Here are the guidelines for this list. Diane Payne GENERAL GUIDELINES & TIPS FOR USE 1. This list is for sharing genealogical and historical information relating to Sumner County, Tennessee. Off topic posts are not permitted. 2. When posting a query regarding specific family information, try to include the surname in the subject line. 3. Do not post any virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, items for sale, or personal messages. 4. The TNSUMNER-L Mail List, is a large list, please do not start a Roll Call. 5. Please do not post copyright protected material to the list. This includes cutting and pasting information found on websites written by others. 6. Do not forward e-mail from others, without their permission. 7. I insist that there be no rude comments or flaming on the list! If you have a concern with an individual’s comments, or the way a person formats their request, please write directly to the individual first. You can also bring your concerns to the listowner. If you need help, please contact your listowner: Diane Payne's e-mail address is DianePay@aol.com Good luck and have fun!

Hi Friends, Let's stop e-mailing the group if you are pro or con regarding the topics recently e-mailed to the list. If you have a concern about a topic please write to the person privately. You can also always e-mail me. The Sumner Co. Mailing List Guideline "1. This list is for sharing genealogical and historical information relating to Sumner County, Tennessee. Off topic posts are not permitted." As a reminder this list is focused on Sumner Co. TN History and Genealogy. The information on peddlers is certainly part of Sumner Co. History. If the list really opposing this then e-mail me directly, please. If folks are not interested in a topic line I suggest the following. Read the Subject line, and delete. As long as the list is focused on genealogy and history, and trying the best we can to follow the guidelines sent when you subscribed, then have fun! As I have written so many times before, this is a great list! Over 700 wonderful folks who come together to share and help each other. I will forward a copy of the list guidelines in my next e-mail. Have a great day, Diane Payne Sumner Co. TNGenWeb Project http://wwww.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner/index.html Sumner Co. Mailing List Host

Hello to all, I'm a member of the "under 45" crowd, but I can still remember the days when outhouses were used. Of course, some weren't so fortunate as to have an outhouse. I was a child of the 60's and 70's, and I remember well the house that my grandparents lived in that had no indoor "facility". Their "facility" was a Folgers can. And, for more serious jobs, there was "the henhouse". As kids, we were usually outdoors romping and playing and, instead of running inside, we'd duck into the henhouse. Thanks to Grandmother's tales of encounters with snakes, of robbing the hens' nests and feeling something slick and cool to the touch, I made only the fastest of pitstops. Even though I curse a computer five days a week, I look back on those days with the warmest of affection. "Ma and Pa" lived in "a holler" that was peaceful and serene. We would bed-down on an old sofa that opened up to be big as a single bed. On those starless nights we'd bed-down there. Once the flashlight went off, it didn't matter how wide I opened my eyes, I could see nothing, not even the smallest glimmer of light. Kids these days want Pokeman and Digimon, the more techno- the better. Not for us. I guess kids today would think we were nuts if we suggested some of the games we'd play. We made games of what we saw around us. We three girls would play "house" or "tend-like". We'd pretend-like we were making dinner. We'd set an impressive table full of wild green onions and wild strawberries and anything we could forage from the drying and dead vegetable garden. And, we made the finest mudpies in the county. We'd gather crinoid stems out of the creek gravel and call it "Indian money". We'd pick the clover-flowers and tied them together into chain necklaces. Heck, we'd get at the top of a steep little hill and see who could roll down it the fastest. We'd gather arms full of autumn leaves and see who could throw them the farthest. Ma always let me feed the chickens or go with her to rob the hens' nests. I'd even look on as they skinned a squirrel or rabbit and beg for the fluffy tail. In the fall, I'd sit and watch as they cut apart the hog and set aside the fat. Later, we'd look on as they dragged out the big black iron "kittle" and render up "the hog-lard" over an open fire. We loved trying to catch the baby chicks just so we could pet them. And yes, mother had a sharp little beak. Seems there was always a litter of "huntin' dog" pups to hold and play with. I'll never forget that yelp they'd let loose when they "jumped a rabbit" for my Grandpa. And when the season would open, we'd look forward to a platter full of barbecued rabbit or squirrel. We girls could always be found at our favorite hang-out, the creek that meandered through the property. We'd gather water cress, and wade the creek during the brutal summer sun. Any fall or early winter would see us wandering aimlessly up through the hills behind Grandma's house. Often, we'd come back with a pocket full of hickory nuts or "horse chestnuts" that we'd use to play games. Whenever I think about burning the midnight oil to keep from losing an account or working toward an impossible deadline, I think back to those days and suddenly, life is once again in perfect perspective. Sherry

In a message dated 8/12/01 1:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CBStark@aol.com writes: > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Well said. I agree completely. Fred

In a message dated 08/11/2001 10:35:43 PM Central Daylight Time, hgdonald@leo.infi.net writes: > I haven't heard (read) any complaints > about the discussion of history....including from the List Administrator. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. A list limited to names, dates, and places is about as interesting and entertaining as reading the telephone book. By the same token, a list made up of nothing but pleasant memories would soon grow old. We have the best of two worlds so let it be. Joyce

Hi, I have volumes of information on the Parker clan, and, unfortunately, I have found no one who knows of any painting of Nathaniel Parker or any of his children. I descend of Nathaniel Parker Sr's. youngest son, Robert. I do have a photograph of Robert Parker Sr.'s granddaughter, Martha Parker Perry. I, too, would be interested in photographs of any of the descendants of Nathaniel. Sincerely, Sherry

Here's a possible answer/link to the Bledsoe connection: John M. Taylor was in Captain Abraham Bledsoe's Company, First Regiment of the Tennessee Volunteers and fought in the War of 1812. John served from 10 December 1812 through 9 February 1813. Perhaps he had a deep admiration, respect for Capt. Bledsoe. --Sherry

I am trying to locate anyone else who has Lucy Dean KIRKHAM born 1793 in NC, daughter of James KIRKHAM and Mary Anne WATTS in their database. The children in this family were: Lucy Dean, Thomas, Katherine, Spencer and William. Lucy Dean KIRKHAM married George Washington PEAIRS 24 Sept 1812 in Sumner Co., TN. They had the following children: Nancy Malvina, Janes Nelson, Emmaranda, Margaret Addaline, Rachel, Harriet Jane, Isaac, Keziah Amanda, Jonathan, Joseph and George. Kathleen Burnett

Hey, I didn't mean for all this to happen. It wouldn't happen as a split anyway, it would be just another list. One more to read, that's all. I have recieved countless private emails on what I started, all positive, except one. This is the best list anywhere. Let's all stay here, why would we leave even if another is started. We could stay here and sub. to the other one too. Nothing wrong with that. I recieved an email from Diane today and she seems to be a nice and wonderful lady. If we kind of cool it, and not go overboard with memories, she'll let us share our memories. Put memories in the subject box though. She is not a hard nose. She cares about the list and works hard to help us all. I have had people to ask me to be an admistrator for a new memories list. I might consider it as a co- admistrator, if and only if, there is enough support. "None of have to leave this site". Let's all email Diane and tell her thanks for what she has done. Do it in private though. We love ya Diane. Keep it up. Jim Neill, in Oregon

Have I missed something? I haven't heard (read) any complaints about the discussion of history....including from the List Administrator. Keeping like information in one place is a basic criterion for GOOD information storage and retrieval, i.e. the Stuff of Which Internet is Made. If the lsit were discussing completely off-topic or personal subjects, it would be different, but this list is not so doing. Splitting this list for story tellers would indeed be a mistake, for Diane is one of the most professional listowners on Internet. If someone wants a list, there are a host of them out there for adoption. Helen Barbara Collin wrote: > Hopefully, this will come to pass (and I'll bet June would be just perfect as an administrator) since oral history is such a vital if fleeting genealogical resource. One of the finest history books I ever came across dealt not with names and dates and locations, but with the every day lives of ordinary people -- what they carried in their pockets, prices of common goods, the kinds of tools they used, and so forth. Oral tradition can flesh out the past as nothing else can. > > But although it is a wonderful resource, it's only one of many, and however closely related, "genealogy" and "family history" really are two separate topics. By splitting the messages up, we could all benefit fully from both of them. > > One thing that will help when Sumner County Memories becomes a reality is the careful use of the email subject line. It makes it so much easier and productive in an archived message search if you type in "Peddlers" and there they all are, rolling gloriously out before you. ("Looking for Family" always tickles me as the subject line on a query post at a genealogy site....) > > So, more power to you, message list makers! You are sorely needed. > > Cordially, > Barbara Collin

I would like to find someone who has any old pictures of the family lines of McGlothlin, Bracken, Boyle, House, Denning. I would love to have any that could be scanned or I would gladly pay for copies and postage. I especially would like pictures of Joseph and Isaac McGlothlin, Henry House, James Boyle. It is difficult to find old pictures of lost relatives. Hopefully there will be some relation out there who has some tucked away in boxes or albums. Thank you.

Would like to correspond to anyone who knows anything about the family of Lucinda "Delia" Lee who married Anderson Hammond. Both are buried in Neal Cemetery in Sumner County. They had children Jewel and Mamie and possibly one other child. Lucinda "Delia" was a niece to my great-great grandfather. Would really like to talk to someone in this line!

Sorry My William B Reeves was born in 1793 in Tenn then went to La. in 1809 all of his children were born there before 1840. Sharon

I know that this can't be the William I am looking for, but I was hoping it might be his father.

I really don't have much. I know that he married an Elizabeth L. Alexander about 1858. He was in the 26th NC Inf. He was born around 1837. He was living in Alleghany County North Carolina during the 1870 census.

I agree the new list shouldn't be limited to Sumner County but to Genealogy in general. How about Ancestrial Memories or something like that. Ro

What information do you have on your William B Reeves?I cant tell if we are talking about the same one if you dont give me something to go on.

Has anyone heard of the Blackmore home owned by James Blackmore and wife, Lola in the late 1800's and early 1900's? I have found some wonderful pictures of this home and the people who lived there.

I have been looking for information on a William B. Reeves. I am currently at a dead end. This just might be who I am looking for. Cathy

Hopefully, this will come to pass (and I'll bet June would be just perfect as an administrator) since oral history is such a vital if fleeting genealogical resource. One of the finest history books I ever came across dealt not with names and dates and locations, but with the every day lives of ordinary people -- what they carried in their pockets, prices of common goods, the kinds of tools they used, and so forth. Oral tradition can flesh out the past as nothing else can. But although it is a wonderful resource, it's only one of many, and however closely related, "genealogy" and "family history" really are two separate topics. By splitting the messages up, we could all benefit fully from both of them. One thing that will help when Sumner County Memories becomes a reality is the careful use of the email subject line. It makes it so much easier and productive in an archived message search if you type in "Peddlers" and there they all are, rolling gloriously out before you. ("Looking for Family" always tickles me as the subject line on a query post at a genealogy site....) So, more power to you, message list makers! You are sorely needed. Cordially, Barbara Collin