I have an ancestor who served in the military during the War of 1812. His gravestone needs to be replaced as it is in very bad shape. Is there any type of program where the government will provide a gravestone for a soldier in the war of 1812? Gene

The following was found: LETTERS OF THE TENNESSEE GOVERNORS JOHN SEVIER 1796 - 1801 ( Part 3 ) NAME YEAR PLACE INCOMING OUTGOING SUBJECT NG 1800 NG In Statement of Rob Kirkpatrick concerning the alleged murder of Hiram Kirkpatrick and John Kizer by Indians Does anyone know who Hiram and Rob Kirkpatrick are? I'm researching the Kizer family in Sumner Co, TN, descendants of Philip Kizer. Philip had a son named John but he died in 1860. Haven't found Philip Sr's siblings names, if any. Thomas Green Kizer married Pelina Elizabeth Kirkpatrick in 1861. Thomas was the grandson of Philip Sr. Sallie Kizer, grgranddaughter of Philip Sr married Taylor Kirkpatrick in 1885. So, trying to find out if these two Kirkpatrick's were from Sumner Co and were killed by Indians there or in Nashville area. If so then that might connect this John Kizer to Philip Sr. Tammy Owen Bastrop County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm <A HREF="http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=5647408&siteid=35098265&bfpage=digbutton">Ancestry.com - View Census Images Online</A> The Best! with subscription. <A HREF="http://www.myfamiliesname.com/?AID=2834348&PID=849435">MyFamiliesName.com - "Preserving and Reserving Your Family Name Online."</A> <A HREF="http://www.qksrv.net/click-849435-487817">Go to the AandE, Biography and The History Channels</A> <A HREF="http://pages.ebay.com/">EBay - the world's online marketplace</A> Best place to find used genealogy stuff. <A HREF="http://www.qksrv.net/click-849435-168019">Half.com: The Smartest Place to Buy and Sell Genealogy material.</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

Would someone who has the Sumner Co. TN Cemetery book please look up Ben and Lizzie Jameson for me please?

Hello John, I'm not a LEE researcher, but I checked the Sumner Co. Cemtery book. Could this be your LEES? McClowd Cemetery On Hollis Chapel Rd.1 9/10 m. W of Hwy 109 Cemetery located 100 yds N of rd on Mr. Dempsey Briley's property. LEE Etta W. T. Infant of I. N. and H. M. LEE- No dates given. Is this I. N. LEE the same as Issac N. LEE? Hope this works out for you. Ann In a message dated 6/20/01 8:03:30 AM, you wrote: >Good evening! > >Has anyone ever heard of Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery? My great great >grandfather is buried there according some research that was given to me. >His name was Issac N. Lee, 1838-1925(25 Mar 1925), my gg grandmother >Harriett JACKSON Lee may also be buried there. I will be driving through >the Sumner County area next month and I want to visit the cemetery. Maybe >someone can do a look-up and verify that they are buried there and tell me >where it is. > >Thanks >John Steiger

This is a reply to the posting by John Steiger. Thank you for the opportunity to use the book I recently purchased, "Sumner County Cemetery Records" by Snider & Yorgason, reprinted 2001, McDowell Publications. The cemetery that you are seeking I believe is Friendship Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery. The map shows it to be northeast of White House, TN, on or near route 6124. Listed are I.N. Lee, Father, 30 April 1838 - 23 Mar. 1925 and H.M. Lee, Mother, 28 May 1839 - 2 Aug. 1914. Next in the listing, which I assume indicates that the burials were adjacent, is R.H. White and his wife, A.C. Jackson. R.H. White is a member of the White family that I am researching. I hope that this helps you. Keith White gkwhite@brazoria.net

Good evening! Has anyone ever heard of Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery? My great great grandfather is buried there according some research that was given to me. His name was Issac N. Lee, 1838-1925(25 Mar 1925), my gg grandmother Harriett JACKSON Lee may also be buried there. I will be driving through the Sumner County area next month and I want to visit the cemetery. Maybe someone can do a look-up and verify that they are buried there and tell me where it is. Thanks John Steiger ---------- John Steiger email: jsteiger@houston.rr.com Surnames: Steiger, Saxton, Brailly, Cavanagh, David, Dusch, Dempsey, Elmore, Hansen, Holmes, Johnson, Lee, McDonald, States: Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Tennessee Web sites: http://www.egroups.com/group/ClearfieldPA (Clearfield Co., PA) Generations Not Forgotten http://www.seventhfair.com/

I am looking for more info for Elizabeth "Betsy" Young who married Joseph Underwood in Sumner co July 25 1806. Her father was "a" Samuel Young. There seems to have been multiple Samuel Youngs in Sumner at this time. I know nothing of her mother. Thanks J. Ray Young

> It was only a few years ago that I began to get angry at the twist of > fate that took my fun loving Daddy away from me at the young age of > 34.....He died of Leukemia, leaving a wife 2 months pregnant and with a > "Stair step" set of 8 kids to rear on her own. The hard life of a > sharecropper and growing up on a farm had prepared Mama for hard work, > but nothing she had experienced before could have prepared her for the > heartbreaking loneliness she suffered after the death of her fun loving > husband that she missed so very much.....I can only imagine how forsaken > she felt as she prepared to move her brood of fatherless children to the > big log home of her Mother.....The farm owner insisted we stay on in the > big farmhouse and he would rent the farmland out, but Mother knew that > was not the right thing to do, so she had Daddy's brother's build another > kitchen onto Ma's house and we moved up the little dirt road in the very > early Spring....Since Mama and Ma didn't get along at all, I am sure > Mother was glad she would only be staying there till the birth of my > brother. She had already set in motion the move to a little 5 acre place > nearby . > The farm's owner had arranged for us to get Welfare from the > county...about $80.00 a month for the 10 of us to live on ....and as we > got older we worked for area farmers picking strawberries and hoeing > cotton to buy our school clothes and shoes. I think if Daddy had lived he > would be proud of his huge family of descendents, and watch with glee the > antics of those Great Grandchildren going through the terrible two's ! > We were never allowed to forget our Daddy, and Mama talking to us about > him may have helped her handle her grief a little bit. There was never > anything bad said about him, and our memories of this colorful man were > kept very much alive through tales of the mischievous tricks he and his > horde of rough and tumble brothers got up to when they were young , and > other things she remembered . We older kids talked to the younger ones, > and Mother paid money she couldn't really afford to get a picture of her > and Daddy enlarged and framed to hang up where we could see our Daddy all > the time. She was so afraid we would forget him.. Over the years all > pictures of Daddy were copied and passed around in the family . > Ironically enough, the rest of his brothers and sister lived to be 80 > years old or more....and to our possibly prejudiced eyes, God skimmed the > cream off the top when he took our Dad ! I would not hesitate a minute to > say God may have thought more than once that he might have been just a > wee bit hasty in sending for Douglas Winchester , because I don't think > anything in Heaven or on Earth could keep my scamp of a Daddy from > playing tricks on others ! > He has been gone since 1946, and I have never got over sorrowing for my > Daddy who thought every weird thing I said or did was funny --- even if > it scandalized my more serious Mother .....Jeannie T...Clarksville, TN ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In a message dated 6/16/01 7:43:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hgdonald@leo.infi.net writes: > Hub Perdue Hulb used to come to Bethpage on Sunday morinings and walk in front of the Central Garage looking in the gravel. Someone would always ask, "what are you looking for Hub?" He would reply, "I am looking for my diamond. I had a fight with Russell Braswell here about twenty years ago and I hit Russell's head with my fist. I was wearing a one thousand dollar diamond ring on my third finger. The diamond fell out of the setting and I have been looking for it ever since. They say a diamond will cut glass but that 1000 dollar diamond never even scratched Russells hard head." I doubt very much if Hub ever found the diamond. Maybe it is still there. Fred Robinson.

Here's old great grandfather John W. Robinson again with more information on my 3GGrandfather, Thomas J. Edwards. I examined the 1830 Sumner County census and found family no. 1959 listed as Thomas J. Edwards. The number & ages of both males & females match exactly the names and ages listed by my grandmother, Mary Rice in 1926. She was their great grandaughter. Further, Priscilla's father, Nathan Edwards is listed just above them as family no. 1957. On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:05:10 -0500 JOHN W ROBINSON <JAKEROB00@juno.com> writes: > I am a GGG Grandson of Nathan Edward's oldest daughter, Priscilla > Edwards Edwards, who married Thomas J. Edwards in Sumner County in > 1812. I am almost certain that my 3G Grandfather Thomas Edwards had > the middle initial J. At least that is what I can determine from > Nathan Edwards's will which was made in about 1826. I have a copy of > it somewhere in my files. I know that Priscilla had a brother named > Thomas C. Edwards as well as other brothers named Littleberry and > William. Inasmuch as my 3G Grandfather Thomas Edwards was born in > 1782, I feel strongly that he was named for our founding father, > Thomas Jefferson. All of you let me have your thoughts on this. I > married a Robinson girl 57 years ago and her DAR certificate reads, > Vivian Robinson Robinson. We can not find any other kinship for at > least 300 years. Her ancestors in the AR were real heroes: A Lt. > Joseph Robinson and a Major Moses Bond of South Carolina. The Major > was hung by the British & Tory forces there in 1781. > > John W. Robinson, Sr. jakerob00@juno.com Those are zeroes , not > capital O's > On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:52:25 -0600 Amy Cantrell <Acangelic@att.net> > writes: > > Posted on: Sumner Co. Tn Queries Forum > > Reply Here: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tn/Sumner/11986 > > > > Surname: EDWARDS, CANTRELL, HASSELL, COTTON, WILLIS > > ------------------------- > > > > I have a will from Sumner County Tennessee. > > William Edwards of Town of Gallatin- January 3, 1839 Will to > William > > Cantrell > > $1000. To Z.P. Cantrell $1000. To D.H. Cantrell $1000. To G or > C.C. > > Cantrell > > $1000. To Sally Willis $500. To L.B. Edwards $1000. To Lovey > Cotton > > $500. > > To Sally Hassell wife of Asa Hassell $500. To Patience Cotton wife > > > of Hugh > > Cotton $500. To Thomas C. Edwards $500. To James Edwards my > brother > > $500. > > To Mary C. Edwards dau. of Thos C. Edwards $500. To Priscilla > > Edwards wife > > of Thomas R Edwards, colored woman Amy & child John to Lucy > Cotton. > > To > > Mary Cantrell, dau of D.H. Cantrell, negro girl. To Mary W. > Cantrell > > dau. > > of D.H. Cantrell. To L.B. Edwards. Appoint William Cantrell, D.H. > > > Cantrell > > and L.B. Edwards exec. Pvd. February Court 1839. > > If anyone can connect with these people especially the Cantrell's, > > > please > > contact me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Amy Cantrell > > > >

"Franklin functioned as a sovereign state for about three years, or until North Carolina reaffirmed its own right to govern. The end came in 1788 when a militia battle between the pro and con backers of the independent state settled the matter. North Carolina then took full control of the area. (Tennessee has preserved the historic battle gorund, The Tipton-Haynes Site, just south of Johnson City)." John Sevier was governor and at one point the State "applied for entry into the Union." Source: Tennessee - Territory to Statehood by Dave Foster.

I was fortunate to have Miss Mary Riley at Bogardus T. Snowden Jr. High in Memphis as my TN history teacher. She had a way of making it all so very interesting. But then, we believed that she was giving an eye witness account! <grin> Charlie Ellis Mary Pat wrote: > I, too, enjoyed all the discourse about the State of Franklin. I just plain > TN history. Mary Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pamela Vick [mailto:thecatlady@mindspring.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:46 PM > To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNSUMNER] State of Franklin

I, too, enjoyed all the discourse about the State of Franklin. I just plain TN history. Mary Pat -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Vick [mailto:thecatlady@mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:46 PM To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSUMNER] State of Franklin List, It has been a true learning lesson to read all the answers about this State. I went to public school in Nashville and I don't remember any mention of it. Well, live and learn. Pam Vick

In a message dated 6/16/2001 6:43:31 PM Central Daylight Time, hgdonald@leo.infi.net writes: > Hub Perdue is correct, but n "A Pictorial History of Sumner County, > Tennessee, > 1786-1986", Walter T. Durham and James W. Thomassay he started pitching > for the Boston Red Sox in 1911 (p. 144). I really don't know. Just > thought this > would be Saturday fun related to the history of Sumner County. > > Who were his parents? > According to "History of Tennessee From the Earliest Time to the Present", (Goodspeed Publishing, 1887), this is the family of Herbert Rodney PERDUE. Descendants of Marion B. PERDUE and Zoeintha DURHAM 1 Marion B. Perdue b: 12 Sep 1846 in Sumner Co., TN d: 18 May 1924 in Sumner Co., TN Burial: Bethpage Cemetery, Sumner Co., TN .. +Zoeintha E. Durham b: 13 May 1843 d: 17 Dec 1904 in Sumner Co., TN m: Aft. 1870 Burial: Bethpage Cemetery, Sumner Co., TN ......... 2 Cotton Warren Perdue ......... 2 Daisy A. Perdue ......... 2 Green Perdue ......... 2 Erma Queen Perdue ......... 2 Herbert Rodney Perdue b: 1882 in Sumner Co., TN d: 1968 Burial: Bethpage Cemetery, Sumner Co., TN ......... 2 Virgil Blair Perdue b: 23 Nov 1885 in Sumner Co., TN d: 30 Apr 1902 in Sumner Co., TN Burial: Bethpage Cemetery, Sumner Co., TN ......... 2 Ada Marshall Perdue b: 1876 d: 1876 Marion B. PERDUE was the son of Daniel Green PERDUE and Matilda Jane MATTOX. Robyn

List, It has been a true learning lesson to read all the answers about this State. I went to public school in Nashville and I don't remember any mention of it. Well, live and learn. Pam Vick

Fellow Sumner County Researchers: I finally found a way to share all of the unknown photos from my great grandparent's collection. They grew up on the Sumner/Macon County border; both of their families go back into the early 1800's for the area. Hope someone from the list finds a match or can identify some of these photos. Please feel free to copy any of the photos you may find that pertain to your family. Martie Williams Cashion <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/mytree2/index.html">Click here: Willie Edna Redmond & Jesse William Minick Unknown Photos</A> or http://hometown.aol.com/mytree2/index.html Genealogy Entwines The Past and Future ~You Become A Mere Branch On A Growing Tree That Never Needs Pruning, Just Your Tender Loving Care <A HREF="http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mytree2/index.html">My Tree Too</A> http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mytree2/index.html Genealogy Entwines The Past and Future ~You Become A Mere Branch On A Growing Tree That Never Needs Pruning, Just Your Tender Loving Care <A HREF="http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mytree2/index.html">My Tree Too</A> http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mytree2/index.html

Thanks to all of you that sent replies to my querries about the State of Franklin. This is an interesting part of our history that we dont find a whole lot about in many of our grade school history books. :-( I probably has a few relatives there. Thanks J. Ray Young

Hub Perdue is correct, but n "A Pictoral History of Sumner County, Tennessee, 1786-1986", Walter T. Durham and James W. Thomassay he started pitching for the Boston Red Sox in 1911 (p. 144). I really don't know. Just thought this would be Saturday fun related to the history of Sumner County. Who were his parents? Helen "Denning, John" wrote: > Re: "What Sumner Countian was a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, and When?" > Posted by Helen > > Hi Helen and Listers, > > We submit the following Sumner County Baseball Pitcher: > > Herbert Rodney PERDUE, known as "Hub PERDUE, the Gallatin Squash" > b. 07 Jun 1882, Bethpage, Sumner Co., Tennessee > Height: 5-10-1/2" Weight: 192 lbs > d. 31 Oct 1968, Gallatin, Texas > [ Note: There is a Gallatin, Texas - in Cherokee County ! ] > Pitched: > 1911 Boston Braves - NOT the Boston Red Sox > 24 games, W-6, L-10 > > Note: The Boston Braves were in the National League at the same time as the > Boston Red Sox were in the American League. The Boston Braves moved to > become the Milwaukee Braves, then moved again to become the Atlanta Braves. > > 1912 Boston Braves > 37 games, W-13, L-16 > 1913 Boston Braves > 38 games, W-16, L-13 > 1914 Boston Braves > 9 games, W-2, L-5 > 1914 St. Louis Cardinals > 22 games, W-8, L-8 > 1915 St. Louis Cardinals > 31 games, W-6, L-12 > > There are many RIPPY family branches in Sumner County. > Anyone know this one with a little variation in surname? > > Benjamin Wesley RIPPAY > b. 30 Apr 1850, Alamance Co., NC > Changed his name to: Charles Wesley JONES > Pitched: > 1887 New York in the American Association > 2 games, 3 innings > > Another pitcher with a very long name (Genealogist's delight?): > > Calvin Coolidge Julius Caesar Tuskahoma McLISH > Known as "Cal" or "Buster" McLISH > b. 1925 in Anadarko, Oklahoma > > Pitched: > 1944 - Brooklyn Dodgers > 1946 - Brooklyn Dodgers > 1947 - Pittsburgh Pirates > 1948 - Pittsburgh Pirates > 1949 - Chicago Cubs > 1951 - Chicago Cubs > 1956 - Cleveland Indians > 1957 - Cleveland Indians > 1958 - Cleveland Indians > 1959 - Cleveland Indians > 1960 - Cincinnati Reds > 1961 - Chicago White Sox > 1962 - Philadelphia Phillies > 1963 - Philadelphia Phillies > 1964 - Philadelphia Phillies > > Hope this wins ! > What's the prize ? > > John & Pat Denning > Covington, Washington

Pamela Vick wrote: > J. Ray Young, > > I just read on a website two days ago about the State of > Franklin. I had never heard of it before and it existed for > a short time. I believe Sumner Co. was part of this State. > Here is the website, go and check me out on this. > http://www.wizard.com/~bascs/tnchron.htm > > Luck, Pam Vick Those of us fortunate to have grown up in Tennessee will likely remember seventh grade Tennessee History class, in which we learned about the late great State of Franklin. The state of Franklin precipitated a minor crisis in the US Congress, because while the constitution provides for admitting new states, it does not prescribe just HOW this was to be done. Franklin applied for admission and Congress had no idea how to do it. They went back to the drawing board, set up some guidelines, and then admitted Kentucky and Vermont. The original State of Franklin did not have a large enough population to meet the guidelines set by Congress. The State of Franklin only expended from Bristol down to Knoxville (as I recall) so in order to have a large enough population, they simply extended the northern and southern borders of North Carolina to the US border, which then was the Mississippi River. Voila! Tennessee! You will note that the officers of Franklin (Blount, Sevier, et alia) were by and large the same men as the first officers of Tennessee. So, in effect, Franklin was a dry run for the formation of the state of Tennessee, but it did not include the Cumberland Valley settlements of Nashville or Gallatin. All this is from school 35 years ago, so if there is any better authority than my feeble memory, I will gladly stand corrected. Charlie Ellis

Re: "What Sumner Countian was a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, and When?" Posted by Helen Hi Helen and Listers, We submit the following Sumner County Baseball Pitcher: Herbert Rodney PERDUE, known as "Hub PERDUE, the Gallatin Squash" b. 07 Jun 1882, Bethpage, Sumner Co., Tennessee Height: 5-10-1/2" Weight: 192 lbs d. 31 Oct 1968, Gallatin, Texas [ Note: There is a Gallatin, Texas - in Cherokee County ! ] Pitched: 1911 Boston Braves - NOT the Boston Red Sox 24 games, W-6, L-10 Note: The Boston Braves were in the National League at the same time as the Boston Red Sox were in the American League. The Boston Braves moved to become the Milwaukee Braves, then moved again to become the Atlanta Braves. 1912 Boston Braves 37 games, W-13, L-16 1913 Boston Braves 38 games, W-16, L-13 1914 Boston Braves 9 games, W-2, L-5 1914 St. Louis Cardinals 22 games, W-8, L-8 1915 St. Louis Cardinals 31 games, W-6, L-12 There are many RIPPY family branches in Sumner County. Anyone know this one with a little variation in surname? Benjamin Wesley RIPPAY b. 30 Apr 1850, Alamance Co., NC Changed his name to: Charles Wesley JONES Pitched: 1887 New York in the American Association 2 games, 3 innings Another pitcher with a very long name (Genealogist's delight?): Calvin Coolidge Julius Caesar Tuskahoma McLISH Known as "Cal" or "Buster" McLISH b. 1925 in Anadarko, Oklahoma Pitched: 1944 - Brooklyn Dodgers 1946 - Brooklyn Dodgers 1947 - Pittsburgh Pirates 1948 - Pittsburgh Pirates 1949 - Chicago Cubs 1951 - Chicago Cubs 1956 - Cleveland Indians 1957 - Cleveland Indians 1958 - Cleveland Indians 1959 - Cleveland Indians 1960 - Cincinnati Reds 1961 - Chicago White Sox 1962 - Philadelphia Phillies 1963 - Philadelphia Phillies 1964 - Philadelphia Phillies Hope this wins ! What's the prize ? John & Pat Denning Covington, Washington