Thanks, Chip. Still waiting on that particular story. LOL Nina

Thanks so much. I just passed this along and will definitely try to find a copy of this cookbook. Thanks so much, Nina

A new message, "mattie bolen," was posted by peggy dixon on Tue, 05 Oct 1999 Surname: bolen, bolin, bowlin --- NAME: peggy dixon EMAIL: boldix@aol.com DATE: Oct 05 1999 URL: http:// QRYTEXT: searching for descedants of my great-aunt(cousin,relatives)mattie bolen(once was married to charlie collins,but divorced between 1900-1910,after loss of baby boy) i don't know who she married later,but she stayed in union co,i believe and had more children. she was probably born in hancock co. around 1875. the bolens moved to union co around 1890. she had brother named george,sherman, her father's name was eli and mother's was malinda. any grandchildren out there?.

You people seem to know way too much about moonshine! I always prefered coffee or RC with my Moon Pies, now I know what all of you are drinking. Maybe this explains all the orange Moon Pie sightings recently reported, by several of our members. Actually, a still was found in Union County, March of this year. Chip

In a message dated 10/5/99 2:46:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KAT3946429@aol.com writes: << Can someone share any stories about the trade in "bootleg liquor" in the old days? Was this big in east Tennessee and nearby? Did people get some income this way? Were there "revenuers"? >> Was there?! There still is here in Union County. Very few people don't keep a mason jar in the cabinet to cure the scratchy throat. The Movie Thunder Road was based partly on what is now Maynardville Highway. I still have the revenuer story to tell also. Chip

What do you think the old movie"Thunder Road" was about? Moonshinning in the hill of Ky and Tn. I always heard Cosby was the moonshinning capital of the world. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rae Davis-Smith [mailto:raedavissm@mindspring.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 4:54 PM > To: TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Moonshine > > > Can someone share any stories about the trade in "bootleg > liquor" in the > >old days? Was this big in east Tennessee and nearby? Did people get some > >income this way? Were there "revenuers"? > > > > >From what my grandparents and some of my other family members > raised in East > Tennessee, have told me, it must have been a common thing ... My > grandfather had a still all his life, I don't know if he sold it, he > probably did...He never worked a day in his life except at that > still...There are stills yet in those hills...I know of several places now > to buy moonshine...When I go to visit my family on a certain mountain in > East Tennessee, if I have a different vehicle than the last time > I visited, > I am followed by the people who own the still and they are fully > armed...When they stop me and find out that I am just visiting my family, > they let me go..this has been happening for so long that it > doesn't scare me > anymore...LOL...When I was small and visiting my grandparents, the stories > they told at night before we went to bed were of revenuers and the close > calls they had with them..One of my family members used to get his wife to > shoot out the door into the air with his hunting rifle when she saw the > sheriff coming so he and his boys would hear it at the still and run... > > > > > > > > > Rae Smith > http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/webring.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/Inspection.html ==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== If you live in Union County why not pitch in. Take a day and write down the tombstones in the nearest cemetery. Send it to us for others to use. You could be helping a cousin. Go to the courthouse and copy some early marriage records. Anything helps.

Nobody is going to bother you...I was talking about going up a mountain on an old logging road to visit an Aunt that lives at the top of the mountain....No other houses around anywhere...I think you are safe.....Besides, this is in Scott county anyway... At 05:00 PM 10/05/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Hmm, are they also suspicious of families in vans? We've been toying with >the idea of making a "genealogy jaunt" next summer to Lancaster co, PA & >maybe dipping down to Union county, and thereabouts...but we don't know >anybody personally that still lives there (although I'm sure that there's >plenty of kin around if I started asking around Luttrell where my Grandfather >was born.) > >While I'd love to visit, I also wouldn't want to stir up trouble. (And when >my husband & I started talking about going back with our soon-to-be 15 year >old, my 19 & 22 year old daughters piped up that they want to come too...even >if it means traipsing through cemeteries with Mom.) > >Karen > > >==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== >Got any material to submit to the website? Any kind of cemetary list that you have transcribed over the years. > > Rae Smith http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/webring.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/Inspection.html

Sounds like you are talking about one of my grandfathers there...He worked for the Sheriff's dept and ran moonshine. He didn't really work for the Sheriff's dept., it was the Sheriff's still and also the Sheriff's idea to make him a deputy so if he got stopped with the moonshine, he could say that he had just broken up a still and was taking in the evidence..Or so the story goes, told by my grandfather himself...Of course, he was known to tell a few now and then...LOL At 03:18 PM 10/05/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Yes, indeed there was moonshine in them thar hills! During the Depression, >one of my relatives did a little bit of bootlegging to help feed his family. > >On one occasion, my Dad told of taking a trip through Kentucky on his way to >Indiana to visit my Mother's relatives. He was stopped on the road by a man >who had a shot gun in hand. The man questioned him, wanted to know where >they were headed, checked the family over in the car and told my Dad, "I'll >have to ride on your running board up the road for a piece" and my Dad asked >"why". >The man said " you would not get through this area alive unless they see me >with you!" They were on the lookout for revenuers. > >When the car got to a certain point, the man told Daddy that he'd get off >there. My family were on their merry way, it's possible that they took a >different route back to TN to avoid another encounter like that. > >As a child in the 40's, our next door neighbor "ran bootleg liquor" because >our country was "dry". The funny part of this is that the man was working >for the sheriff's department. > >My husband can tell some wild tales of his step-father "running bootleg >liquor" and the police chases that took place. They sound more like "Smoky >and the Bandit" trying to "shake" the sheriff's because he went across state >lines! > >Just to let you know this really did happen in the "good ole days." > >Carolyn > > >==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== >Volunteers are always welcome at the Union County TnGenWeb Site. Also check at the TnGenWeb main site. Lots of resources there. Maybe you can help out by transcribing some records. > > Rae Smith http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/webring.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/Inspection.html

Can someone share any stories about the trade in "bootleg liquor" in the >old days? Was this big in east Tennessee and nearby? Did people get some >income this way? Were there "revenuers"? >From what my grandparents and some of my other family members raised in East Tennessee, have told me, it must have been a common thing ... My grandfather had a still all his life, I don't know if he sold it, he probably did...He never worked a day in his life except at that still...There are stills yet in those hills...I know of several places now to buy moonshine...When I go to visit my family on a certain mountain in East Tennessee, if I have a different vehicle than the last time I visited, I am followed by the people who own the still and they are fully armed...When they stop me and find out that I am just visiting my family, they let me go..this has been happening for so long that it doesn't scare me anymore...LOL...When I was small and visiting my grandparents, the stories they told at night before we went to bed were of revenuers and the close calls they had with them..One of my family members used to get his wife to shoot out the door into the air with his hunting rifle when she saw the sheriff coming so he and his boys would hear it at the still and run... > Rae Smith http://www.angelfire.com/tn/sexton/webring.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/de/LawDog/Inspection.html

Hi all, I have ancestor that ran Moonshine as you call it. Starting in 1860 through the Civil War. They made a lot of money on the Union Troops (tried to poison a few along the way). Horace started it as I am told and from there several other members of the the family engaged. They were in and out of the business until the 1940-1950s. Our most active period was during the Civil War. I have to check with members of the family as to how much I can relate and how much detailed. Our family never was really stopped or was caught. The just stopped because the money was not as good and Revenuers (tax revenuers) was really putting the pressure on. I have give you some information and will supply more detail in short stories. I don't live there now and have to remember and ask mom about the stories. I want to get them right and not tell on anybody. I can remember at age of 12 running a hauler up and down the back roads testing them. My uncles built some cars for fast running. The roads were narrow and winding some gravel some black top. You could hear us coming for 2 miles in the middle of the night. I use to sneak out of G-parents house and go down to the garages on my bicycle. More late ..... TTYL Dwight Stipes ---------- > From: KAT3946429@aol.com > To: TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Moonshine > Date: October 05, 1999 2:44 PM > > Just read this on another TN site and I'm forwarding to all of you since > Union County has plenty of experience sharing stories. Don't know if anyone > knew anyone who was involved in this, but if you do, you might contact this > lady. In fact, I'd like to know the answer to this also. History, you know. > LOL Nina > > Subj: [TNGREENE-L] Re: Moonshine Industry in East Tennessee? > Date: 10/5/99 1:05:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: dasha@unet.com.mk (Douglas/Ungaro) > To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > > Can someone share any stories about the trade in "bootleg liquor" in the > old days? Was this big in east Tennessee and nearby? Did people get some > income this way? Were there "revenuers"? > > I've only seen things in the movies or on t.v., and would like to hear > from people who really know. > > Thank you, Marian > > > > > ==== TNGREENE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to submit transcriptions of Wills, Deeds, > and Family Bible pages. Check out the Greene County > Research Helps page for details: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngreene/greehelp.htm > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <TNGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) > by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:05:46 -0400 > Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by > rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:05:33 -0400 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22588; > Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) > Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) > Message-ID: <024a01bf0f53$e8498de0$89410dd4@anhoch> > From: "Douglas/Ungaro" <dasha@unet.com.mk> > Old-To: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:46:35 +0200 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > Subject: [TNGREENE-L] Re: Moonshine Industry in East Tennessee? > Resent-Message-ID: <rXy62.A.igF.V9i-3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2815 > X-Loop: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: TNGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. > Send a message to TNUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe

In a message dated 10/5/99 5:46:30 PM Central Daylight Time, FSue31@aol.com writes: << a quart handy if anyone wanted white lightning. >> My Dad always kept a quart of white light'n around when I was growing up. I credit one drink of that making me a tee totaler for life. Georgia

Yes, indeed there was moonshine in them thar hills! During the Depression, one of my relatives did a little bit of bootlegging to help feed his family. On one occasion, my Dad told of taking a trip through Kentucky on his way to Indiana to visit my Mother's relatives. He was stopped on the road by a man who had a shot gun in hand. The man questioned him, wanted to know where they were headed, checked the family over in the car and told my Dad, "I'll have to ride on your running board up the road for a piece" and my Dad asked "why". The man said " you would not get through this area alive unless they see me with you!" They were on the lookout for revenuers. When the car got to a certain point, the man told Daddy that he'd get off there. My family were on their merry way, it's possible that they took a different route back to TN to avoid another encounter like that. As a child in the 40's, our next door neighbor "ran bootleg liquor" because our country was "dry". The funny part of this is that the man was working for the sheriff's department. My husband can tell some wild tales of his step-father "running bootleg liquor" and the police chases that took place. They sound more like "Smoky and the Bandit" trying to "shake" the sheriff's because he went across state lines! Just to let you know this really did happen in the "good ole days." Carolyn

I have been told, what we know as NASCAR today, originally was started by bootleggers/ridge runners. They would get together on Saturday nights and race one another to find out who had the fastest car.

Yes there were moonshiners all over the place in east Tenn. And yes there were revenuers. I personally have seen them . I had uncles that made moonshine and seems all the neighbors had a quart handy if anyone wanted white lightning. It was an income producer ,but mostly made a lot of drunks around.There is still some around in claiborne county. Also some wine makers.Sue

--- Floyd Owsley <owslfl@usit.net> wrote: > Hello Barb, > > I'm not sure if our families are connected. I am > descended from William M. > Rogers who married Susan Paul. > Dear Floyd, We are not very closely connected but we certainly are 'hugge'n' cousins if not 'kiss'n'. Glad to welcome you into my family. Both the Beeler's and the Rogers married the Sharps and the Ousleys. Or vice-versa. I will look into some of my other files and see where our lines cross. It might take a while since I have never been able to get back on the Rogers's past James Kelly Rogers. My great grandmother was his daughter, Rachel C. Rogers who married Lorenzo Loren Beeler in Union co and moved to Grant county OK several months [maybe as much as a year or more] before the opening of the 'strip'. James Rogers was born in 1810 in Lost Creek Claiborne county, TN. They moved later to Sharp's Chapel area and lived there all the rest of their lives. If you have even the slightest clue about the parents ofJames Kelly Rogers I would appreciate it. your new 'cousin' BARB ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hmm, are they also suspicious of families in vans? We've been toying with the idea of making a "genealogy jaunt" next summer to Lancaster co, PA & maybe dipping down to Union county, and thereabouts...but we don't know anybody personally that still lives there (although I'm sure that there's plenty of kin around if I started asking around Luttrell where my Grandfather was born.) While I'd love to visit, I also wouldn't want to stir up trouble. (And when my husband & I started talking about going back with our soon-to-be 15 year old, my 19 & 22 year old daughters piped up that they want to come too...even if it means traipsing through cemeteries with Mom.) Karen

Just read this on another TN site and I'm forwarding to all of you since Union County has plenty of experience sharing stories. Don't know if anyone knew anyone who was involved in this, but if you do, you might contact this lady. In fact, I'd like to know the answer to this also. History, you know. LOL Nina Subj: [TNGREENE-L] Re: Moonshine Industry in East Tennessee? Date: 10/5/99 1:05:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: dasha@unet.com.mk (Douglas/Ungaro) To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Can someone share any stories about the trade in "bootleg liquor" in the old days? Was this big in east Tennessee and nearby? Did people get some income this way? Were there "revenuers"? I've only seen things in the movies or on t.v., and would like to hear from people who really know. Thank you, Marian ==== TNGREENE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to submit transcriptions of Wills, Deeds, and Family Bible pages. Check out the Greene County Research Helps page for details: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngreene/greehelp.htm ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <TNGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:05:46 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:05:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22588; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <024a01bf0f53$e8498de0$89410dd4@anhoch> From: "Douglas/Ungaro" <dasha@unet.com.mk> Old-To: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:46:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [TNGREENE-L] Re: Moonshine Industry in East Tennessee? Resent-Message-ID: <rXy62.A.igF.V9i-3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2815 X-Loop: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TNGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hi all: Could someone tell me what is contained in the Union County Pathways? When is it published? Who publishes it? THANKS Dan R.

I hate to ask but if somebody has VOL 7 of the Union County PATHWAYS would they please look under DeLapp Family and let me know if a Magnolia DeLapp is mentioned. Thank you so much. Betty Webb

Jerry, I know the area you are talking about, just north of House Mountain, but I don't know if Little Flat Creek was called the West Fork or not. However, after looking at a map, I would say that's a good place to look. Good luck, Terry At 06:59 AM 10/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Terry, > >Looking at your email below leads me to think you may live in the northeast >corner of Knox County. If, so do you know if the West Fork of Flat Creek and >Little Flat Creek are the same? My GGf, John Phillip Sharrits, bought 200 acres >there from Christian Foust in about 1818. Three years later he died there. I am >trying to locate his grave by locating the property or a cemetery nearby. I >can't find the West Fork of Flat Creek. > >Thanks, > >Jerry D Sharrett >1104 Buchelew Dr >Kingsport, TN 37663 >423-239-8975 >jsharrett@intermediatn.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: Terry Clift <tlclift@esper.com> >To: <TNUNION-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:42 PM >Subject: Re: Location for Browns/Brockus perhaps Union Co. > > >> Hi, >> Lyon's Creek is in Knox County. Yes it is close to the Jefferson County >> line, but that area has always been in Knox County. My husband's ancestor >> received a land grant of several hundred acres in this area and donated >> land for Lyon's Creek Baptist Church. If fact, my family still attends >> Lyon's Creek Baptist Church. Look on a TN road map for the junction of >> Andrew Johnson Hwy (US 11E) and Asheville Hwy (25W & 70); due east of >> Knoxville. This area is called Trentville and Lyon's Creek runs through >> the middle of it. Sorry I don't recognize any of the names. >> Terry Clift >> > > > >==== TNUNION Mailing List ==== >Got any stories to tell? The Union County TnGenWeb Site is in search of stories about Union County Families from yesteryear. >