I am forwarding this to several other lists I am on. This is horrific for those of us living elsewhere & researching roots in Virginia. Patti If you have research to do on line at LVA, do it now. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whoweare/events/reducsummary.htm

--0-1943512524-1035386541=:33489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The response from an LVA staffer. Lesley Note: forwarded message attached. ===== Lesley A. Carter http://www20.brinkster.com/Rtnrlfy (home) http://www.nasponline.org (work) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --0-1943512524-1035386541=:33489 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 216.136.128.125; 23 Oct 2002 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 0: 100 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from 216.51.82.194 (EHLO NASP2.naspweb.org) (216.51.82.194) by mta508.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2002 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nasp-dom-MTA by NASP2.naspweb.org with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:11 -0400 From: "Lesley Carter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: RE: Budget cuts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Length: 1413 Received: from posta.biblioteca.local (lva.lib.va.us [192.131.239.20]) by NASP2.naspweb.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:18:38 -0400 Received: by posta.biblioteca.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id <QNC4QVZ4>; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:17:54 -0400 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: Jan Hathcock <[email protected]> To: 'Lesley Carter' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Budget cuts Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:17:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you for expressing your concern about the budget reductions at the Library of Virginia. The digitized collections already on our Web site will remain. No new major digitized collections or databases will be added. The effect of this latest round of reductions on the programs and services of the Library of Virginia has been devastating. The Library of Virginia Foundation is currently soliciting contributions for the Annual Fund. The form for contributions can be found on our Web site at <http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwedo/foundation/donation.htm>. We have been gratified by the outpouring of support for the Library and are committed to maintaining fundamental services to our users. The Commonwealth's difficult budgetary situation places in jeopardy much of what the Library has accomplished in the last decade. We appreciate your interest in the Library. -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Carter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Budget cuts Dear Ms. Hathcock: I read with great disappointment (although not surprise) of the impact that the Commonwealth's budget cuts will have on the Library of Virginia and its service. I know that I, like other amateur genealogists, am particularly unhappy about the elimination of the Digital Library program, which enables genealogists and other researchers outside the local area to access a wide variety of the LVA's materials. I am not writing this e-mail to chastise - quite the contrary. My question is rather this: might there be a possibility of supplementing the LVA's services with private donations? I know that the LVA has boxes in the Richmond facility for cash donations - is there a system in place for accepting donations via mail, online, etc.? I would have to think that other researchers like myself who regularly avail ourselves of the fine resources on the LVA website would be willing to pitch in for the survival of some of these programs. Thank you in advance, Lesley A. Carter Frederick, MD --0-1943512524-1035386541=:33489--

Ms. Nancy, The more I know, the more I know that I don't know - or - So many books, so little time. <g> Fred in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] WEST - Warren Co. pre-1850 : Gee, Mr. Fred, we can tell you've been living and learning a long time. : : Nancy in MO : : : ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== : This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. : It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical : Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. : No commercial activities are allowed on this list. : Please see full list rules here: : http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 :

Greetings, After read the LVA budget info (link below) I wonder if the VA politicos did the right thing and took a 39% pay cut to help VA in belt tightening. Fred Smoot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrisha Goodwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:20 AM Subject: [TNWARREN] Elimination of the LVA Digital Library Program & more : I am forwarding this to several other lists I am on. This : is horrific for those of us living elsewhere & researching : roots in Virginia. : Patti : : If you have research to do on line at LVA, do it now. : http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whoweare/events/reducsummary.htm : :: ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 :

Just out of curiosity, I have e-mailed the LVA to inquire about what system(s) they currently have in place for accepting private donations. I know they have donation boxes in the facility itself but I don't know what other means are available. Lesley ===== Lesley A. Carter http://www20.brinkster.com/Rtnrlfy (home) http://www.nasponline.org (work) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

Is there any chance of starting some sort of grassroots funding campaign among us genealogists to supplement the LVA? Lesley --- Patrisha Goodwin <[email protected]> wrote: > I am forwarding this to several other lists I am on. > This > is horrific for those of us living elsewhere & > researching > roots in Virginia. > Patti > > If you have research to do on line at LVA, do it > now. > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whoweare/events/reducsummary.htm > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County > Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Lesley A. Carter http://www20.brinkster.com/Rtnrlfy (home) http://www.nasponline.org (work) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

Right you are Ladye, After the end of the English Civil War, Oliver Cromwell died (1658) and was succeeded by his son Richard Cromwell. Soon after came the restoration of the English Crown (1660). Charles Stuart, the son of the executed King Charles I became King Charles II. It was Charles II who bestowed the term of Old Dominion on Virginia Colony. That is because the Virginia Colony had keep independent of Cromwell's government and remained loyal to the crown during and after the English Civil War. Virginia has many terms applied to it. Here are some. Birth Place of the Nation, Cradle of the Republic, Mother of Presidents, Mother of States, Mother of Statesmen, Mother of States and Statesmen, Old Dominion, and perhaps the most endearing term of all, simply Old Virginia (excludes West Virginia). Fred Smoot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ladye Jane Hunter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] WEST - Warren Co. pre-1850 : State of Virginia : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: <[email protected]> : To: <[email protected]> : Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:45 PM : Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] WEST - Warren Co. pre-1850 : : : > In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:19:51 PM Central Daylight Time, : > [email protected] writes: : > : > : > > I'd start looking in Old Dominion. : > > : > : > Question, please: What or where is Old Dominion? : >

While we are on the West subject. Does anyone know the parents of Mary West who married James Whitlock? They are believed to be the parents of William Whitlock who was born in 1810. Ruby

Live and learn.

In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:19:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I'd start looking in Old Dominion. > Question, please: What or where is Old Dominion?

State of Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] WEST - Warren Co. pre-1850 > In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:19:51 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > I'd start looking in Old Dominion. > > > > Question, please: What or where is Old Dominion? > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

You must be joking Fred. Do they ever? If anything they gave themselves that much pay raise. Athol Athol K. Foster DeKalb Co. Coordinator, TnGenWeb www.tngennet.org/dekalb My Fosters in DeKalb Co., Tn. www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/3627 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Smoot" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] Elimination of the LVA Digital Library Program & more > Greetings, > > After read the LVA budget info (link below) I wonder if the VA politicos did > the right thing and took a 39% pay cut to help VA in belt tightening. > > Fred Smoot >

The following was posted to the Greene Co., TN list. I have no other information, but it's a lead. Patti William West b. abt. 1765 m. Mary Rutherford Son: Reuben West b. 1788 m. June 22, 1805 Greene Co., TN Catherine Myers Children: Reuben West Jr. 1812 William West 1823 John West

In a message dated 10/22/02 4:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > The mtDNA is interesting. This may be a new approach when their is no > availablity of records. > > How many must participate in a direct line to prove the mtDNA? > > I recently read in one of the emails from a rootsweb where a male line is > using DNA to prove/disprove their lineage to a male up the line about 5 > generations. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited from your mother's mother's mother's mother... virtually unchanged for tens or even hundreds of generations. Bryan Sykes has written an excellent book "The Seven Daughters of Eve." The Y chromosome (which is what makes a baby a male child) is inherited from your father's father's father's father... for many generations, although mutations are somewhat more frequent. There are two BROWN men who didn't know each other and independently decided to get a Y chromosome test. It turns out they were a perfect match, and they both trace their ancestors back to Warren County in the early 1800's. They haven't yet found their common ancestor, but needless to say, they're working very hard together! Ann Turner [email protected] GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com

Fred: Thanks for the 'random' WEST information. I have nothing on John, Daniel, or Adam WEST. The following WEST male heads of household were in Warren Co. pre 1850. Peter WEST John WEST Adam WEST Daniel WEST Anderson WEST William WEST James WEST (does anyone have others?) One genealogy lists the wife of Stephen MITCHELL as Dorothy WEST - this MITCHELL family was in Warren Co. at the same time 1820 -50. All of these men appear to be of about the same generation, born abt 1780 -1800 + or -. I am descended from James and have exchanged data with descendents of Anderson and William WEST. We have not been able to find a connection between these families. We do not have parents or siblings of any of the above men. I have found nothing on the origin of Peter, Adam, John, or Daniel WEST. If anyone else is researching these families, or has any clue as to their origins we would be most grateful. Dennis WEST in Knoxville, TN

The mtDNA is interesting. This may be a new approach when their is no availablity of records. How many must participate in a direct line to prove the mtDNA? I recently read in one of the emails from a rootsweb where a male line is using DNA to prove/disprove their lineage to a male up the line about 5 generations. Thank you, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TNWARREN] French cemetery - Daniel WEST > In a message dated 10/22/02 2:41:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > In the 1837 will of John West (Warren Co. Will Book I, pp. 196-197), he names > > his wife Mary, an apparently married daughter, Ivy Brown, and apparently > > unmarried daughters, Nancy West, Polly West, and the youngest, Elizabeth > > Emaline West. > > > > (Note to Ann Turner: did you ever find the maiden name of Emaline who > > married > > your John Brown by 1850?) > > > > No, although I have sometimes wondered about Elizabeth Emaline West. I > haven't revisited that question in a while, but I do have a mitochondrial DNA > (mtDNA) test on a descendant of Emaline through a straight female line. It > now occurs to me that if I could locate matrilineal descendants of Ivy or > Nancy or Polly or West, we could see if their mtDNA matched. > > I've also considered the Derryberry family, as John and Emaline Brown > attended the same church, John Brown was involved in Derryberry land > transactions, and so forth. > > Ann Turner AKA [email protected] > GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html > DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com > > > ==== TNWARREN Mailing List ==== > This TNWARREN mailing list is provided by RootsWeb. > It is the joint mailing list of the Warren County Genealogical > Association and Warren County TNGenWeb Project. > No commercial activities are allowed on this list. > Please see full list rules here: > http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/tnwarren.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

In a message dated 10/22/02 2:41:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > In the 1837 will of John West (Warren Co. Will Book I, pp. 196-197), he names > his wife Mary, an apparently married daughter, Ivy Brown, and apparently > unmarried daughters, Nancy West, Polly West, and the youngest, Elizabeth > Emaline West. > > (Note to Ann Turner: did you ever find the maiden name of Emaline who > married > your John Brown by 1850?) > No, although I have sometimes wondered about Elizabeth Emaline West. I haven't revisited that question in a while, but I do have a mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) test on a descendant of Emaline through a straight female line. It now occurs to me that if I could locate matrilineal descendants of Ivy or Nancy or Polly or West, we could see if their mtDNA matched. I've also considered the Derryberry family, as John and Emaline Brown attended the same church, John Brown was involved in Derryberry land transactions, and so forth. Ann Turner AKA [email protected] GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com

It would appear that Daniel West was the only living Warren County West born outside TN, re: 1850 census. Of course, the other 1850 Warren Wests were much younger than Daniel. They look like the next generation. District 10, Household Number 1123 Daniel West, Age 69, Labourer, Born Va. Ball park figure, born 1789, considered a Warren County Pioneer, served from Warren, 1814, etc. I'd bet a buck that Daniel and a few other Wests came from VA. ca 1808-1814, settled Warren Co. TN. I'd start looking in Old Dominion. Fred Smoot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: [TNWARREN] WEST - Warren Co. pre-1850 : Fred: : : Thanks for the 'random' WEST information. I have : nothing on John, Daniel, or Adam WEST. : : The following WEST male heads of household were : in Warren Co. pre 1850. : Peter WEST : John WEST : Adam WEST : Daniel WEST : Anderson WEST : William WEST : James WEST : (does anyone have others?) : One genealogy lists the wife of Stephen MITCHELL : as Dorothy WEST - this MITCHELL family was in : Warren Co. at the same time 1820 -50. : : All of these men appear to be of about the : same generation, born abt 1780 -1800 + or -. : : I am descended from James and have : exchanged data with descendents of Anderson : and William WEST. We have not been able : to find a connection between these families. : We do not have parents or siblings of any of : the above men. I have found nothing on the origin : of Peter, Adam, John, or Daniel WEST. : : If anyone else is researching these families, or : has any clue as to their origins we would be : most grateful. : : Dennis WEST in Knoxville, TN

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis West" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [TNWARREN] French cemetery - Daniel WEST : Hi cousins: : : Does anyone have the family of Daniel WEST who : is buried in the French Cemetery. Stephen MITCHELL : and Dorothy (WEST?), ca 1820, named a son Daniel West : MITCHELL. : : Dennis West in Knoxville, TN : Dennis et al, This is NOT the answer to the posted question, however, some random "West" thoughts are offered here. In an 1839 indenture, Thomas M. Smoot conveys to his sons, Daniel and William Smoot a tract of land which Thomas purchased from Adam West. http://www.usgennet.org/family/smoot/tn/warren/1839-04-26.html I place this tract as being along the south side of the Barren Fork at the junction of Old Shelbyville Road and Old Well Road. This tract contains the stone foundation of a old gravehouse (no readable stones however). http://www.tngenweb.org/darkside/grave-house.html This tract later sold to the Andersons. http://www.usgennet.org/family/smoot/tn/warren/1850-05-24.html The gravehouse is known as the Anderson Cemetery. Gravehouses in Middle Tennessee are know at least as early as the 1830s. Smoot family tradition identifies the gravehouse as a Smoot burial place. I speculate that the gravehouse could have contained the remains of West, Smoot, and/or even Anderson family members (there was another Anderson Cemetery on the Issac Anderson, later Wm. Smoot property about 1 mile west of the gravehouse). Two Smoots could have been buried in the gravehouse, both dying in the 1840s before the tract was sold to the Andersons. Much later a Smoot bought back a portion of the orginal tract. I believe that in the mid 1990s, the tract was owned by woman named Bouldin (maybe the mother of Martha Holt, the woman who was greatly involved in the Warren Cemetery books) . In this area are a number of older families where intermarriage was possible: Anderson, Brown, Smoot, West, etc. In the 1837 will of John West (Warren Co. Will Book I, pp. 196-197), he names his wife Mary, an apparently married daughter, Ivy Brown, and apparently unmarried daughters, Nancy West, Polly West, and the youngest, Elizabeth Emaline West. (Note to Ann Turner: did you ever find the maiden name of Emaline who married your John Brown by 1850?) Also named are his sons, Adam West, John West, and William West. The sons received land. It is possible that Adam (the oldest son as listed in the Will ) received as his portion, a tract that he sold to Thomas M. Smoot. In the 1839 indenture, Thomas M. Smoot states "... purchased from Adam West for which land I hold his obligation for title ... " That might indicate that the ink was not dry on the probate transfer of John West's land to Adam. Taking a jump in time, Daniel West was buried in French Cemetery, death date 1860. William Smoot, son of Thomas M. Smoot, was Daniel West's executor. (Warren Co. Will Book IV, pp. 310-310). An 1868 Settlement reports that James Petty was a son-in-law of the dec'd, Daniel West. (Same Book, pp.389-390) "McMinnville at a Milestone" by Walter Womack, 1960 (p. 257) lists Daniel West as a private in the company of A. Rains, Capt. in the Second Regiment, West Tennesse Militia., War of 1812- serving 20 Sep 1814 - 31 Dec 1814. Could Daniel West have been a brother to John West? Fred Smoot

Hi cousins: Does anyone have the family of Daniel WEST who is buried in the French Cemetery. Stephen MITCHELL and Dorothy (WEST?), ca 1820, named a son Daniel West MITCHELL. Dennis West in Knoxville, TN