A new message, "Daniels, Cupp," was posted by Patricia Purvis on Thu, 01 Jul 1999 --- NAME: Patricia Purvis EMAIL: LadiJay1@aol.com SURNAMES: Daniels, Cupp DATE: Jul 01 1999 QRYTEXT: I need info on George W. Daniels who married Phoebe Cupp. He was born abt.1847 in Tn. He son Frazier{maybe spelled Fazzier} Daniels born May 11 1872, married to Elzina Boruff on March 10 1895 in Union County. There son was Amon Daniels born Aug 3, 1898 who married Ora Weaver, Feb. 28, 1920 in Union County,Tn. There son Turner Daniels is my father. I need any info on the Daniels line I can't find anymore. Any help would be apperciated. Thanks, Patricia.

I would go to the Lawson McGhee Library in Knoxville and go through their newspaper archives. Look at the weekly paper from Knoxville, I can't remember it's name. There was the paper that became the Sentinel and then another one. Anyway they have them all on film. So knowing the year you would only have about fifty to go through. Sounds like a lot but really on film it doesn't take that long at all. Chip

Chip, I get the impression that some people think you are saying Rootsweb is considering charging for posting to the boards, lists etc. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that they were reserving the right to charge people who are selling things like genealogical books and CDs through their new classified section. They have always charged for some things by only offering them to folks who are contributors; things like hosting a surname board, being a listowner, automatic surname notification, and most recently mail mode for ROOTS-L. As for the archiving of old posts -- how is their policy any different from posting to most any other non genealogy list and having that post (while still yours, legally) archived irretrievably and for all time by Deja News or some other net archive? Please educate us further. Gail Mynatt Zeigler

We all lose one way or another when someone is greedy or doesn't share freely. =20

Chip, I agree with Rae-Davis Smith and the others. I have been on one list since it started, I was angry about the notice of information being archived for everyone. The information is now available for anyone to "take". I will never post to the Rootsweb lists again. This was not like TN-UNION, you have the best of all I've been on, the best people. I just checked you out, in the first picture you have nice hair, the rest was not available, your musical ability looks awesome. The cats picture did not come up, which is O.K., my daughter (sons wife) has a cat, being the "good mother-in-law" I took care of that cat once for two weeks. Inside cat, no claws on front paws, but oh mercy those back claws, I grabbed that cat off my table and ooh the pain, then in about a week I got sick, the "doc" said I had cat scratch fever. Not to end yet....cat had her first season. I thought cat was dying when I came home from work. I never knew they had such a strange moan. I have dogs. Thanks for sharing so much with us, Ann P.

Forgive You! I am so thankful to have someone like you in charge.I don't understand what it means to own a list but "you do gud (good)"This is my favorite list. Fran family lines-YADON,MCDONALD,CABBAGE,PENNYBAKER,STEPHENS,HARLESS,and MORE

Dear Chuck, I went to the Maynardville website and loved it. I have been following your Union County website for quite a while and sometimes it is a little like home. Betty Webb

I would like to find the precise death date of Jane Loots Glandon, who died in Union County in 1890. Specifically, I am trying to learn who her parents are and I am hoping that, with a month and day of death, an obituary or death notice might be found. Can anyone guide me in the direction of any local records that might help me find her death date with only the year to go on? Thanks in advance. This is such a great list to belong to. Becky

First cousin, second cousin, etc. are cousins that are equally distant from the common ancestor, grandchildren, great grandchildren, or great great, etc. The removed comes when they are an odd number of generations from the common ancestor. The number of generations down from the common ancestor that they are equal determines which cousin they are, then the number of generations that the one person is further away from that cousin-ship determines how far "removed" they are. (I know, this is probably as clear as mud.) Joe and Jane are brother and sister. Joe's son Mike & Jane's daughter Michelle are first cousins. Mike's son Sam & Michelle's daughter Sandra are second cousins. Sandra has a daughter Kathy. Kathy is Sam's second cousin once removed. Does that help??? Karen

For what it's worth, I was on a e-mail list that said all subscribers that were not contributors to Rootsweb would have to go digest mode. I don't do digest. I don't do blackmail. All my discretionary $$ are going to a major local genealogy project right now. So I bailed out. I still have plenty of email to read, but don't have as many questions to answer. Oh well, their loss, not mine. Karen BOOKER, MONROE, ATKINS, COMER, SHARP, BAKER

i have a question... person A is married to person B.......my family origins program lists them as second cousins once removed. exactly what relationship are they to each other---other than being husband and wife??????? what does it mean "once removed" thanks,

Keep up the good work Chip. This needs to stay a fun thing. Lar

Amen!! or Right On!! od You Talkin' Sister!........ Whatever applies. This is just fun for me & educational. Lar

HI all, Does anyone have a connection to Mondays in Union Co. TN. This is Knox Co Census. They are buried there in a small Cemetery (Miller Chapel?) Old Luttrull? James W. was his farther and a William? was his ?father. Looking to make contacts for researching this family line. Jas E. Monday age 50 (B) 1830 TN. Wife-Rebecker N. age 45 (W)(B)1835 in TN. Harriet N. age 20 (D) (B)1860 TN. Robert E.(?L.) age 18 (S)(B)1862 TN. Abner J. age 16 (S)(B)1864 TN. Martha E. age 13 (D)(B)1867 TN. Sarah C. age 9 (D)(B)1871 TN. Lula B. age 4 (D)(B)1876 TN. Samuel age 2 (S)(B)1878 TN. Thank You. Dwight Stipes

I give money to Rootsweb and I'm sure a lot of other people do also, NOW they are going to charge us for posting to their boards? I don't think this is fair at all...Chip: I agree with Kay in Georgia, if you move, your people will follow!!!!!!!! Rae in Georgia At 08:58 AM 7/1/99 EDT, you wrote: >Don't get me wrong I have absolutely nothing against Rootsweb or their >service. But I do not like what they are doing with these boards. Pages like >these are being created without consultation of the county host. I appreciate >both my page users and Rootsweb for providing a great service to me and Union >County. I have spent the last couple of years building this website, and >attracting users. I do have a problem with an organization that wants to use >my work to make money. > >How will they make money from this? If you read the agreement (included >below) you will see that the phrase "RootsWeb may charge a nominal fee for >new listings" is included. I have a problem with my users being charged >anything and it being labeled Union County. I realize that there is nothing I >can do about it. But I just wanted to put in my ten cents worth. > >Everyone wants to make money and I understand the need. But the TnGenWeb is >Non-Profit and is registered that way with the state of Tennessee. > >From Rootsweb: > ><<CLASSIFIEDS POLICIES: ><http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~classifieds/Rules.html> > >Use of the classifieds boards is currently completely free. In >the future RootsWeb may charge a nominal fee for new listings to >help cover the costs of operating the message boards.>> > >If you all think something like this would be useful to our page let me know. >I will code one myself and right on top it will say "posting here is free". >There will be no maybes about it. Let me know what you all think and if there >is enough interest I will create one and place it right on our page. > >I'm off my soapbox now, >Chip >Union County TnGenWeb >P.S. >I don't go off on these tirades very often, please forgive me. > > >==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== >If you live in Union County why not pitch in. Take a day and write down the tombstones in the nearest cemetery. Send it to us for others to use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some early marriage records. Anything helps. > > Rae Smith http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/Lay.html http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/Davis.html http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/Davis2.html Researching: Bridges,Davis,Hicks,Lay,Sexton,Smith,Terry.

LIked that Kiddy. :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: Morom01@aol.com To: TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 12:28 PM Subject: Classified Website (explanation and surprise) In a message dated 7/1/99 10:26:51 AM EST, mzwahlen@wildcatblue.com writes: << Are they planning on charging for all postings or just the classified ones? >> At this time it is just the classifieds. And they don't exactly say that they will charge, just that they reserve the right to. Thanks for all of your kind comments about me and "our" pages. Let me go a bit further here. In the past few weeks Rootsweb has been making some waves and noise about what they might and might not do. They have created a page for every county in the United States. The page for Union County links to my page. That's OK and actually I'm glad they gave me a link. But their page is a bunch of message boards. A place for you to submit wills, queries, obits, bible records and so on. Once submitted the stuff you send is archived by Rootsweb. Rootsweb is FOR PROFIT. They can sell the stuff people post with them if they choose. Where as TnGenWeb is registered as NON PROFIT. We are not allowed to charge for anything. If you will notice on pages that you all have submitted and allowed me to put on the web, there is a notice that gives copyright to who sent it in. If at any time somebody gets mad at Chip all they have to do is say "Chip you're an idiot remove my page". Bam it's gone. I do not claim to own anything anyone sends me. I am very particular about this. I feel like Rootsweb is graying the border between Rootsweb and the USGenWeb Project. Rootsweb claims to be the biggest and they are selling product based on that claim. They house most of the USGenWeb, take us away from Rootsweb and what do they have left? Some stuff they have archived that people sent in? Did they explain to these people that they might one day sell their information? How many of these people sent things in knew the difference between Rootsweb and USGenWeb? What will eventually happen to the Union County TnGenWeb? Nothing that anyone will notice. One day I may get really cheesed off and move my site off of Rootsweb. Rootsweb may say "Hey Chip you have us all wrong" and convince me of it. The TnGenWeb may get it's own dedicated server space. Or most likely... I will move it one day to my own server at Maynardville.Com. I will always have a Union County page, or see to it that someone takes it over when I'm too old or nutty to continue. Bottom line, I want Rootsweb to better explain their position while marketing their product. Tell people up front when they submit things to these boards that they are For Profit. And maybe better explain the difference between Rootsweb and us. I'm not saying Rootsweb is doing anything wrong. I just want people to know that there is a difference between Rootsweb and USGenWeb. While I'm on the subject of being nutty, a local paper did an article on me this week. Picture and all! I look like a freak in the picture though. The article was about Maynardville.Com. If you haven't seen it in a while drop by. Check out my idiotic editorials. You may never think of me the same again. Chip Union County TnGenWeb http://www.tngenweb.org/union Maynardville.Com http://www.maynardville.com P.S. Lets see how many of you read this whole letter. If you want to see my picture (not the one in the paper) go to: http://www.maynardville.com/me ==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== If you live in Union County why not pitch in. Take a day and write down the tombstones in the nearest cemetery. Send it to us for others to use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some early marriage records. Anything helps. rest cemetery. Send it to us for others to = use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some = early marriage records. Anything helps.

Hi Chip:.. I totally agree with your summation of the free posting.. I also am aware of the future charge Rootsweb is considering as I read it somewhere. Exchanging genealogy information is what genealogy is all about. Fee charging would take the enjoyment out of it. Union County is a great site and I prefer to keep it the way it is. You have done/and continue to do a fabulous job. Sincerely, sandy

Chip, Are they planning on charging for all postings or just the classified ones? I didn't even know there were classified boards. BTW you do a great job and I really appreciate all your hard work. I only wish my home counties web site was as useful as yours. You would be surprised how many people out there want your family info so they can turn around and include it in a book to sell for profit. I haven't been at this genealogy hobby very long and it has already happened to me. As soon as I posted my great grandfathers name on a message board a lady contacted me. Said she had lots of info to share and wanted mine. I shared some of mine. All I got from her in return was VERY limited info I already had. Then she gave me the ole avoid and brush off. There are all kinds out there believe me. Genealogy is a hobby and should be done for fun....not profit. All information should be shared and shared equally by ALL. I can't even begin to thank those kind, true genealogy loving folks who have shared with me. Mary Atkins Zwahlen ----- Original Message ----- From: Thagamizer@aol.com To: TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: Classified Website Don't get me wrong I have absolutely nothing against Rootsweb or their service. But I do not like what they are doing with these boards. Pages like these are being created without consultation of the county host. I appreciate both my page users and Rootsweb for providing a great service to me and Union County. I have spent the last couple of years building this website, and attracting users. I do have a problem with an organization that wants to use my work to make money. How will they make money from this? If you read the agreement (included below) you will see that the phrase "RootsWeb may charge a nominal fee for new listings" is included. I have a problem with my users being charged anything and it being labeled Union County. I realize that there is nothing I can do about it. But I just wanted to put in my ten cents worth. Everyone wants to make money and I understand the need. But the TnGenWeb is Non-Profit and is registered that way with the state of Tennessee. >From Rootsweb: <<CLASSIFIEDS POLICIES: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~classifieds/Rules.html> Use of the classifieds boards is currently completely free. In the future RootsWeb may charge a nominal fee for new listings to help cover the costs of operating the message boards.>> If you all think something like this would be useful to our page let me know. I will code one myself and right on top it will say "posting here is free". There will be no maybes about it. Let me know what you all think and if there is enough interest I will create one and place it right on our page. I'm off my soapbox now, Chip Union County TnGenWeb P.S. I don't go off on these tirades very often, please forgive me. ==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== If you live in Union County why not pitch in. Take a day and write down the tombstones in the nearest cemetery. Send it to us for others to use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some early marriage records. Anything helps. . You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some = early marriage records. Anything helps.

In a message dated 7/1/99 1:19:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Morom01@AOL.COM writes: > I think I'm psychic or something. My wife says psychotic. Psychic or psychotic -- you are a "Keeper," Chip. Nina

I swear this is the last time I'll bother you good people today! Remember yesterday when I said Yahoo will rethink their policy on Geocities pages? Guess what? Sources tell me that at 3:00pm yesterday, the policy changed. The new policy states that Yahoo makes no claim to own Geocities User Pages. I think I'm psychic or something. My wife says psychotic. Have a stupendous day, Chip