Chip, Think about this...we have had Lovell's in Knox Co forever. Lovel Road in W. Knoxville and many named Lovell/Lovel etc. I know White's but do not know the ones mentioned. I am reading the 1850, 1860, 1900 Knox Co TN Census over and over. Have found many of the Weaver's in Knox Co. Did Calvin Burton White ever live in Knox Co? If so I will watch for him. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Morom01@aol.com <Morom01@aol.com> To: TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com <TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:34 PM Subject: A plea from Chip (White, Lovel) >I got an e-mail from a friend who is in special need of help. I promised not >to divulge why this is urgent but I am trying to lend a hand. If any of you >can help me help this person let me know. She has done good research and is >not just someone wanting our free help. She has hit a block wall and needs >some help. Anything you can tell us about the families named in the message >below would be great. Just send your e-mails to me and I will pass them along >to this person. >Thanks, >Chip > >Message: > >I have ALL but my grandfather's lines back to mid 1700's, some 1500's and >pretty well documented. Now the situation is this....there appears to have >been some illegitimacy on one of his parents. NO ONE in my family will tell >me anything. I couldn't care less, neither could my adult children whom I am >doing this for. Also, he had quite a bit of Indian blood, Cherokee, not as >much as me. My father was a full blood but mixed tribes. This grandfather is >my Mother's father. I have been to East TN Historical society, I TRIED to >purchase the Union County Books, but the first was out of print. I was told >his family was talked about in there. > >What I know is this: >Calvin Burton White, son of Nancy or Mary White, born 1861 in Union County. >He died ABOUT in the 1930's. He was married in the early 1800's to Pernina >Clementine Lovel, who was born on the Union-Grainger county lines, IN >Grainger county in 1859. Their children included my Grandfather, Charles >Fulton White. I have all his siblings and most descendants. I found Calvin >and Pernina on the 1900 census, I found who I think was Calvin living with a >Nancy White of a good age to be his sister, and with a Mary, who may have >been his mother, in 1870 census. The family rumor is that they were of the >WHITE family out of VA, but I have doubts about that. It MAY be. There was >one who came from NC named Nancy with a son of the appropriate age to be >Calvin. Anyway, what I want to know is... > >Is there any specific info about this family that you know of? Could you >suggest anything? I have been in contact with beaucoup WHITE researchers with >family in that area and they all say they have never heard these names. I >KNOW they were there. >I KNEW them. >They are buried at Milan Chapel. At least Pernina is. After Calvin died, she >lived with her daughter and her husband, Pleasant and Lou Vainey Monday in >Union Co. Now, if I have breached all bounds of propriety, please forgive me, >toss this away, but PLEASE wish me luck. It is galling to me to know so >little about the family of a man I loved so much.I also am unable to tie >Pernina to a specific Lovel in Grainger Co. I do NOT understand why.....I did >so well with the rest. > > >==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== >If you live in Union County why not pitch in. Take a day and write down the tombstones in the nearest cemetery. Send it to us for others to use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some early marriage records. Anything helps. > >