Samuel Armstrong m. Magdalan Knox. They lived in Sumner County TN. Samuel died in 1806. What Sumner Co., TN, sources would I consult to find information on Magdalan after this date? In which cemetery would Samuel have been buried at that time? Thanks for helping, Carol Carol Patterson Davis cpdavis@mediaone.net

Hi, Carol. I don't have any specific information on Magdalan Knox. However, in my Gillespie line I show Lydia Gillespie (born 1753 in Rowan Col, NC) marrying Capt. James Knox in NC. They had a daughter, Jane Knox, that married Samuel Polk. Their first son, James Knox Polk, moved to TN and eventually became the 11th president of the United States. Would this be part of your Knox line? Richard Gillespie, DC mailto:DrRickTx@rattlers.net -----Original Message----- From: Carol Davis [mailto:cpdavis@mediaone.net] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:34 PM To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSUMNER] Armstrong/Knox Samuel Armstrong m. Magdalan Knox. They lived in Sumner County TN. Samuel died in 1806. What Sumner Co., TN, sources would I consult to find information on Magdalan after this date? In which cemetery would Samuel have been buried at that time? Thanks for helping, Carol Carol Patterson Davis cpdavis@mediaone.net

I am a great great grandson of John Mitchell McKoin Sr. and Betty Chestnut and I think my great great great grandparents were Seth McKoin and wife Maria Mitchell. I would apppreciate any info

Will this list be restricted to just Sumner Co. stories? I'd prefer it to be much broader to entail not just Sumner Co. but ANY stories regarding the past. Rick Richard Gillespie, DC mailto:DrRickTx@rattlers.net -----Original Message----- From: June Fore [mailto:4444@evansville.net] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:28 AM To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSUMNER] Sumner County Memories I just got the information from Rootsweb on how to start this list. Is there anyone who would be interested in becoming the administrator if we do start it? I am not too computer smart so it kind of scares me. If anyone is interested in trying it let me know and I'll send the information to you. Otherwise It will have to wait a while till I can summon up the courage to try it! June in Indiana

The obit of Betty Ann Link Haneline is in today's Tennessean. http://tennessean.com/ Joyce

I just got the information from Rootsweb on how to start this list. Is there anyone who would be interested in becoming the administrator if we do start it? I am not too computer smart so it kind of scares me. If anyone is interested in trying it let me know and I'll send the information to you. Otherwise It will have to wait a while till I can summon up the courage to try it! June in Indiana

I truly enjoy the stories that have been posted. Sometimes while telling a story from the past, a name or two pops out. Someone might connect with that person. I like hearing about how it was in a county where my ancestors are from. I did not have the chance to hear this kind of history from my family. I check my email eagerly for these stories. They give me a smile at the end of the day. Just my nickel's worth. Donna Nichols ;}

Need any info at all about the parents or relationships to each other of the following HILLs who married in Sumner Co by 1850: Hawkins HILL married Nancy DOUGLASS 1824 John B. HILL married Nancy R. PARKER 1831 Hugh B. HILL married Mary READ 1835 William HILL married Mary J. CHEEK 1849 Isabella HILL married David MAYES 1849 Thomas S. HILL married Zulima HOUSE 1850 Are any of the above HILLs related to Lewis C. HILL who moved to Sumner Co from Wilson Co in 1843? Thanks so much for any clues!

I am researching these families. I have alot of information to share and if anyone has anything to add I would be extremely greatful. These families lived near the Sumner county, Trousdale county and Wilson county lines. I would love to talk to anyone who may have information on any of these families or relatives of them. Thanks in advance.

THIS IS MY FIRST ATTEMPT TO LOCATE MY FATHER AND FAMILY. THOUGHT SINCE YOU WERE LOOKING UP DECENDENTS YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME INFO FOR ME , THAT YOU COULD SHARE . MY MOTHER JUST DIED TWO AND ONE HALF MONTHS AGO . HER MAIDEN NAME WAS ANNA ALLEN, THEN MARRIED THOMAS OSCAR CAMACK JR. THEY LIVED IN PASO ROBLES CALIFORNIA , IN SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY . I NEVER NEW HIM , I NEED TO KNOW IF I HAVE FAMILY , HALF BROTHERS OR SISTERS , CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME .???? I JUST CAME ACCROSS SOME NAMES IN MY BABY BOOK AND OTHER PHOTO ALBUMS . I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT . TOMMY AS NEAR AS I CAN FIGURE WAS BORN ABOUT 1925. BECAUSE ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE IT SAID HE WAS 21 YRS. OF AGE .AND THAT HE WAS FROM LAS ANGALAS ,CALF. AND THAT HE WAS THIRD CLASS , US NAVY . PLEASE !!! CAN YOU HELP ME ??? LOIDENE CAMACK HALL

Hi All, I found these stories to be quite interesting, as I have heard my Aunts and Uncles, (Crowder&Womack) speak of Gypsies, camping on their farms, but have never heard of these peddlers,Funny thing the worst the gypsies ever did was cause them to miss a chicken or two! Keep those stories coming. My wife myself, and 3 kids are moving to Bethpage the 1st of October, and getting out of this cesspool of the South, (South Florida) ! Hope you all know that sometimes life IS greener on the other side of the fence. Patterson Crowder

Well Said, however, I disagree on one minor point: I feel that HOW our ancestors lived is an integral part of genealogy, as much so, as vital statistics. ronnief wrote: > What is genealogy? It's finding great-great grandpa, John Smith, > who was born in 1850 in Sumner County, TN and died in 1925 in Sumner > County, TN. Is it more than that? > If some 30 year old brownstone dweller in New York is researching > and finds that this John Smith was his great-great grandpa and he/she > has the dates, then that person might want to know what life was like > back then in Sumner County. If somebody who is 90 years old from Sumner > County writes a story on the list about the peddler coming through the > community or their brother knocking over the outhouse, then that 30 year > old in New York gets some idea what happened in the everyday life of > great-great grandpa, John Smith. > I found a diary on another site that was written by a housewife in > the late 1800's. In her diary, she wrote about the weather that day, a > quilt she was making, setting eggs under a hen, food she cooked, people > she visited and visited her, neighbors who died. Through her everyday > routines that she wrote about, I get to breathe life into my ancestors > during that period who would have been living the same routine. > Some people who DO genealogy might want nothing more than a name > with a date-of-birth and a date-of-death; but for us who ENJOY > genealogy, we want to know what life was like for that name between > his/her date-of-birth and date-of-death. > So, in short, if you people who "do" genealogy would patiently > indulge us who "enjoy" genealogy, you also might learn to "enjoy" the > genealogy that you are "doing". > Thanks

To me, the most noticeable thing in the stories that have been posted is that so many of them come from people whose parents grew up in Sumner County but left during the 1930s and 1940s to find employment in Detroit and other northern cities. The Okies' trek to California was made famous in "The Grapes of Wrath," but the migration from Sumner Co. and other southern areas has gone pretty much unnoticed except by the music industry. My family stayed put, but news of the relatives "up north" was the main topic of conversation at every gathering. These are not just funny little stories or strolls down Memory Lane. This is the stuff of history, and I'm willing to bet that future historians will be happy to have our genealogies and these archived mailing lists for source material. Joyce

I need to correct my info on the diary I had mentioned earlier. It's a 1901 diary and it's posted on another website. I have received some requests for the diary. I don't think I am supposed to post something from another site on this list but if anybody wants the diary, I can send the page to your e-mail address. When I send it, don't worry, it does not come to you as an attachment.

The obit for Mary Louise Webb McMurtry, widow of James Webb and John McMurtry is in today's Nashville Tennessean http://tennessean.com/ Joyce

I was not born in Tenn. and have only been there once breifly on my way to Miss to gamble. However My gggrandfather Edward Crews lived there near Castillion Springs as did many of his sibelings and his parents. He married Sarah Bently of Sumner Co. and raised a family there. To get to the point I enjoy hearing these storeys of Sumner Co. for it gives me a feeling of being there and looking at what might have been in my gggrandparents days in Sumner Co Tenn. Cullen Crews

Good morning, all. I really think we are making too much out of the "peddlar" stories. Those of us that enjoy these stories should be free to read them. Those that don't care for the stories don't have to read them. You can simply hit the delete button. Personally, I'd like to hear more stories. I hope everyone on the list has a GREAT weekend. Richard Gillespie, DC mailto:DrRickTx@rattlers.net -----Original Message----- From: James Neill [mailto:neillliberal@onlinemac.com] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:56 PM To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSUMNER] Apology List, Sorry that I stured up so much trouble with Peddlers here. These were part of the lives of us and our relatives. I don't just want to know just who a relative was, I would like to know what the country was like, what the people did, their thoughts, When doing geneology, as I have for five years and people can't share stories of the past, then it's time to throw the work you have spent countless thousands of hours compiling out in the garbage can. Isn't genealogy a study of your relatives and not just put a name down for that person, tag them and let them collect dust, tell people you have thousands of names in your files. I enjoy so much, reading letters from people that served in the Civil War on this site that people post. Some things and many I don't read, I delete. Many, many people have e mailed me privately sharing what they had, that was never posted here. It's a shame, so much wasted to unwanted ears, some embarrassing, some funny. What about having a one day of the week, Memories of the Past Day. I have something that I will post if this can be, or will be permissible. Jim Neill, grew up in Gallatin, Sumner County, now living in Oregon

Sue, I will get all my info together and send it to you. Nadine had cancer, but still died suddenly. I really miss her as she lived so close to me. My Momis doing fairly well, but she is 82 . She does not know any thing. I think there is a reason we come to a blank wall with this family. Aunt Ethel hinted at this. The Summers side is a little better. The farm that my Mom grew up on was from the Summers' side. They got it from the Black Hawk wars. Let you know more later. Peggy

I for one vote love the peddler and outhouse stories.. and yes I am old enough to remember both.. I think that they are a big part of our heritage. And have no problem with them on any list.. but perhaps they would be more appropriate on the GenHumor list.. which is GenHumor-L@rootsweb.com As far as I am concerned they are fine right here.. but this would be another option.. and that site does have some delightful stories... On a more personal note.. my father died when I was a wee baby.. I did not have the opportunity to meet him and recall him.. I grew up with my older siblings and mother telling me stories of my dad, what a wonderful dad and man he was... but it took his playmate telling me about their early days in school and trapping skunks and skinning them on their way to school, to make my dad a person, so I feel that the old stories do help us recall a way of life that some of us and most of our children and grandchildren can not imagine.. Becky

> Jim, > > We have a TN MEMORIES list for just this kind of thing. Is it possible we > could start a SUMNER CO MEMORIES list just for our local ancestors! I'll bet > there would be lots of interest. How do we find out? Wouldn't that be a > treasure to have and keep the memories and tales of our Sumner County folks? > > We hear tales from our families but seldom get a chance to share or collect > them. It would an absolute treasure, wouldn't it? > > June in Indiana > Grew up in Westmoreland, Sumner Co., Tn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Neill" <neillliberal@onlinemac.com> > To: <TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:55 PM > Subject: [TNSUMNER] Apology > > > > List, > > > > Sorry that I stured up so much trouble with Peddlers here. These were > > part of the lives of us and our relatives. I don't just want to know just > > who a relative was, I would like to know what the country was like, what > the > > people did, their thoughts, When doing geneology, as I have for five years > > and people can't share stories of the past, then it's time to throw the > work > > you have spent countless thousands of hours compiling out in the garbage > > can. Isn't genealogy a study of your relatives and not just put a name > down > > for that person, tag them and let them collect dust, tell people you have > > thousands of names in your files. I enjoy so much, reading letters from > > people that served in the Civil War on this site that people post. Some > > things and many I don't read, I delete. Many, many people have e mailed > me > > privately sharing what they had, that was never posted here. It's a > shame, > > so much wasted to unwanted ears, some embarrassing, some funny. What > about > > having a one day of the week, Memories of the Past Day. I have something > > that I will post if this can be, or will be permissible. > > > > Jim Neill, > > grew up in Gallatin, Sumner County, now living in Oregon >