > > > I ask a male BATES cousin to participate in the BATES DNA study so I am > > > hoping at some point to be able to find the birth locations to help > > further > > > search. > > > > > > I would also like to know if anyone has any information on Abigail's > > > daughter Louisa. Apparently she married a Dr. Koger and moved to Grove, > > GA. > > > In 1907, she was a widow living in Grove. Wish I could find out even > > where > > > Grove, GA is or was. > > > > > > Any suggestions are help appreciated. > > > > > > Carolyn Bates Krodell > > > Fayetteville, AR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:37 PM > > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Re: TNWARREN-D Digest V03 #28 > > > > > > > > > > Carolyn: > > > > What do you know about your Abigail? I am searching the Holcomb > family > > of > > > > Warren county too. The farthest I got is with Jeptha Holcombe & his > > wife > > > > Martha Newby Holcombe. I am searching for Jeptha's parents. > > > > Carol Walker Frankowski > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > Please see full list rules here: > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Do you know the parents of Andrew E. Bates? ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Whitlocks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > Carolyn, > My husband is a Bates descendant: Mary Elizabeth Bates (daughter of Andrew > E. Bates) married Pleasant Monroe Whitlock 28 Dec 1868 in Warren Co TN. > Mary (Bates) Whitlock is my husband's great grandmother. > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > Betty, THANK YOU so much. I told my husband yesterday, that something > just > > did not make sense about the Phillip family except that Abigail did have a > > daughter Mariah E. which could stand for Elizabeth. Abigail living in > the > > Broomfield Ridley BATES household makes more sense to me too. > > > > Are you searching this line? > > > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Whitlocks" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > Hello, > > > A number of years ago I read the 1870 Warren Co TN microfilm, and hand > > > copied those enumerations that pertained to the lines I'm researching. > In > > > noticing the listing below that you have for Abigail Bates in household > of > > > Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips, I took a second look at the census. > > > > > > The listing as I copied it from microfilm is: > > > Bloomfield BATES 37 > > > Mary E. 25 > > > Robt E. 3 > > > Alice A. 2 > > > Benj. H. 1/12 > > > Abbigal BATES 71 Pennsylvania > > > Wm. MOLEY[?] 12 > > > > > > In looking at the printed census book, the names are indeed: > > > Jonathan PHILLIPS 34 > > > Elizabeth 30 > > > Robert 3 > > > Alice 2 > > > Benjamin 1/12 > > > Abigail BATES 71 > > > William MOLEY 12 > > > > > > I don't know if I made a mistake, or the printed book is in error, but > it > > > makes more sense to me that Abigail would be living with her son, > > Bloomfield > > > Ridley Bates, rather than a Phillips family. > > > > > > Betty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:29 AM > > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > > > > Not allot. Recently and only after a kind soul, Christy, did a > cemetery > > > > lookup for me and said that Benjamin BATES wife, Abigail's last name > was > > > > listed as Holcomb, did I know. According to most information > available > > > she > > > > was born in VT. Some of her children, Elisha b abt 1821, Norman b > 1822, > > > > Almond b.1831, Williston b. 1834 and perhaps Louisa were born in PA. > > The > > > > rest of the children, Broomfield Ridley, Lucy, Mariah, Martha Jane & > > > Juliet > > > > were born in Warren Co. TN. By the way, her whole name is Priscilla > > > Abigail > > > > b 1802. I don't know where in Vt. > > > > > > > > Benjamin and Abigail (Abigal) were listed in the 1840 Warren Co. > census. > > > The > > > > 1840 index says Wilson Co. but the actually record is recorded in > Warren > > > Co. > > > > She was listed as head of household in 1850, 1860. In 1870, she is > > listed > > > > as living in the household of Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips. > > > > > > > > I ask a male BATES cousin to participate in the BATES DNA study so I > am > > > > hoping at some point to be able to find the birth locations to help > > > further > > > > search. > > > > > > > > I would also like to know if anyone has any information on Abigail's > > > > daughter Louisa. Apparently she married a Dr. Koger and moved to > Grove, > > > GA. > > > > In 1907, she was a widow living in Grove. Wish I could find out even > > > where > > > > Grove, GA is or was. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are help appreciated. > > > > > > > > Carolyn Bates Krodell > > > > Fayetteville, AR > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:37 PM > > > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Re: TNWARREN-D Digest V03 #28 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carolyn: > > > > > What do you know about your Abigail? I am searching the Holcomb > > family > > > of > > > > > Warren county too. The farthest I got is with Jeptha Holcombe & his > > > wife > > > > > Martha Newby Holcombe. I am searching for Jeptha's parents. > > > > > Carol Walker Frankowski > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > Please see full list rules here: > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Carolyn, I can't prove the parents of Andrew E. Bates, but suspect it could be Alexander and Anne(?). Any ideas? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > Do you know the parents of Andrew E. Bates? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Whitlocks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > Carolyn, > > My husband is a Bates descendant: Mary Elizabeth Bates (daughter of > Andrew > > E. Bates) married Pleasant Monroe Whitlock 28 Dec 1868 in Warren Co TN. > > Mary (Bates) Whitlock is my husband's great grandmother. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > Betty, THANK YOU so much. I told my husband yesterday, that something > > just > > > did not make sense about the Phillip family except that Abigail did have > a > > > daughter Mariah E. which could stand for Elizabeth. Abigail living in > > the > > > Broomfield Ridley BATES household makes more sense to me too. > > > > > > Are you searching this line? > > > > > > Carolyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "The Whitlocks" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > A number of years ago I read the 1870 Warren Co TN microfilm, and hand > > > > copied those enumerations that pertained to the lines I'm researching. > > In > > > > noticing the listing below that you have for Abigail Bates in > household > > of > > > > Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips, I took a second look at the census. > > > > > > > > The listing as I copied it from microfilm is: > > > > Bloomfield BATES 37 > > > > Mary E. 25 > > > > Robt E. 3 > > > > Alice A. 2 > > > > Benj. H. 1/12 > > > > Abbigal BATES 71 Pennsylvania > > > > Wm. MOLEY[?] 12 > > > > > > > > In looking at the printed census book, the names are indeed: > > > > Jonathan PHILLIPS 34 > > > > Elizabeth 30 > > > > Robert 3 > > > > Alice 2 > > > > Benjamin 1/12 > > > > Abigail BATES 71 > > > > William MOLEY 12 > > > > > > > > I don't know if I made a mistake, or the printed book is in error, but > > it > > > > makes more sense to me that Abigail would be living with her son, > > > Bloomfield > > > > Ridley Bates, rather than a Phillips family. > > > > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Carolyn Krodell" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:29 AM > > > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Abigail (Holcomb) BATES & Louisa Koger > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not allot. Recently and only after a kind soul, Christy, did a > > cemetery > > > > > lookup for me and said that Benjamin BATES wife, Abigail's last name > > was > > > > > listed as Holcomb, did I know. According to most information > > available > > > > she > > > > > was born in VT. Some of her children, Elisha b abt 1821, Norman b > > 1822, > > > > > Almond b.1831, Williston b. 1834 and perhaps Louisa were born in PA. > > > The > > > > > rest of the children, Broomfield Ridley, Lucy, Mariah, Martha Jane & > > > > Juliet > > > > > were born in Warren Co. TN. By the way, her whole name is Priscilla > > > > Abigail > > > > > b 1802. I don't know where in Vt. > > > > > > > > > > Benjamin and Abigail (Abigal) were listed in the 1840 Warren Co. > > census. > > > > The > > > > > 1840 index says Wilson Co. but the actually record is recorded in > > Warren > > > > Co. > > > > > She was listed as head of household in 1850, 1860. In 1870, she is > > > listed > > > > > as living in the household of Jonathan and Elizabeth Phillips. > > > > > > > > > > I ask a male BATES cousin to participate in the BATES DNA study so I > > am > > > > > hoping at some point to be able to find the birth locations to help > > > > further > > > > > search. > > > > > > > > > > I would also like to know if anyone has any information on Abigail's > > > > > daughter Louisa. Apparently she married a Dr. Koger and moved to > > Grove, > > > > GA. > > > > > In 1907, she was a widow living in Grove. Wish I could find out > even > > > > where > > > > > Grove, GA is or was. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are help appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Carolyn Bates Krodell > > > > > Fayetteville, AR > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:37 PM > > > > > Subject: [TNWARREN] Re: TNWARREN-D Digest V03 #28 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carolyn: > > > > > > What do you know about your Abigail? I am searching the Holcomb > > > family > > > > of > > > > > > Warren county too. The farthest I got is with Jeptha Holcombe & > his > > > > wife > > > > > > Martha Newby Holcombe. I am searching for Jeptha's parents. > > > > > > Carol Walker Frankowski > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > > Please see full list rules here: > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > > Please see full list rules here: > > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >