Hi Kathy, Thank you so much for the "other" Joseph Allen information. Where to begin....???... Over in Yancey Co., NC there lived a John Allen, who claimed to have been born c1756, came to America when he was 14 (c1770), with his father, Joseph P. Allen (no dates for him). Although John applied for a pension, and claimed to have been a Revolutionary Soldier, the census never allows for the right age to have been in the war. According to the census, his age was never older than born c1780. This John Allen married Mary Turner, who was a sister of the Anna/Annie Turner that married Joseph Allen, b c1778-82. Annie and Joseph were parents of the Joseph P. Allen who moved to Union Co. c1875. In the family of Rebecca Allen Reed (dau. of the younger Joseph P. Allen and Fanny Jane Bradley) there is a tradition that these Allens came by ship as stowaways and almost starved to death in transit - that their real surname was not Allen, and that they took the surname of the ships captain. They were supposed to have been either Danish or Swedish. I find it very strange that my Joseph P. Allen moved into Union Co., TN, and almost immediately his children began marrying into the Sharp family there as did the older Joseph. One of Joseph and Fanny's sons, Benjamin, married Sarah Matilda/Malinda Sharp in 1877 Union Co., and they had a son named Hiram Lewis. Hiram married Eliza Dial. (I note that there was a Hiram and also a Rebecca in Joseph & Martha's family, too.) Then, after Fanny Allen's death in 1881, Joseph P. married Agnes Sharp, the younger sister of his dau-in-law, Sarah. Before my Allen families left Yancey Co. (1870 census) Annie had deceased and Joseph (1778-82) had remarried to a woman named Nancy. She was 35 on the 1870 census - he in his 90's. That seems as if there was a pattern of these Allen men marrying much younger women. I have never found a marriage record for Joseph and Nancy - she was listed as "keeping house" on the census records. Do you think there is any connection between all these Joseph Allen's? If your's was born in the 1740's, he very well could have been the father of mine born 1778-82. Could he have been the immigrant my gg aunt spoke of? I'm sending this along to the list just in case someone might know something further. Thanks loads, Joyce (aka Roberta)