Survey from microfilm. RG50 Roll 28, first book on the roll, page 267. Abstract: 1st District Tavenor Martin, 14 Jul 1814, 5 acres, Warren County Hurricane Creek, above Isaac Blantons Entry. John Blanton, Tavenor Blanton } SCC **** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Vance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Edmund League : Thanks for the info. Fred : : The chain carrier was probably Tavner Martin, Edmund's son-in-law. Tavner was recorded next door to Edmund in the 1820 census. : : Paul R.L. Vance, g-g-g-grandson of Edmund League : ----- Original Message ----- : From: Fred Smoot : Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:45 AM : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Edmund League : : This from TSLA microfilm, RG50, Roll 26, p 552 (near the very end of the : roll). : : West Tennessee First District : ------------------------------------ : By Virtue of an Entry No. 3857 dated September 2nd. 1809 founded on a Military : Warrant No. 3913 for 640 Acres I have surveyed for Edmund League assignee of : Joshua Hadley of William Winewrights heirs Seventy acres of land lying in : Warren County on the head waters of Holmes Creek a branch of the Caney fork : river Beginning on a Cheery tree & white oak running thence East one hundred : and twenty poles to a Chestnut and white oak thence South ninty three & half : poles to a Post Oak thence West one hundred and twenty poles to a black Jack : saplin, thence North Ninety three & half poles to the beginning. December 14th : 1810 : John Boon } S.C.C. Patrick MacEachern D.S. : Tavener Maclin } Retd. March 12th 1811 : : ************************* : Comments: : 1.) I would place the tract north of Smithville in DeKalb county. : 2.) Edmund League probably purchased the rights to seventy acres from Joshua : Hadley. : 3.) Joshua Hadley may have been a heir of William Winewright *or* he may have : purchased the warrant. : 4.) S.C.C. = Sworn Chain Carrier(s) : 5.) D.S. = Deputy Surveyor : 6.) Sidebar on survey says: "Plat &c. taken out July 19th 1811 by Joshua : Hadly." : 7.) Winewright may have been a misspelling of Wainwright. : 8.) West Tennessee later became Middle Tennessee.

I don't know what year that she was asked. I wish I did. I am sorry. Christy

Try this page: Tennessee Land Terminology http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/terms.htm Fred Smoot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Edmund League : Paul, : I read with interest the text of the old records you submitted. I have : several relating to our folks in Warren County, and I've always wondered : about the "poles." : : Could you give us a little lesson in this term, please. : : Nancy in MO : : : ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== : This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. : It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical : Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. : No commercial activities are allowed on this list. : Please see full list rules here: : http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 :

This would have been for the late 1800's or early 1900's that she would have denied them. Would there been any kind of record that would show that they did ask her? I yes then what do I need to do to find it and try to prove that my great grandmother was a cherokee indian? Christy

My great grandmother was asked to move to the reservation but of course denied them. Could someone tell me where the reservation is? Christy

At 01:18 PM 10/21/02 -0400, you wrote: >My great grandmother was asked to move to the reservation but of course >denied them. Could someone tell me where the reservation is? Christy In 1830 Congress passed the Indian Removal Act (Pres Andrew Jackson's effort) which was to force Native Americans to move west of the Mississippi. The Trail of Tears I think began around 1838. There is an Eastern Band of Cherokee that stayed East of the Mississippi but I believe they were forced onto the reservation and those that signed to remove went to the Oklahoma territory. There are a number of great sites out there that go into detail. I do not have any proven Native American lines but I suspect that there may be some if not in my own lines in collateral lines. I fixed myself a page of links I thought were pretty useful if you wanna view that its located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rmbeckman/na.html Hope this helps --MarieB-)

Thank you to everyone who wrote to me about the cemetery records. I appreciate the things I have learned. Marla Goodrich

Thanks for the info. Fred The chain carrier was probably Tavner Martin, Edmund's son-in-law. Tavner was recorded next door to Edmund in the 1820 census. Paul R.L. Vance, g-g-g-grandson of Edmund League ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Smoot Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Edmund League This from TSLA microfilm, RG50, Roll 26, p 552 (near the very end of the roll). West Tennessee First District ------------------------------------ By Virtue of an Entry No. 3857 dated September 2nd. 1809 founded on a Military Warrant No. 3913 for 640 Acres I have surveyed for Edmund League assignee of Joshua Hadley of William Winewrights heirs Seventy acres of land lying in Warren County on the head waters of Holmes Creek a branch of the Caney fork river Beginning on a Cheery tree & white oak running thence East one hundred and twenty poles to a Chestnut and white oak thence South ninty three & half poles to a Post Oak thence West one hundred and twenty poles to a black Jack saplin, thence North Ninety three & half poles to the beginning. December 14th 1810 John Boon } S.C.C. Patrick MacEachern D.S. Tavener Maclin } Retd. March 12th 1811 ************************* Comments: 1.) I would place the tract north of Smithville in DeKalb county. 2.) Edmund League probably purchased the rights to seventy acres from Joshua Hadley. 3.) Joshua Hadley may have been a heir of William Winewright *or* he may have purchased the warrant. 4.) S.C.C. = Sworn Chain Carrier(s) 5.) D.S. = Deputy Surveyor 6.) Sidebar on survey says: "Plat &c. taken out July 19th 1811 by Joshua Hadly." 7.) Winewright may have been a misspelling of Wainwright. 8.) West Tennessee later became Middle Tennessee. ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. No commercial activities are allowed on this list. Please see full list rules here: http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks for the information. Marla Goodrich

Cherokee queries may be posted to this Board (which is very active): http://www.tngenweb.org/tnfirst/webbbs/cheroqueries/index.cgi

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: [TNWARREN] Indian Reservation : My great grandmother was asked to move to the reservation but of course : denied them. Could someone tell me where the reservation is? Christy : Do you have a year date? Fred Smoot

This from TSLA microfilm, RG50, Roll 26, p 552 (near the very end of the roll). West Tennessee First District ------------------------------------ By Virtue of an Entry No. 3857 dated September 2nd. 1809 founded on a Military Warrant No. 3913 for 640 Acres I have surveyed for Edmund League assignee of Joshua Hadley of William Winewrights heirs Seventy acres of land lying in Warren County on the head waters of Holmes Creek a branch of the Caney fork river Beginning on a Cheery tree & white oak running thence East one hundred and twenty poles to a Chestnut and white oak thence South ninty three & half poles to a Post Oak thence West one hundred and twenty poles to a black Jack saplin, thence North Ninety three & half poles to the beginning. December 14th 1810 John Boon } S.C.C. Patrick MacEachern D.S. Tavener Maclin } Retd. March 12th 1811 ************************* Comments: 1.) I would place the tract north of Smithville in DeKalb county. 2.) Edmund League probably purchased the rights to seventy acres from Joshua Hadley. 3.) Joshua Hadley may have been a heir of William Winewright *or* he may have purchased the warrant. 4.) S.C.C. = Sworn Chain Carrier(s) 5.) D.S. = Deputy Surveyor 6.) Sidebar on survey says: "Plat &c. taken out July 19th 1811 by Joshua Hadly." 7.) Winewright may have been a misspelling of Wainwright. 8.) West Tennessee later became Middle Tennessee.

Marla, Do you have any Information on a Marion Jackson WEBB or a Marion Abner WEBB?? Thanks, Mike Clemmons -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 10:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TNWARREN] cemetery records I read in four volumes of cemetery records of Warren Co. and neglected to write down the compiler's name. There is much information including who parents of deceased are. Does anyone know how the information as to parents was obtained for these volumes? One entry was for Byars Webb b. 1806 and listed his father as Elisha Webb. As a descendant of Elisha I would love to know from what source this is found as I am having great difficulty locating information on Elisha Webb b. 1767 in NC, died after 1850 in probably Warren Co. Thanks to whoever did these volumes. They are great! Marla Goodrich Connected from Warren Co. to the following surnames. Webb, Jones, Bratcher, Roberts, Hughes, Hicks, Marsh, Ellis, Rowland, Stembridge, ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. No commercial activities are allowed on this list. Please see full list rules here: http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: [TNWARREN] EARLY LAND PURCHASES : When were the earliest land purchases in Warren County, and are these records : available? I am seeking any JOHNSON man getting land in Warren Co. prior to : @1820. What are my options on this one? Also, are there any records, at : all, of early Rev War Vet residents of Warren County? This for the same time : frame: prior to 1820. : : Thank you, : : Judy : Judy, First, what became Warren County was Cherokee land until late 1805, then White County was formed in 1806. Warren County was formed from White County in 1807 and Warren County was surveyed. Warren county fell into three Surveyors' Districts (1st, 2nd, and 3rd). Although a very few North Carolina grants were issued prior to the late 1805 treaty that relinquished Cherokee claims to the area, there were a few that touched future Warren. After Warren was surveyed, the State of Tennesse allowed enrties to be made for land there. If all was OK with the entry, a survey for the individual tract would be made. If all was OK with survey and when the the applicant meet Tennessee's requirements (like paying all fees) the state would issue a grant, or what is also called perfect title. It could be a number of years between entry and grant. Most entry and survey records are extant, however some 3rd District survey records appear to be lost. It appears that all early grants are extant. Only after the grant was issued could the land could be sold, gifted, or passed on through wills. If it was sold, there would be a deed. The deed may not have been recorded. Some early Warren deed recordings have been lost (lost pages from the deed recording book). One small book on Warren's early deeds has been published - (by Betty Majors). The original deed book that would follow what is published is almost unreadable. Microfilm is the best way to access the deeds. Re: RevWar Vets. The 1840 US Federal Census lists Revolutionary War pensioners and their ages. WCGA may have published something on this, but since I gave my copies to a genealogical library, I can't do a lookup. Fred Smoot

Hello, As I don't have my volumes at hand in which they tell of their sources, off the top of my head, some sources used for the cemetery books were census records, marriage records, obituaries, funeral home records, Thomas Barnes Papers, Blanche Bentley Papers, books by Warren countians, Bible records, microfilmed newspapers, Goodspeed's Histories, Acklen, Edithe Whitely, and various published family genealogies. You can rest assured that there is nothing in the books that there was not a source for it. As with any such endeavor, errors will be made and more enlightening information will be found, but at the time, they left nothing to chance. They would be grateful for any corrections or additions. Marla Goodrich, I would say that the Webb information came from Thomas G. Webb, 835 College Street, Smithville, TN 37166. He has just finished a Webb Genealogy which is already sold out and has researched him ancestors since he was a child. He definitely helped with Vol. #4. He can probably help you. In my files, I have as a source for some 1700 and 1800 Webbs, Kenneth Robertson, <[email protected]>. I believe that his information came from Thomas G. Webb. Patrisha Goodwin, off the top of my head, I know there is a burial in Vol. 4 in 1813 and another in 1999. Since the first book was published in 1993, the latest burial in that book could be possibly in 1993. I don't know the earliest burial in that book, nor the years covered in volumes #2 and #3. Martha Bouldin Holt and Almetia Dunn Cunningham can both be reached at WCGA, P.O. Box 411, McMinnville, TN 37111-0411. Ladye Jane Hunter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Smoot" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] cemetery records > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Beckman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] cemetery records > > > : At 11:07 PM 10/20/02 -0400, you wrote: > : > : >I read in four volumes of cemetery records of Warren Co. and neglected to > : >write down the compiler's name. > : > : That sounds like Warren County, TN Cemetery Books, Annotated, Volumes 1, 2, > : 3, and 4. > : By Martha Bouldin Holt and Almetia Dunn Cunningham. Edited by Betty Moore > : Majors > : > : >There is much information including who > : >parents of deceased are. Does anyone know how the information as to > parents > : >was obtained for these volumes? > : > : I would also like to know where the additional info came from. > : > : Thanks > : --MarieB-) > : > > The Warren County Cemetery Books were published between 1993 and 1999. Almetia > Dunn Cunningham, Martha Bouldin Holt, and Betty Moore Majors would record the > cemeteries and Betty put it all in to book form. Almetia became ill during the > recording for the last book so Marha and Betty finished the Book 4 recording. > Betty became the major care giver for her husband during work on Book 4. It is > a wonder that Betty got the series finished. All three are dear ladies who > gave more than they will ever receive - at least in this earthly realm. > > The four books are arranged alphabetically by *cemetery.* Book 1, A - F; Book > 2, G - L; Book 3, M; Book 4, N - Y. > > The books are annotated so the annotations would be more subjective than > recordings. Betty may not be able to answer much about sources because of her > personal situation. I suggest that if you have questions about sources, ask > them to this list. > > Fred Smoot > > > > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

What years do they cover? Warren County, TN Cemetery Books, Annotated, Volumes 1, 2, 3, and 4. By Martha Bouldin Holt and Almetia Dunn Cunningham. Edited by Betty Moore Majors

Talk to Betty Majors at http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/index.html. She will have the answers you are looking for. Christy

You need to talk to Betty Majors with the Warren county webpage. She is over the cemetary books. Christy

I read in four volumes of cemetery records of Warren Co. and neglected to write down the compiler's name. There is much information including who parents of deceased are. Does anyone know how the information as to parents was obtained for these volumes? One entry was for Byars Webb b. 1806 and listed his father as Elisha Webb. As a descendant of Elisha I would love to know from what source this is found as I am having great difficulty locating information on Elisha Webb b. 1767 in NC, died after 1850 in probably Warren Co. Thanks to whoever did these volumes. They are great! Marla Goodrich Connected from Warren Co. to the following surnames. Webb, Jones, Bratcher, Roberts, Hughes, Hicks, Marsh, Ellis, Rowland, Stembridge,

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Beckman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] cemetery records : At 11:07 PM 10/20/02 -0400, you wrote: : : >I read in four volumes of cemetery records of Warren Co. and neglected to : >write down the compiler's name. : : That sounds like Warren County, TN Cemetery Books, Annotated, Volumes 1, 2, : 3, and 4. : By Martha Bouldin Holt and Almetia Dunn Cunningham. Edited by Betty Moore : Majors : : >There is much information including who : >parents of deceased are. Does anyone know how the information as to parents : >was obtained for these volumes? : : I would also like to know where the additional info came from. : : Thanks : --MarieB-) : The Warren County Cemetery Books were published between 1993 and 1999. Almetia Dunn Cunningham, Martha Bouldin Holt, and Betty Moore Majors would record the cemeteries and Betty put it all in to book form. Almetia became ill during the recording for the last book so Marha and Betty finished the Book 4 recording. Betty became the major care giver for her husband during work on Book 4. It is a wonder that Betty got the series finished. All three are dear ladies who gave more than they will ever receive - at least in this earthly realm. The four books are arranged alphabetically by *cemetery.* Book 1, A - F; Book 2, G - L; Book 3, M; Book 4, N - Y. The books are annotated so the annotations would be more subjective than recordings. Betty may not be able to answer much about sources because of her personal situation. I suggest that if you have questions about sources, ask them to this list. Fred Smoot